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A85394 Hagiomastix, or The scourge of the saints displayed in his colours of ignorance & blood: or, a vindication of some printed queries published some moneths since by authority, in way of answer to certaine anti-papers of syllogismes, entituled a Vindication of a printed paper, &c. ... / By John Goodwin, pastor of a Church of Christ in Colemanstreet. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1647 (1647) Wing G1169; Thomason E374_1; ESTC R201334; ESTC R201335 139,798 168

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how_o passionate_a the_o anti-querists_a be_v against_o the_o second_o quere_z and_o wherefore_o sect_n 30._o 25._o whether_o all_o the_o opinion_n sentence_v by_o the_o ordinance_n be_v the_o know_a principle_n of_o christianity_n sect_n 33._o 26._o whether_o the_o law_n of_o god_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o command_v false_a prophet_n blasphemer_n idolater_n to_o be_v put_v to_o death_n be_v in_o force_n under_o the_o new_a sect_n 34_o 35_o 36_o 37._o 27._o whether_o our_o saviour_n reprove_v either_o the_o jewish_a church_n or_o state_n for_o tolerate_v error_n and_o sect_n among_o they_o sect_n 41._o 28._o whether_o way_n of_o violence_n and_o blood_n for_o the_o support_n of_o true_a religion_n be_v according_a to_o the_o light_n and_o law_n of_o nature_n sect_n 43._o 29._o how_o the_o counter_a querist_n prove_v that_o luther_n maintain_v no_o error_n about_o freewill_n sect_n 52._o and_o whether_o consubstantiation_n be_v not_o as_o gross_a yea_o and_o as_o dangerous_a a_o error_n as_o some_o threaten_v with_o death_n by_o the_o ordinance_n sect_n 53._o 30._o whether_o or_o what_o clear_n or_o settle_v of_o truth_n there_o be_v among_o we_o more_o than_o in_o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o reformation_n sect_n 54._o 31._o whether_o the_o open_a and_o public_a profession_n of_o error_n be_v more_o or_o less_o pernicious_a than_o the_o practice_n of_o sin_n in_o a_o like_a kind_n and_o degree_n sect_n 57_o 58_o 59_o 32._o whether_o any_o great_a difference_n between_o imprisonment_n for_o life_n and_o death_n sect_n 59_o 33._o in_o what_o sense_n only_o it_o be_v true_a that_o they_o who_o hold_v damnable_a heresy_n have_v no_o true_a grace_n etc._n etc._n sect_n 64._o 34._o whether_o the_o parable_n of_o the_o tare_n be_v mean_v only_o of_o heretic_n and_o false_a teacher_n sect_n 69._o 35._o whether_o and_o how_o the_o ordinance_n be_v bend_v against_o the_o face_n of_o many_o that_o be_v conscientious_a sect_n 75._o 36._o whether_o they_o be_v always_o instrument_n of_o evil_a who_o publish_v doctrine_n in_o any_o sense_n hurtful_a to_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n and_o state_n sect_n 76_o 77._o 37._o whether_o zeal_n or_o lukewarmnesse_n the_o more_o likely_a cause_n of_o the_o bishop_n cast_v out_o sect_n 79._o 38._o what_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o parliament_n can_v and_o their_o justice_n will_v do_v for_o the_o undo_n of_o all_o the_o ordinance_n intend_v to_o do_v sect._n 81._o 39_o whether_o the_o anti-querists_a sufficient_o prove_v the_o moral_a law_n in_o the_o ten_o commandment_n to_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o a_o christian_n life_n and_o whether_o the_o christian_a sabbaoth_v be_v include_v in_o the_o general_a scope_n of_o the_o four_o commandment_n sect._n 82._o 83._o 40._o whether_o the_o anti-querists_a know_v what_o they_o mean_v by_o arminian_n freewill_n sect._n 84._o 85._o 86._o 41._o whether_o their_o description_n of_o blasphemy_n and_o impugn_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v competent_a sect._n 87._o 42._o whether_o and_o how_o far_o they_o concur_v