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A42744 The history of the Athenian Society for the resolving all nice and curious questions / by a gentleman who got secret intelligence of thir whole proceedings ; to which are prefixed several poems, written by Mr. Tate, Mr. Motteux, Mr. Richardson, and others. Gildon, Charles, 1665-1724.; R. L. 1691 (1691) Wing G730; ESTC R35698 78,195 42

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those ends of the Quaerist's Ordination viz the manifestation of his Wisdom Power Iustice c. in raising Man after his Fall when penitent and punishing him when finally impenitent Besides this Position of the necessity of Sin takes away all Sin and consequently makes the Supposition it self of God's ordaining Sin ridiculous and impossible Again If Sin were necessary 't is clear from what has been said there could be no eternal Punishment but 't is evident from the Word of Go●… that there is eternal Punishment there●…ore c. 〈◊〉 the Tenth Mercury of the Second Volume to which the Quaerist sending some Objections not Answers in the fifth Supplement the same Member of this Society has delivered and confuted them with that evident and convincing Demonstration that nothing in Nature can be more fine The whole Dispute is too long to be here inserted and too good to be cramp'd into an imperfect Abridgement for the Soul of the Argument spreads it self through every line and is all in all and all in every part so that would do the Author of that incomparable piece whom I honour a great deal of Injustice by giving so ill a Representation of his Performance And I am sensible I shall scarce merit Pardon of him for what I have attempted in this kind above therefore I must desire the Reader not to make a Judgment of the force of this Authors Argument by what I have produced since ●… only aimed to give such a View of them as might invite those that should chance to see this rough Draught to consult the Originial where they will find them in their Life and Perfection And I am pretty confident that what I have inserted contains so much of its primitive Beauty as to provoke an Ingenious C●…oiosity to pursue the end I proposed But fa●…her to enflame his Desi●…e I shall give ●…ome of those profound and invincible Reasons that Discourse I mentioned in the fifth Supplement contains Some men are of opinion that there is no Science worth studying or at least satisfactory but the Mathematics because they carry such a visible demonstration along with them in all their parts that the Mind rests satisfied in the Truth and C●…rtainty of the Operation it has employed itself about I will agree with them that there is no greater or more 〈◊〉 Inducements to read or study than Evidence and high probability of arriving at Truth else we wander in the dark and spend our time in the pursuit of Shadows and therefore I must recommend this Dispute to the perusal of every one that loves to converse with Demonstration in Argument since there is nothing in the Mathematical Arts so self evident as this out of many If Necessity excuses external Punishments for that is the aim of the Proponents A●…guments what did Christ dye for what Iustice did he satisfie what Benefits did he obtain not the preserving us from eternal Death for the Quaerist says there 's no such thing Necessity takes it away Not saving us from temporal Death for that we all suffer Not from other temporal Punishments for he owns the Good have them rather more than others Is he a Saviour to save us from nothing It can't be from our Sins because they are necessitated nor from the Devil because God has delivered us up to him that he may compel us to Sin nor to bring us to Heaven since according to him all must go thither nay Judas and all nay there 's no other place for them to go to and therefore they can't miss it And how I would fain know does this manifest God's Wisdom in the death of his SON when at this rate it undeniably follows that he died for nothing at all Tho this be enough to shew that what I have said is not without just cause yet I cannot but add another from the same Discourse it containing so much of Wit as well as Solidity and Reason If I conclude says the Quaerist Mans ways to be not of himself whereby I deny Free-will I can then the more easily forgive nay love the worst of my Enemies But replies the incomparable Author he might as well talk of a couple of Clocks loving and forgiving one another they are all wound up and must necessarily strike on without any Choice of their own they can neither hate nor 〈◊〉 according to his Notion but are determine●… ●…or necessitated to do either Does not the Doctrin of Free-will persists the Quaerist set men together by the Ears Nay P●…rsecution it self has a share in it by perswading us that Mens ways are in themselves which makes it the more difficult to pardon them This is so ridiculous an Argument especially for him to advance that holds the necessity of all our Actions that the Author with a great deal of Justice presses it close to him in the most sensible part of men of his Principle I mean his temporal Interest Why there 's no help for 't replies this Author so the World will still believe and many a poor Pickpocket must suffer for 't whose Hand Fate shuffled into his Neighbor's Purse and Neck in the Noose before he was aware of it nay so necessarily so irresistably that it is the highes●… Folly in the World for him to seek to avoid it ●…ever would the Quaerist himself but live up to this noble Principle he would undoubtedly have all the Shop lifts in Town his Customers when at home and all the Gentlemen of the Road his Attendants when abroad for he could not in Conscience prosecute them and have them hang'd for robbing him which they could no more avoid than he being rob'd But it seems he 's yet to learn that there is Charity even in Justice and that the Divine Being himself as one of the Fathers says is as merciful in building a Hell as in framing a Heaven Here I cannot omit the Millenium Volume the Fourth Num. 6. tho I can say no more of it but that it was done by the same Hand and by consequence the Spirit and Life which abounds in this I have touched upon will be found in that Question and this I can assure the Reader he will find no small Pleasure in the perusal of it there is such a clearness of Thought and Expression as well as greatness of Learning and Reason for he proves it from many places of Scripture as well as the Testimony of the most ancient of the Fathers that is of the first and second Century as Papias Iustin Martyr Polycarp Clemens and afterward Iraeneus Lactantius Tertullian Methodius and still lower St. Cyprian Nepos Apollinarius Not that the words of all these Fathers are quoted in the Mercury which would take up a whole Volume as the Author observes but he affirms them to be of the same Opinion as Iustin Martyr and Methodius whose words he inserts I would also recommend those that are curious in Controversial Divinity to peruse what another Member of this Society has performed