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A09610	An aduertisement written to a secretarie of my L. Treasurers of Ingland, by an Inglishe intelligencer as he passed throughe Germanie towardes Italie Concerninge an other booke newly written in Latin, and published in diuerse languages and countreyes, against her Maiesties late proclamation, for searche and apprehension of seminary priestes, and their receauers, also of a letter vvritten by the L. Treasurer in defence of his gentrie, and nobility, intercepted, published, and answered by the papistes.; Elizabethae, Angliae Reginae, haeresim Calvinianam propugnantis saevissimum in Catholicos sui Regnis edictum. English. Abridgments	Parsons, Robert, 1546-1610.; Cresswell, Joseph, 1556-1623, attributed name.; Verstegan, Richard, ca. 1550-1640, attributed name.	1592 (1592)	STC 19885; ESTC S121696	41,247	68

much the awnswerer in effecte replieth to this poynte of the Cardinall An other poynte also he handleth touching father Persons vvhome he saith my L. Treasurer in this proclamation by a certayne calumniation more rediculous then enuious affirmeth to arrogate to himself the name of the King Catholiques confessour vvhich not being so nor likely nor almost possible to be so for that this place and charge requireth a man of the same nation skilfull and practised both in the language and affayres of the country and the saide father not lying or residing in the court but commonly in the Inglish hovvses and colledges either of Vallidolid Ciuil or S. Lucar and no argument or probability offering it self in the vvorld vvhy old Cecil should fall into this so doting an imagination excepte it vvere to scoffe by the vvay at the King of Spaines being called Catholique and hauing of a confessour this defendant taketh occasion hereby to examine these tvvo vvoordes First vvhat this vvord Catholique meaneth hovv it first began euen with the vvord Christian and vvas inuented by the Aposteles themselues and put in to their creed to explicate the other vvord and to restrayne the signification of a Christian or professour of Christe his name in generall vnto a trevv faithfull and obedient Christian for vvhich he alleageth the testimony of an auncient holy Bisshopp named Pacianus that saide Christian is my name but Catholique is my surname by the first I am named but by the second I am knowen proued and distinguisted from all others for which cause also the Aposteles vsed this word Catholique to distinguish the trevv Church of Christe from al other false conuenticles of heretiques and feigned Christians of all vvhich this man inferreth by diuers testimonyes of S. Augustine and other fathers that no name is more glorious in the vvorld then to be called a Catholique and that the Kings of Spaine haue iustly to reioyce and take honour of this tytle geuen them by the sea Apostolique notvvitstanding Maister Cecils scoffe and that it is much more ridiculous apis he in the Ministers of Ingland to geue the tytle of defender of the Catholique faith so solemnely in euery of theire sermons to the Queene of Ingland seing it is a tytle that vvas assigned to her father by Pope Leo the tenth for vvriting only against Luther in defence of papistrie vvhich her Maiestie impugneth and persecuteth to death and therefore to hold the tytle and to deny the faith no man can imagin saith this awnswerer how it can stand together but onely by M. Cecils combinanation that can pach together any thing for his purpose in what kind soeuer For the second vvhy euery Prince should haue a confessour according to the old custome of all Princes this man alleageth many reasons and authorities and namely out of S. Augustine vvho saith that no Christian will refuse to confesse his synnes to a priest that is Gods vicar but onely such as either are cōfounded by shame or beaddy with pryde to their owne damnation vpon this he inferreth what a miserable daungerous state Maister Cecil hath broughte not onely himself but also her Maiestie vnto that whereas other Princes discharge their consciences by confession and receauing absolutiō of the Church appointed by Christe our sauiour euery yeare many tymes her Maiestie hath passed ouer now fower and thirtie yeares without that benefit contrarie to the example of all the Kinges and Queenes of Ingland her noble progenitours that euer were from the firste conuersion of the same vnto her tyme whereof none euer wanted this honour and benefit of a confessour but her self excepte it were perhaps King Edward her brother who being a child and in the handes of others can make no president to the contrary but for King Henry her father he obserued the same also most strictely euen vnto his dying day and made it death vnto him that should contradict the same and so did all his auncestours before him obserue the like moste holy beneficial and Catholique vse in so much that in deed her Maiestie is the very firste of all Inglish Princes that euer hath auentured to caste her soule into that aeternall daunger