with_o the_o querist_n about_o the_o necessity_n of_o reason_n to_o direct_v or_o lead_v their_o faith_n sect._n 89._o 90._o 91._o 43._o whether_o any_o of_o the_o querist_n friend_n be_v to_o be_v thank_v for_o that_o strong_a opposition_n which_o be_v between_o the_o two_o government_n by_o presbytery_n the_o one_o establish_v by_o the_o parliament_n the_o other_o importune_o desire_v by_o the_o minister_n sect._n 93._o 94._o 95._o 44._o whether_o the_o anti-querists_a have_v sufficient_o justify_v the_o ordinance_n about_o the_o word_n presumptuous_o sect._n 96._o 97._o 45._o whether_o they_o do_v not_o grant_v the_o ordinance_n to_o be_v neither_o christian_n nor_o reasonable_a in_o the_o punishment_n of_o blasphemy_n there_o enjoin_v sect._n 99_o 46._o whether_o the_o duty_n of_o magistracy_n rise_v and_o fall_v be_v more_o or_o few_o according_a to_o the_o different_a qualification_n of_o the_o magistrate_n themselves_o sect._n 99_o 105._o 47._o whether_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o teach_v child_n or_o other_o to_o pray_v who_o we_o can_v reasonable_o judge_v capable_a of_o our_o instruction_n in_o this_o kind_n sect._n 102._o 48._o the_o two_o mountain_n from_o the_o top_n whereof_o the_o fair_a prospect_n of_o high-presbyterie_n in_o her_o exaltation_n may_v be_v take_v sect._n 104._o 49._o whether_o person_n engage_v be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o meet_a to_o be_v judge_n sect._n 105._o 50._o whether_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o there_o be_v not_o any_o one_o point_n in_o religion_n but_o have_v be_v controvert_v sect._n 106._o 51._o what_o be_v the_o true_a ground_n of_o gangrena_n satisfaction_n about_o the_o truth_n of_o her_o story_n sect._n 97._o 52._o whether_o god_n make_v any_o controvert_v point_n in_o religion_n especial_o between_o priest_n and_o priest_n etc._n etc._n matter_n of_o death_n or_o imprisonment_n under_o the_o law_n sect._n 106._o 107._o 108._o 53._o in_o what_o sense_n the_o civil_a magistrate_n be_v say_v to_o be_v custos_fw-la utriusque_fw-la tabulae_fw-la sect._n 109._o text_n of_o scripture_n unto_o which_o some_o light_n be_v give_v either_o in_o the_o epistle_n or_o discourse_v itself_o 1._o cor_fw-la 15._o 24_o 25._o then_o come_v the_o end_n when_o he_o shall_v have_v deliver_v up_o the_o kingdom_n to_o god_n even_o the_o father_n when_o he_o shall_v have_v put_v down_o all_o rule_n and_o all_o authority_n and_o power_n for_o he_o must_v reign_v till_o he_o have_v put_v all_o enemy_n under_o his_o foot_n epist_n sect._n 9_o 1_o cor._n 15._o 28._o and_o when_o all_o thing_n shall_v be_v subdue_v unto_o he_o then_o shall_v the_o son_n also_o himself_o be_v subject_a unto_o he_o that_o put_v all_o thing_n under_o he_o that_o god_n may_v be_v all_o in_o all_o ep._n sect._n 2._o rev._n 21._o 22._o 23._o and_o i_o see_v no_o temple_n therein_o for_o the_o lord_n god_n almighty_a and_o the_o lamb_n be_v the_o temple_n of_o it_o and_o this_o city_n have_v no_o need_n of_o the_o sun_n or_o of_o the_o moon_n to_o shine_v in_o it_o for_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n do_v light_v it_o and_o the_o lamb_n be_v the_o light_n of_o it_o ep._n sect._n 9_o dan._n 12._o 4._o many_o shall_v run_v to_o and_o fro_o and_o knowledge_n shall_v be_v increase_v epist_n sect._n 18._o job_n 1._o 9_o do_v job_n serve_v god_n for_o nought_o disc_n sect._n 3_o rom._n 5._o 10._o for_o if_o when_o we_o be_v enemy_n we_o be_v reconcile_v unto_o god_n by_o the_o death_n of_o his_o son_n much_o more_o be_v reconcile_v we_o shall_v be_v save_v by_o his_o life_n sect._n 13._o matth._n 23._o 8._o but_o be_v not_o you_o call_v rabbi_n sect._n 31._o deut._n 13._o 5._o and_o that_o prophet_n or_o that_o dreamer_n