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A17973 An examination of those things wherein the author of the late Appeale holdeth the doctrines of the Pelagians and Arminians, to be the doctrines of the Church of England written by George Carleton ... Carleton, George, 1559-1628. 1626 (1626) STC 4633; ESTC S1219 68,302 126

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