as to heape fower and thirtie yeares sinnes together without confession or absolution of theChurch and to leaue them to the seuere iudgemēte of almighty God vpon contempte of that spiritual tribunal which he hath assigned in his Church for the remission of the same and all this vpon M Cecils persuasion saith this awnswerer who being oppressed with the multitude of his owne synnes wil not be able to help her Maiestie in that day and for that Cardinall Allen father Persons others of their coate and charitie do pitty her Maiestie in this great danger therefore M. Cecil auoucheth them for traitours VVherefore this Section is concluded vvith a sharpe reprehensiō of my L. Treasurers proceedings woordes and dealings against these two men in special who yet are auouched neuer to haue done him hurt nor to any other protestant that hath passed in Catholique countryes where their credites might haue vvrought them preiudice yf they vvould And in particuler he alleageth how that both these men being in Rome together the yeare 1586. they had vnderstanding of my L. Treasurers grandchild heyre of his howse being secretly there and vvere so farr of from doing him hurte which they mighte haue done as they vsed all curtesie frendship towardes him both in wordes and deedes and procured from the Pope his safe returne which the grandfather that well knoweth thereof and was priuy to the iourney in all law of nobility and ciuilitie were bounde to requite saith this awnswerer yf any seede of the one or the other vertue were in his breste The fifte and last Section THE fifte and laste Section comprehendeth the whole conclusion of the premisses vvith order punishement for the offendors and for that 〈◊〉 this defender affirmeth the said premisses haue bin proued to be moste false forged and malitiously aggrauated by the accuser it is no maruaile though the conclusion be correspondent to the same that is to say moste vniuste and iniurious seing it is inferred and inforced vpon these wordes in the proclamation it self to vvit wherefore considering that these intentions of the King of Spaine are to vs made very manifest vvhich intentions notvvitstāding this awnswerer taketh to be so manifesto by this day vnto all the whole vvorld that there vvere neuer any such as he thinketh that Maister Cecil himself for very shame can not deny it and consequently muste needes confesse in his harte that all this blouddy conclusion of murderinge Catholiques was ouer hastely awarded either vpon vaine feare or vnchristian malice and yet doth the ●…nswerer examine the particuler remedies which 〈◊〉 prescribed in the proclamation against these supposed daungers of the realme and deuised intentions of the King of Spaine And the firste remedie is that the Godly Ministers of

How he for conseruing the saide league and frendship refused to gyue aide to the aunciēte nobilitie of Ingland the yeare 1567. when they ment by force to haue reformed the estate and to haue hanged Cecil and Bacon againe how he denyed the same the nexte yeare after to the Earles of Northumberland VVestmerland and to the L. Dacres when they rose for the restoring of Religion in the North pressed ther vnto by M. Cecils vrginge How the K. afterwaerds to wit the yeare 1575. For contenting her Maiestie and at the persuasion of some of his owne officers but namely of the Commendader Maior that for the present gouerned Flanders was content to yeld to the banishement of all Inglishe Catholiques out of his estates of Flanders for the space of two years thoughe he paide them alwayes their pensions to liue on as before And for the same consideracion of frendship with the Queene and for his keeping his league with her he denyed diuers yeares helpes to the Irishe that demaunded the same as namely the yeare 1578. to Sir Iames Fizmoris and to Sir Thomas Stukeley and to the later of them when afterward he came with some fiue or six hundred men that he had broughte from Italie the King would not graunte so much as a porte in Spaine to enter into whereby he was forced to passe to Lisbone where finding the King of Portugall ready to go with his army to Barbary he could not refuse to go with him where he was slaine but to Sir Iames Fizmoris returning againe the nexte yeare to aske succours for the Irishe oppressed for their Religion in Ireland the Kinge denyed the same againe vntill at laste at the earnest sute of the Pope for that D. Sanders vpon his extreame zeale had aduentured to go thither before to comforte the Catholiques with lesse then fiftie men his Maiestie was contente to wynke at and say nothing whiles Sega the Bishop of Placētia the Popes Nuncio vnder certaine of his Italian Captaynes did send thither some foure or fiue hundred souldiers taken vp vpon the Sea coste of Italie which this awnswerer saith were those which my L. Gray so cowardly and traiterously murdered in Irland after they had yeilded themselues by cōposition the yeare 1580. And so from this time forward vntill the yeare 1585. he sheweth that