of_o dream_n shall_v be_v put_v to_o death_n etc._n etc._n sect._n 34._o 35._o 36._o etc._n etc._n levit._fw-la 24._o 16._o and_o he_o that_o blaspheme_v the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n he_o shall_v sure_o be_v put_v to_o death_n sect._n 36._o 35._o etc._n etc._n 1_o cor._n 10._o 11._o now_o all_o these_o thing_n happen_v unto_o they_o for_o ensample_n or_o tip_n sect._n 35._o deut._n 4._o 2._o you_o shall_v not_o add_v unto_o the_o word_n which_o i_o command_v you_o neither_o shall_v you_o diminish_v aught_o from_o it_o etc._n etc._n sect._n 37._o 2_o cor._n 10._o 4._o for_o the_o weapon_n of_o our_o warfare_n be_v not_o carnal_a but_o mighty_a through_o god_n to_o the_o pull_v down_o of_o strong_a hold_n sect._n 44._o rom._n 13._o 4._o for_o he_o be_v the_o minister_n of_o god_n a_o revenger_n to_o execute_v wrath_n upon_o he_o that_o do_v evil_a sect._n 45._o 46._o 47._o etc._n etc._n deut._n 12._o 48._o no_o uncircumcised_a person_n shall_v eat_v thereof_o sect._n 48._o 2_o thess_n 3._o 10._o this_o we_o command_v you_o that_o if_o any_o will_v not_o work_v neither_o shall_v he_o eat_v sect._n 48._o
they_o be_v conceive_v be_v of_o doubtful_a interpretation_n unto_o those_o who_o be_v so_o 10._o sect._n 10._o deep_o concern_v in_o they_o law_n and_o statute_n wherein_o the_o precious_a life_n and_o liberty_n of_o man_n be_v concern_v ought_v not_o to_o be_v like_o aristotle_n acroamatiques_n concern_v which_o he_o say_v when_o he_o have_v publish_v they_o edidi_fw-la &_o non_fw-la edidi_fw-la i._o i_o have_v publish_v they_o and_o i_o have_v not_o publish_v they_o meaning_n that_o as_o he_o have_v set_v they_o forth_o few_o be_v able_a to_o understand_v they_o but_o to_o be_v plain_a and_o transparent_a in_o their_o sense_n and_o meaning_n that_o even_o person_n of_o mean_a capacity_n may_v without_o a_o interpreter_n see_v to_o the_o bottom_n of_o they_o or_o three_o and_o last_o if_o by_o wicked_o in_o their_o distinction_n they_o mean_v malicious_o which_o the_o word_n seem_v most_o proper_o to_o import_v i_o desire_v to_o know_v of_o they_o who_o they_o will_v constitute_v or_o make_v judge_n of_o this_o inward_a and_o soule-misdemeanour_n or_o what_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d what_o symptom_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o sign_n they_o will_v authorize_v as_o infallible_o demonstrative_a of_o this_o malignity_n for_o it_o be_v no_o way_n christian_n or_o equal_a that_o the_o saint_n or_o indeed_o any_o other_o sort_n of_o man_n shall_v be_v deprive_v of_o their_o life_n or_o precious_a liberty_n upon_o what_o interpretation_n of_o the_o law_n either_o the_o jury_n or_o the_o judge_n shall_v please_v to_o make_v but_o the_o case_n and_o condition_n of_o the_o saint_n will_v be_v most_o deplorable_a upon_o such_o term_n as_o these_o in_o as_o much_o as_o there_o be_v very_o few_o either_o juries_n or_o judge_n but_o be_v stranger_n to_o the_o work_n of_o grace_n inward_o hate_v this_o generation_n of_o man_n according_a to_o that_o with_o many_o the_o like_a say_v of_o the_o scripture_n marvel_v not_o my_o brethren_n if_o the_o world_n hate_v 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be_v in_o the_o world_n 3._o world_n page_n 3._o certain_o these_o gentleman_n logic_n stand_v at_o their_o left_a hand_n in_o stead_n of_o their_o right_n when_o they_o advance_v such_o a_o consequence_n or_o say_v as_o this_o do_v he_o that_o insinuate_v it_o as_o a_o thing_n unlawful_a to_o put_v a_o heathen_a to_o death_n for_o assert_v the_o principle_n of_o his_o false_a religion_n cast_v a_o reproach_n upon_o the_o justice_n which_o shall_v punish_v he_o with_o death_n for_o murder_n rebellion_n or_o insurrection_n or_o do_v he_o that_o