the King of Spayne obserued most exactely his league with her Maiestie and the Inglishe nation at what tyme being inforced by the Queenes open taking of Flushing Briel Ostēde other townes in Flanders he made the arreste of the Inglishe shippes in Spaine but on the other side he declareth how the Inglish euen from the firste entrance ofher Maiestie to the crowne haue exercised all kinde ofhatefull hostile actions against the King by stirring vp and fauoring firste of all his rebelles in Flanders by intercepting his money firste in the Duke of Alua his time and alwayes after when they coulde lay handes on it by treating also first the comming of the Duke Matthias into Flanders and after ofMounsieur the Duke of Alenson and assisting him publiquely against the King in time of peace by mayntayninge and bolstering vp ofDon Antonio that calleth himself King ofPortugall by sending Hawkins Frobishire Drake Candishe other Pirates to the Indians and some ofthem euen in to Spaine it self for which he alleageth out ofStowes chronicles speciall commission geuen by her Maiestie to spoile the King of Spaines subiects by sea long before any breach ofleague was talked of by the Kinges parte and so he concludeth that this firste accusation of the proclamation is moste iniuste and that the whole world will laugh thereat that the writer thereof which he taketh to be my L. Treasurer was very shamelesse in setting it downe The 2. parte of this section THE secōde poynte of this Section cōcerneth that which the proclamation affirmeth of the King of Spaines ambitious doings also towardes other Princes besydes her Maiestie and that all Christendome is troubled at this day by his onely warres For discussing whereof this awnswerer laieth downe al the proceedings both ofher Maiestie and the King of Spaine with their neighboures from the beginnings of both their raignes And firste for the King ofSpaine he sheweth his dealings in particuler with the Turke Moores and other infidels then also with the Italians Portugalls French Inglishe Irishe Scotishe and Flemishe and sheweth al to haue bin euer most honorable quiet iuste without iniury offered to any as by their owne testimonies and witnesse also of all writers appeareth and for the warre and other affaires that haue passed in Portugall he proueth in particuler out of Hieronimo Franchi a Genoes that vvas present and wrote the storie and in other points sheweth himself no great frind to Spaniardes yet doeth he so iustifie all the Kings actions in this affaire euen by testimony of the Portugalles themselues as they seemed rather ouer scrupulous then onely iustifiable He proueth also outof Genebrard a French writter the King of Spaines noble proceedings with France in all the tymes of the minorities of al Kinge Henry the secōd his children to witt of Francis Charles and Henry the thirde and how he neuer soughte not onely to profit himself or to impaire the kingdome of France duringe those troubles as the Queene of Ingland did by taking new hauen but also ofhis owne charges sent aydes of men horse victualls and money often tymes to the succors of these younge Princes against their rebells notwithstanding the olde enimities emulatiō betweene these two crownes of France Spaine the cruell warres that had passed betwene them many years before Likwise he sheweth the kings wonderfull clemente proceeding with his owne subiects that haue rebelled in the low countreys as appeareth by his many pardons peaces and tolerations made with them his liberall and noble dealing with Inglishe Irishe and Scottishe especially such as haue bin troubled afflicted for their consciences at home whom he hath sustayned liberally abrode without requyring any seruice at their hands After this he taketh in hand to compare with this the Inglishe proceedings towardes all their neighbours rounde about them to whome he sheweth that they haue bin the proper and continuall causes of troubles warres sedition bloodshedd and vtter perdition as namely in Frāce of fower ciuill warres besides all other reuoltes and conspiracies against the true Kinges turmoyles in Religion and other garbroyles and the like to haue bin caused by them in Flanders by stirring vp and ayding firste the Guses and other rebelles of the countrie and then by settinge on foote Orenge and bringing in other princes and forraine povvers and lastly by open iniustice of inuadinge and holding the same to themselues as at this day they do In Scotland also he declareth very particulerly out of the Inglishe cronicles themselues what vvicked and sinfull stratagemes at the beginninge were vsed to putt that people at discorde the one against