insinuate_v it_o as_o a_o thing_n unworthy_a a_o christian_a magistrate_n or_o judge_n to_o put_v a_o man_n to_o death_n for_o profess_v or_o affirm_v that_o for_o truth_n which_o he_o very_o believe_v to_o be_v so_o though_o indeed_o it_o be_v false_a cast_v a_o reproach_n upon_o such_o magistrate_n or_o their_o punitive_a justice_n who_o shall_v punish_v murder_n perjury_n incest_n or_o any_o the_o like_a sin_n commit_v against_o the_o light_n 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power_n every_o whit_n as_o bountiful_o as_o well_o for_o the_o comfort_n and_o preservation_n of_o man_n life_n whilst_o they_o 14._o sect._n 14._o stand_v by_o they_o as_o for_o the_o restore_n or_o recall_v of_o they_o when_o they_o be_v depart_v 10._o depart_v act._n 9_o 40._o act._n 20._o 9_o 10._o yea_o the_o scripture_n teach_v we_o to_o look_v upon_o the_o bless_a condition_n of_o christ_n glorify_v as_o a_o more_o hopeful_a ground_n of_o obtain_v grace_n and_o favour_n from_o he_o in_o every_o kind_n than_o his_o be_v in_o the_o form_n of_o a_o servant_n be_v for_o if_o when_o we_o be_v enemy_n say_v the_o apostle_n we_o be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n by_o the_o death_n of_o his_o son_n much_o more_o be_v reconcile_v we_o shall_v be_v save_v by_o his_o life_n 10._o life_n rom._n 5._o 10._o four_o the_o say_a answer_n blush_v also_o with_o the_o red_a of_o this_o inference_n or_o supposal_n viz._n that_o because_o that_o negative_a expression_n of_o christ_n mention_v that_o he_o 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dissimulation_n and_o christ_n himself_o threaten_v destruction_n to_o jerusalem_n for_o reject_v he_o their_o messiah_n then_o be_v the_o destroy_n of_o man_n life_n by_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n for_o contradict_v the_o most_o fundamental_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n agreeable_a to_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n do_v the_o antecedent_n and_o consequent_a in_o this_o hypotheticall_a proposition_n agree_v any_o whit_n better_o than_o harp_n and_o harrow_n be_v the_o contradict_v of_o what_o a_o man_n know_v no_o sufficient_a ground_n or_o reason_n why_o he_o shall_v judge_v or_o think_v it_o to_o be_v a_o truth_n nor_o with_o his_o best_a endeavour_n be_v able_a so_o to_o judge_v of_o it_o which_o according_a to_o the_o common_a tenet_n of_o these_o man_n themselves_o be_v the_o case_n of_o all_o unregenerate_a man_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o fundamental_a doctrine_n of_o christ_n a_o sin_n of_o the_o like_a nature_n or_o equal_o punishable_a with_o the_o sin_n of_o sacrilegious_a 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invest_v as_o well_o with_o secular_a as_o 38._o a_o luk._n 22._o 38._o ecclesiastic_a power_n or_o do_v they_o conceive_v that_o smite_v with_o death_n be_v a_o ecclesiastic_a or_o church_n censure_n or_o suppose_v it_o be_v have_v peter_n power_n to_o inflict_v it_o by_o his_o word_n do_v god_n impart_v his_o omnipotency_n unto_o he_o concern_v ananias_n it_o be_v indeed_o relate_v how_o peter_n according_a to_o the_o duty_n of_o his_o place_n admonish_v he_o of_o his_o sin_n and_o that_o ananias_n upon_o hear_v the_o admonition_n or_o reproof_n give_v up_o the_o ghost_n 5._o ghost_n act._n 5._o 5._o or_o die_v but_o it_o be_v not_o where_o say_v nor_o be_v it_o any_o way_n 14._o sect._n 14._o probable_a that_o peter_n intend_v any_o such_o severe_a execution_n in_o his_o admonition_n and_o consequent_o it_o can_v be_v say_v that_o he_o strike_v he_o dead_a with_o his_o word_n except_o only_o in_o such_o a_o sense_n as_o a_o man_n may_v be_v say_v to_o kill_v his_o brother_n who_o do_v it_o at_o unaware_o and_o if_o a_o