vntill this booke come forth that I may sende you a copie VVhich yf you thinke good you may present to our good Lord and master in my name as you may doe also the exstract thereof that now I send though in trueth the tooth and stomack of the writer seemeth to be so specially great against his lordship aboue all others and toucheth him so bitterly in so many places esteeming him the principall cause of al the bloudshedd of his partie that I am ashamed and half afraide also that it sholde be given vnto his honour in my behalf yet could I not with my dewtie and allegeance but aduertise the matter as I finde it and so haue I done in the abbreuiation taking out euery thinge as neer as I cā in sense though not in wordes as in the booke it lieth and that in more sweete and temperate manner also diuers tymes then there it is sett downe culling out onely the heades of the most principal matters and leauing vtterly the discourses declarations and proofes of the same wich are in truth more pearcing plausible and popular then will easily be imagined but by reading the whole and in one word beleeue yow Sir that it is a very pestilent booke and so I pray you aduertise his lordship and commend my seruice with continuing me in his honors good grace and fauour which I euer desire to deserue as I may and so to the lord I commyt you from Augusta this first of August 1592. Your most affectionate THE EXTRACT AND ABBREVIATION OF THE BOOKE OF IHON PHILOPATRIS AGAINST her Maiesties proclamation The preface of the Author FIRST in the preface he taketh vpon him to discouer the trew causes of this proclamation which he saith to be the feare of the new Seminaries lately begunne in Spayne with the cōtinuance flourishing of the others in Rome and Rheims feare of the Pope and king of Spaines preparations of warr againste France the lacke of mony in Inglande to helpe the K. of Navarre and to prosecute other designementes and the arte to get it this way by feigning terrours and troubles at home Secondly he sheweth what modestie and humility the Catholiques for his wordes I will vse hereafter in all this extract haue vsed hitherto in their owne defence alleaging for this the example of two Apologies wrytten by 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 other bookes vpon hope that some clement gentler way would be taken by her Maiestie and her Councell but seing as he saith that by all theire submilsiō they haue profited nothing he taketh leaue by the president and example of many aunciēte fathers that wrote sharpely against the persecutours of their times but namely and chiefely of S. Hilarie whose wordes he alleageth against Cōstātinus the Arrian Emperour to deale more plainely in this his awnswere then others haue donne heretofore promisinge notwithstandinge the modestie that shal be conuenient for the tyme persons and matter he handleth THE FIRST SECTION OF THE PROCLAMATION AND ANSWER The first Section conteyneth onely the title of the proclamation and is deuided in to three principal heades THE firste head concerneth those first wordes By the Queene about the which he examineth whether these so many fierce cruell lawes and proclamatiōs as he cal leth them which come out dayly against Catholiques do proceede of her Maiesties owne inclination and propension or no or whether by the instigation of others for theire owne commodities abusing her Maiesties sexe and age at the beginning where vnto he rather yeildeth and nameth fiue or six principall men who haue bin the causes and instrumentes of all miserie to Ingland as he tearmeth it and of the perdition of the realme by theire especiall authority with her Maiestie These men he affirmeth to haue bin Sir Nicolas Bacon and my L. Treasurer the Earle of Leicester Sir Francis VValsingham and Sir Christophor Hatton of whome he saith he will tell their beginninges their entrance with the Queene their manner of proceeding their actions and their endinges obseruing the order rather of their deathes and falling then of their rising to honours for that he saieth the remembrance of this day is more ioyfull to good men then that of the other and so for that my L. Treasurer is the onely mā of all the five that now liueth he reserueth his story for the laste place of all Of Sir Nicolas Bacon he sheweth how he rose and how my L. Treasurer and he the one helping the other by the assistance of Sir Antony Cooke theire father in law and Sir Ihon Cheeke King Edwardes schoole-maister came both first in fauor That Sir Nicolas Bacons father beinge seruant to the Abbote of Bery and keeper of his sheepe and cattell put his sonne to Greyes Inne where first he was vnder-butler aud afterward grew vp higher vntill by the augmentation court and atturneship of the VVardes he came to be lord keeper wherein this man saith he shewed himself so corrupt and partiall for bribery as neuer man before or since in that place for which he allegeth a protestation also of Plowdē the famous lawier made at the Chauncery barr Bacon beinge present that he woulde neuer returne thither so long as so cortupte a iudge should sitt in that place which he performed here vnto he addeth diuers other perticularities touchinge the life and death of Sir Nicolas Bacon Of my L. of Leicester and the varietie of fortune which he saw and proued in his life how he was borne and brought vp in all aboundāce