magistrate_n shall_v thus_o slay_v with_o death_n a_o heretic_n or_o opposer_n of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n viz._n at_o unaware_o i_o shall_v do_v my_o utmost_a to_o excuse_v he_o and_o the_o rather_o if_o he_o shall_v do_v it_o only_o by_o admonish_v or_o reprove_v he_o for_o his_o error_n concern_v the_o death_n of_o sapphira_n it_o be_v say_v indeed_o that_o peter_n foretell_v it_o before_o it_o be_v inflict_v behold_v say_v he_o unto_o she_o the_o foot_n of_o those_o which_o have_v bury_v thy_o husband_n be_v at_o the_o door_n and_o shall_v carry_v thou_o out_o but_o from_o these_o word_n it_o can_v be_v conclude_v that_o peter_n strike_v sapphira_n dead_a with_o his_o word_n except_o only_o in_o such_o a_o sense_n as_o the_o faithful_a minister_n of_o this_o land_n may_v be_v say_v
to_o have_v strike_v it_o with_o all_o those_o heavy_a judgement_n or_o plague_n that_o have_v fall_v upon_o it_o in_o as_o much_o as_o they_o foretell_v and_o preadmonish_v the_o nation_n of_o they_o before_o they_o come_v the_o great_a difference_n be_v that_o peter_n have_v his_o prediction_n of_o sapphira_n death_n by_o a_o more_o immediate_a revelation_n from_o god_n the_o minister_n have_v their_o prediction_n of_o the_o judgement_n execute_v upon_o this_o nation_n by_o the_o mediation_n of_o the_o scripture_n which_o hold_v forth_o ground_n for_o such_o prediction_n if_o magistrate_n be_v able_a upon_o substantial_a ground_n to_o foreshow_v what_o judgement_n will_v fall_v upon_o those_o that_o shall_v oppose_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n in_o case_n these_o judgement_n shall_v fall_v upon_o they_o according_o without_o the_o magistrate_n interposall_n for_o their_o procurement_n i_o shall_v free_o allow_v they_o this_o imitation_n of_o peteter_n in_o strike_v ananias_n and_o sapphira_n dead_a with_o his_o word_n for_o i_o much_o doubt_n whether_o it_o have_v be_v lawful_a for_o peter_n have_v prophesy_v of_o sapphira_n death_n to_o have_v slay_v she_o with_o a_o sword_n for_o the_o vindication_n of_o his_o prophecy_n but_o sure_o these_o man_n be_v not_o aware_a of_o their_o friend_n if_o of_o themselves_o when_o they_o plead_v the_o example_n of_o peter_n smite_v ananias_n and_o sapphira_n with_o death_n for_o dissimulation_n to_o strengthen_v the_o hand_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o punish_v offender_n according_o for_o i_o very_o believe_v be_v it_o his_o duty_n and_o he_o conscientious_a in_o the_o performance_n of_o it_o to_o smite_v hypocrisy_n and_o dissimulation_n with_o the_o sword_n that_o great_a and_o numerous_a party_n which_o the_o anti-querists_a have_v for_o the_o present_a in_o the_o land_n will_v soon_o be_v reduce_v to_o the_o shake_n of_o a_o olive_n tree_n and_o to_o the_o glean_v of_o grape_n after_o the_o vontage_n in_o the_o mean_a while_o 1●_n sect._n 1●_n we_o clear_o see_v with_o what_o rot_a timber_n the_o house_n of_o the_o lord_n so_o call_v be_v now_o build_v by_o the_o great_a architect_n of_o it_o we_o have_v now_o do_v with_o the_o answer_n of_o our_o syllogist_n to_o their_o first_o argument_n and_o have_v find_v the_o argument_n laugh_v the_o answer_n in_o the_o face_n to_o scorn_v proceed_v we_o in_o the_o next_o place_n to_o the_o examination_n of_o their_o answer_n 15._o sect._n 15._o give_v to_o their_o second_o syllogism_n which_o by_o the_o strength_n of_o their_o imagination_n and_o logic_n together_o they_o hale_v and_o pull_v out_o of_o my_o second_o querie_n that_o unhappy_a querie_n of_o classic_a indignation_n at_o which_o so_o many_o of_o this_o way_n have_v make_v shipwreck_n of_o their_o patience_n and_o manlike_o ingenuity_n discover_v themselves_o not_o to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 21._o 〈◊〉_d jam._n 5._o 21._o subject_n to_o like_a passion_n with_o other_o man_n which_o be_v eliiah_n infirmity_n but_o to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o subject_n to_o passion_n appropriate_v to_o themselves_o of_o a_o worse_o and_o more_o deplorable_a nature_n than_o other_o man_n but_o let_v we_o hear_v how_o they_o answer_v this_o argument_n of_o their_o own_o this_o they_o attempt_v to_o do_v first_o by_o reason_n second_o by_o passion_n for_o the_o first_o this_o answer_n or_o rather_o this_o part_n of_o their_o answer_n stand_v upon_o two_o leg_n with_o much_o ado_n the_o first_o be_v this_o that_o they_o who_o after_o admonition_n maintain_v damnable_a heresy_n be_v no_o long_o to_o be_v esteem_v brethren_n but_o enemy_n to_o christ_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o be_v to_o be_v according_o deal_v with_o 4._o with_o page_n 4._o this_o ground_n be_v true_a but_o as_o true_a it_o be_v that_o it_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o first_o there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o any_o such_o thing_n as_o damnable_a heresy_n in_o the_o argument_n which_o they_o propose_v to_o answer_v but_o only_o of_o such_o opinion_n which_o for_o aught_o the_o inflicter_n of_o death_n know_v may_v be_v the_o sacred_a truth_n of_o christ_n if_o they_o will_v grant_v that_o such_o opinion_n may_v be_v damnable_a heresy_n which_o for_o aught_o the_o man_n they_o speak_v of_o know_v may_v be_v sacred_a truth_n of_o christ_n i_o grant_v both_o the_o truth_n and_o pertinencie_n of_o the_o supposition_n or_o ground_n but_o if_o they_o grant_v it_o it_o undo_v they_o in_o all_o they_o further_o have_v to_o say_v either_o in_o way_n of_o reason_n or_o of_o passion_n in_o this_o answer_n as_o will_v appear_v present_o and_o second_o whereas_o they_o say_v that_o such_o who_o after_o admonition_n shall_v maintain_v damnable_a heresy_n etc._n etc._n be_v to_o be_v deal_v with_o all_o according_o i._n either_o as_o god_n have_v command_v or_o as_o otherwise_o be_v reasonable_a in_o such_o case_n i_o know_v no_o man_n 〈…〉_o in_o this_o gainsay_v they_o but_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o inflict_v of_o the_o heavy_a censure_n of_o death_n upon_o man_n these_o be_v the_o term_n of_o the_o syllogism_n which_o they_o pretend_v to_o answer_v 16._o sect._n 16._o be_v these_o equipollent_a expression_n in_o their_o logic_n to_o deal_v with_o a_o offender_n according_a to_o his_o offence_n and_o to_o inflict_v the_o heavy_a censure_n of_o death_n upon_o he_o sure_o these_o man_n be_v stoic_n and_o hold_v the_o paradox_n omnia_fw-la peccata_fw-la esse_fw-la aequalia_fw-la i._n that_o all_o sin_n be_v equal_a the_o question_n between_o they_o and_o their_o syllogism_n be_v not_o whether_o they_o who_o maintain_v damnable_a heresy_n after_o admonition_n be_v to_o be_v deal_v with_o according_o no_o nor_o yet_o whether_o such_o be_v to_o be_v punish_v with_o death_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o christ_n for_o man_n to_o inflict_v the_o censure_n of_o death_n upon_o man_n for_o hold_v forth_o such_o opinion_n which_o for_o ●ught_v they_o know_v may_v be_v the_o sacred_a truth_n of_o christ_n but_o to_o this_o question_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quidem_fw-la be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o all_o their_o answer_n neither_o in_o the_o more_o lightsome_a part_n of_o it_o which_o shall_v have_v be_v reason_n have_v it_o prove_v nor_o yet_o in_o the_o dark_a of_o it_o which_o be_v passion_n without_o dispute_n the_o second_o leg_n make_v of_o reason_n such_o as_o it_o be_v upon_o which_o this_o answer_n 16._o sect._n 16._o stand_v in_o the_o rational_a part_n of_o