and felicitie and after saw himself againe in extreame calamity his father and bretheren being put to death and himfelf condemned to the same lotte but that fortune turning againe lifted him vp higher then euer before but all to the worse for that he had neuer bin so wicked yf he had not byn so potent How he was the sonne of a Duke brother of a Kinge nephew of an esquier and great grandchild of a Carpenter as the common fame runneth which yf it be trew the Carpenter by all likelyhoode was the happiest man of all the generation for that perhaps he was an honeste man and died in his bedd whereas all the other perished by violent deathes for theire wickednes c. Of Lecesters entrāce in to fauour with her Maiestie of the begininge of his greatnes how he firste lefte the Catholique faith which at the beginning for diuers yeares he fauoured of the murdering of his wife at Cūner of his adulteries murders and rapines after of his dealings in flanders and miserable death without heyre or frind and of the quicke mariage of lady Lettece after his dispatch Of Sir Francis VValsinghams seruing of Leicesters turne in all thinges how he was Embassador in France and how he came to be of the Councell how he helde a faction againste my L. Treasurer was a man of hastie fiery and cruell nature especially againste catholiques spente infinitely vpon spyery and when matter wanted filled her

saide she I know not vvhome it shoulde meane excepte it were M. Cecil who being out of credit at this present and neuer like to come in againe I hope shall neuer be able to bring that to passe This doe reporte such as haue hard it of the Countesse owne mouth and perhaps her sonne may yet remember it though he vvil not dare to speake it neither remembred M. Cecil at that tyme to vvrite himself Sitsilt to euacuate that prophecie as he mighte haue done had he knowen himself then to haue descended of that howse which now he pretendeth Moreouer this awnswerer asketh how yf it be trevv that Dauid Cecil my lordes grandfather descended of the nobles Princes of wales was so greatly in creditt with K. Henry the 7. as to be squyer for the body as well to him as to his sonne K. Henry the eighte hovv then is it lykely that he would keepe an Inne in Stāford as diuers vvorshipfull yet aliue or lately dead haue affirmed to haue layen in the same also how it is possible that his sonne the Treasures father named also Dauid Cecil if I forget not should be onely groome of the vvardrobe so plaine and meane a man as thousandes yet can testifie that he was how finally VVilliam Cecil their child now Treasurer could be so poore and meanely brought vp as to get parte of his mayntenance by ringing the morning bel at his beginning in S. Ihons colledge in Cambridge as commonly yet in that vniuersitie is reported And lastly this awnswerer taketh this for an euidente argumente of M. Cecills cogging and coseninge in this behalf that for diuers yeares he tooke himself farr different armes frō these vvhich of late he hath taken vp of the Sitsiltes for his former armes yf I be not deceaued vvere twoo Lyons eating of a wheaten sheafe betwene them as it is to be seene in diuers of his howses vvhere they are yet engrauen aftervvard seing the Armes of the Sitsiltes an auncient howse greatly decayed yf not extinguished to be six Lyons he hath taken them also to himself as it is here reported to terrifie the vvorld perhaps vvithal and to liken himself thereby to Princes that commonly haue Lyons in their armes where as a good fatt capon or a rosted pigg seemeth a fitter cognisaunce for an Inneholders grandchild as this man affirmeth seing that those things are more commonly to be founde in Innes and Osteries then are Lyons and thus much in effecte he avvnsvvereth to the contents of my L. Treasurers letter touching his gentry which this defender taketh either vvholy to be feigned or moste vainely to be delated by the old mans ambition After this he commeth to avvnsvvere those wordes of the proclamation vvherin is is saide that my Lord Cardinall and father Parsons do gather together with greate labours a multitude of dissolute yonge men who haue partly for lack of liuing and partly for crimes committed become fugitiues rebelles and traitours for whome there are in Rome and Spaine and other places certaine receptacles made to liue in there to be instructed in schoole points of sedition c. All vvhich vvordes this avvnsvverer examineth and firste vvhat difference there is in holy vvryt betvvene dispersers and gatherers and vvhat curse there is laide vpon the one blessing vpon the other by Gods ovvne mouth and that seing M. Cecill and other persecutours at the instigation of the devil do so attend to disperse their countreymen good reason some others should serue God in gatheringe and nourishing the dispersed for his cause Secondly he sheweth that these two men haue no need to vse greate labours in gathering together these youthes as the proclamation feigneth for that God himself gathereth them aboundantely from al partes of the Realme and the euidente truth of the Catholique faith stireth them to seeke meanes abreode for the saluation of their soules seing they can not be permitted to haue them at home and whereas many were letted before from comming out of Ingland for that they knew not where to goe to be receaued mayntayned and instructed now being informed thereof by this indiscrete proclamation of M. Cecils penning which admonis heth all men that besydes the former colledges and Seminaries in France and Rome there are other also newly erected in Spaine many haue resolued to come ouer which otherwise had stayed in Ingland so them selues at theire comming haue professed and the King of Spayne among other Princes hauing seene so barbarous an edicte and considered the conscienceles causes of their distresses hath greatly enlarged his fauours towardes the saide Inglishe Seminaries in his dominions both by his personall visiting of that in validolid and larger allowance tovvardes the mayntenance of the same and thus doeth M. Cecil profit by his new diuises Thirdly he sheweth that these students come not out of Ingland neither for lacke of liuing nor for crimes committed as the proclamation moste vnjustly doth slaunder them Not for the firste for that they being commonly gentlemen or vvealthie peoples children and as good witts as any lefte behynd them they might casely haue preserrmente yf they vvould apply themselues to the protestant proceedings and here he sheweth at large the great multitude of gentlemens sonnes vvhich leauing their inheritances and other hopes of vvorldly possibilities at home do come ouer dayly to study and be made priests vvith infinite desire to returne againe quickly to Ingland vvhere priesthoode is more hated infamed and pursued then any cryme or vvickednes in the vvorld and that no such desire vvas seene in gentry and nobilitie to priesthood in Catholique tyme vvhen is vvas honorable and commodious to be a prieste vvhich muste needes procede of Gods owne hande and that there are more gentlemen this day in the Inglishe Seminaries of France Rome Spaine then in all the Clergy of Ingland tvvise told to vvhich no gentleman commonly will affoord his sonne to be a Minister and much lesse his daughter to be a Ministers vvyf vvith diuers examples of the basenes of their chiefe Prelates as among others of Pierse Cooper Archbisshop Bisshop of yorke and winchester both borne at Oxford as this felow saith the one the sonne of a labourer and the other of a cobler and diuers others like vnto them vvhich yet M. Cecil toucheth not with basenes nor that they went to their ministerie for neede And that these students come not ouer for crymes committed he saith is much more plaine by the desire the Magistrates of Ingland haue to receaue them backe againe with all grace and fauor yf they vvould returne and he noteth for a very markable thing that in these twentie yeares vvherein aboue a hundred of the Seminaries haue bin put to death publiquely and vvillingly for their religion and many hundreds haue liued in Ingland in common attire of other men the more thereby to dissemble their calling neuer yet any one of them in so many

yeares hath bin apprehended or punished for any crime or disorder of life or manners as thefte murder adulterie quarreling cosening or the like for vvhich crymes and vvorse notwithstanding al Ingland knoweth that their ministers are at euery assise almoste brought to the barr and many tymes also to the gallowes it self neither at the condemnations of these so many priests as haue bin martyred hathe any such matter of cryme or euill life bin proued against them but onely matters of iudgement and learning layd to their charge which M. Cecil in this proclamation by a new fonde phantastical phrase tearmeth Schoole points of sedition as for example to teach that a man muste confesse his synnes to a prieste that he muste make restitution of such things as he hath taken vvrongefully from others that he muste heare masse that he muste acknowledge the Bisshop of Rome to be superame heade of the Church next vnder Christe and the like vvhich vvere poyntes of schoole and accompted both currant and Catholique doctrine in Ingland for a thousand yeares before Cecil vvas borne and are at this present in other countreyes abroade and will to the worldes ende when a thousand such malignant and wrangeling vvormes as Cecil is shalbe dead and rotten and rosting in hell for their vvickednes and yet onely for these crimes of auncient doctrine and our fathers faith are these priests apprehended condemned murdered which well declareth their innocency in crymes of life and manners whatsoeuer the staunderous toung of Cecill the old Atheiste affirmeth to the contrary The like manifeste lye sclaūder this awnswerer saith it is wherby such as go ouer to the Seminaryes are named here by M. Cecill a multitude of dissolute yonge men whtrin this defender reporteth himself to the testimony of all the purseuantes and catchpoles