it_o be_v this_o that_o the_o opinion_n threaten_v with_o death_n in_o the_o ordinance_n the_o maker_n of_o the_o ordinance_n do_v certain●y_o know_v to_o be_v damnable_a heresy_n this_o they_o prove_v by_o this_o reason_n because_o they_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o manifest_a word_n of_o god_n and_o overthrow_v the_o very_a foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n but_o by_o the_o way_n what_o if_o the_o maker_n of_o the_o ordinance_n which_o i_o and_o many_o more_o suppose_v to_o be_v man_n of_o clergie-order_n rather_o than_o person_n of_o any_o other_o interest_n or_o capacity_n have_v that_o certainty_n of_o knowledge_n which_o be_v here_o with_o so_o much_o confidence_n assert_v to_o they_o though_o this_o i_o confess_v be_v it_o grant_v will_v be_v somewhat_o to_o the_o syllogism_n though_o not_o much_o neither_o yet_o be_v it_o nothing_o at_o all_o to_o the_o querie_n from_o whence_o the_o syllogism_n pretend_v legitimacie_n of_o descent_n for_o certain_a i_o be_o that_o the_o querie_n deny_v it_o not_o if_o it_o be_v reply_v yea_o but_o it_o intimate_v a_o denial_n of_o i●_n i_o demand_v upon_o what_o ground_n be_v this_o supposition_n build_v or_o what_o reason_n be_v there_o to_o charge_v the_o querie_n with_o such_o a_o intimation_n if_o it_o be_v answer_v because_o it_o be_v frame_v upon_o occasion_n of_o the_o ordinance_n and_o own_v relation_n to_o it_o and_o therefore_o except_o some_o such_o supposition_n as_o this_o be_v virtual_o contain_v in_o it_o viz._n that_o the_o maker_n of_o the_o ordinance_n do_v not_o certain_o know_v the_o opinion_n threaten_v therein_o with_o death_n to_o be_v damnable_a heresy_n the_o querie_n be_v altogether_o eccentrical_a and_o irrelative_a to_o the_o point_n to_o which_o it_o pretend_v i_o answer_v that_o this_o be_v a_o most_o simple_a and_o unclerk-like_a allegation_n and_o no_o way_n demonstrative_a 17._o sect._n 17._o for_o first_o what_o though_o the_o querie_n be_v frame_v upon_o occasion_n of_o the_o 17._o sect._n 17._o ordinance_n yet_o be_v it_o not_o necessary_a that_o it_o shall_v speak_v to_o or_o of_o any_o of_o the_o particular_n contain_v in_o the_o ordinance_n when_o a_o man_n be_v below_o intend_v to_o go_v up_o into_o a_o chamber_n or_o upper_a room_n he_o do_v not_o set_v his_o first_o nor_o second_o nor_o three_o step_n into_o the_o
truth_n of_o this_o doctrine_n yea_o and_o be_o ready_a god_n assist_v to_o die_v for_o it_o that_o god_n be_v one_o in_o three_o person_n yet_o i_o know_v some_o who_o deny_v it_o who_o notwithstanding_o this_o denial_n i_o know_v also_o in_o part_n by_o my_o own_o experience_n and_o acquaintance_n but_o more_o full_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o other_o worthy_a credit_n in_o as_o great_a a_o matter_n as_o this_o to_o be_v of_o exemplary_a life_n fruitful_a in_o good_a work_n holy_a heavenly_a christian_a in_o all_o their_o conversation_n as_o far_o as_o man_n be_v able_a to_o judge_v or_o discern_v shall_v we_o say_v that_o such_o man_n as_o these_o hold_v not_o the_o foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n but_o it_o be_v none_o of_o least_o or_o low_a of_o our_o classic_a intrusion_n to_o umpire_n among_o the_o star_n i_o mean_v the_o doctrine_n of_o christian_a religion_n and_o to_o determine_v positive_o and_o above_o all_o possibility_n of_o mistake_n which_o be_v of_o the_o first_o which_o of_o the_o second_o which_o of_o the_o three_o magnitude_n 28._o sect._n 28._o and_o with_o all_o to_o call_v they_o all_o by_o their_o name_n as_o if_o they_o know_v they_o as_o exact_o as_o he_o that_o make_v they_o beside_o when_o the_o ordinance_n sentence_v a_o deny_v of_o the_o scripture_n 28._o sect._n 28._o