of Inglād whether their chiefeste signe and marke to descry a papiste or a Catholique yonge man be not to note his modestie his silence his grauitie his composition of body and countenance his moderation of wordes and the like and yf he can come to pearse more inwardly into his life then to learne whether he faste or pray much whether he vse to weare heareclothes or some tyme to lye on the ground to mortifie his body whether he geue much almes or make secret restitution of thinges vniustly possessed either by himself or his auncestours which signes of a papisticall life yf any man should bring to a purseuante of Inglād I doubte not but that he would thincke he had iuste cause enough to suspecte and apprehend such a person without further matter and on the contrary side yf one should come and say that such or such a person is a papiste and recusant and others should come and say that they know him to be a good felow as they tearme him that is to wit that he will eate and drincke tosse pottes with any man that he will fight and brawle sweare and stare and folow queanes cutt and hacke and take a purse when opportunitie is offered in this case this defender assureth himself that no purseuante in Ingland would euer lay handes on such a man for a recusant though he neuer went to church throughout the whole yeare as moste of such protestātical good felowes do not in deede excepte it be only once or twise for a shew yet are they neuer touched or called in question for the same by which is is euident saith this awnswerer on what side lieth the dissolution of life licentiousnes of manners and where discipline and order is held in the same And thus much now at home where it is wel knowne saith this man that many a Catholique youth to the ende he be not discouered and brought in question is inforced to feigne himself against the heare often tymes to be a Ruffian a cutter or good felow thereby to gett the creditt of a good protestant or at leaste wise not to be any precise or zelous papiste which is not the leaste miserie and seruitude among others to such as inwardely are otherwise bent would serue God in vertuous life wherefore it is no maruaile saith this awnswerer yf vvhen they get ouer the sea and are in libertie to liue as they would they betake themselues to so stricte and precise a forme of lyuing both of their studies manners at that of the Seminariesis which this man very particularly prescribeth firste how they enter in then how they proceede and finally in what manor they end and do turne to there country againe He declareth what they muste do to be admitted what exercises of learning and vertue they muste haue in the howse throughout tbe vvhole day vveeke and yeare vvhat prayers dayly both mental and vocal what meditatiōs lessons and disputes they haue in the forenoone vvhat after dynner vvhat dyet apparell cōuersation recreatiō is allowed them vvhat exercises in philosophie vvhat in schoole diuinitie vvhat in positiue vvhat in cases of conscience controuersies tounges and other learning fit for the end vvhich they do pretende how they profit in the same vvith what mynd and furniture they returne to Ingland and at leugth he compareth all this with the loose proceedings of Inglishe vniuersities and colledges at this day where he saith that Cecil Leicester and such other like rather Cancellers of all vertues then chauncelors of vniuersities haue ouerthrowen all broken downe the walles and hedges of all discipline exiled all sounde and solid learning extinguished all modestie shamefastenes and religiō haue laide open the vvay to dissolution Ruffianry and Atheisme For to theise gouernours he imputeth the taking away of porters from colledge gates which greatly kept students in awe to these he imputeth the cōfusion in apparell immodestie thereof whereby euery man weareth in the vniuersities either as his pryde or fancy serueth or as his purse and ability permitteth To these he imputeth the filling vp and pestering all colledges with all harlotry women to be baytes for younge men that study in the same the headships geuen to lighte and wanton compaignions the fence and dauncing schooles so much by students frequented the tauernes filled with schollers the statutes of founders cōtemned broken the leases embezeled the goods made away and places of felowes and schollers publiquely sold and infinite other disorders confusion and dissolution which all the world seeth and the students themselues do wonder at when they come ouer and see the contrary on this side the sea as this defender affirmeth and with this with a place or two of S. Gregorie Nazianzene against lulian the Apostata very bytterly applied against my L. Treasurer he endeth the second parte of this thirde Section The thirde parte of this 3. Section IN this parte of the Section he answereth the charge giuen in the proclamation against Seminary priests that their end of comming in to Ingland in such secret maner with authoritie of the Pope is to moue men to rebellion and