to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n with_o death_n i_o desire_v to_o know_v whether_o by_o the_o scripture_n it_o mean_v the_o english_a scripture_n or_o that_o book_n or_o rather_o volume_n of_o book_n call_v the_o bible_n translate_v as_o be_v say_v and_o as_o i_o believe_v out_o of_o the_o original_n hebrew_n and_o greek_a copy_n into_o the_o english_a tongue_n or_o these_o original_a or_o greek_a copy_n themselves_o or_o my_o three_o thing_n real_o differ_v from_o either_o of_o these_o i_o suppose_v it_o be_v no_o foundation_n of_o christian_a religion_n to_o believe_v that_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o first_o sense_n be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n these_o rabbi_n themselves_o do_v not_o hold_v it_o for_o a_o article_n of_o their_o faith_n that_o god_n speak_v to_o his_o prophet_n or_o apostle_n in_o english_a no_o nor_o yet_o that_o our_o english_a translation_n do_v agree_v in_o all_o thing_n with_o the_o true_a sense_n and_o meaning_n of_o the_o original_n if_o they_o do_v believe_v either_o of_o these_o i_o must_v thus_o far_o profess_v myself_o a_o antisidian_a to_o they_o if_o by_o the_o scripture_n the_o ordinance_n mean_v the_o original_a hebrew_n and_o greek_a copy_n out_o of_o which_o the_o english_a bible_n be_v say_v to_o be_v translate_v i_o desire_v to_o know_v upon_o what_o ground_n either_o of_o reason_n or_o religion_n these_o man_n or_o any_o other_o can_v require_v of_o man_n under_o the_o pain_n of_o death_n yea_o under_o the_o pain_n of_o eternal_a death_n heresy_n death_n the_o vindicaters_n call_v the_o deny_v of_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n a_o damn_v ble_a heresy_n to_o believe_v such_o writing_n to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o matter_n or_o content_n whereof_o they_o neither_o know_v nor_o be_v capable_a of_o know_v upon_o any_o better_a term_n of_o assurance_n i_o mean_v in_o a_o ordinary_a way_n of_o providence_n than_o the_o testimony_n common_a report_n or_o authority_n of_o man_n for_o what_o other_o or_o better_a assurance_n can_v plain_o and_o unlearned_a man_n and_o such_o who_o be_v altogether_o ignorant_a of_o the_o original_a language_n and_o not_o in_o any_o capacity_n of_o learn_v they_o which_o be_v the_o case_n of_o thousand_o thousand_o in_o the_o land_n attain_v or_o come_v unto_o that_o such_o and_o such_o thing_n as_o the_o english_a translation_n present_v unto_o they_o be_v contain_v in_o those_o original_a copy_n yea_o in_o case_n they_o be_v expert_a in_o the_o original_a language_n themselves_o according_a to_o what_o be_v call_v expertnesse_n or_o skillfulness_n in_o they_o at_o this_o day_n what_o other_o or_o what_o better_a assurance_n can_v they_o have_v than_o the_o testimony_n and_o authority_n of_o those_o man_n from_o or_o by_o who_o they_o have_v gain_v this_o knowledge_n that_o this_o skill_n or_o knowledge_n of_o they_o be_v according_a to_o the_o truth_n or_o that_o those_o respective_a signification_n meaning_n importance_n of_o word_n and_o 29._o sect._n 29._o phrase_n which_o they_o have_v learn_v from_o man_n be_v the_o very_a same_o with_o those_o which_o the_o penman_n of_o their_o original_a copy_n intend_v respective_o in_o their_o writing_n it_o be_v well_o know_v among_o scholar_n and_o man_n but_o of_o ordinary_a read_n that_o word_n and_o phrase_n in_o other_o language_n by_o continuance_n of_o time_n and_o succession_n of_o generation_n lose_v their_o primitive_a and_o ancient_a force_n and_o signification_n and_o contract_v such_o which_o be_v very_o much_o differ_v from_o they_o many_o instance_n may_v be_v give_v hereof_o both_o in_o the_o latin_a tongue_n and_o our_o own_o but_o 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