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A06555 The English iarreĀ· or disagreement amongst the ministers of great Brittaine, concerning the Kinges supremacy. VVritten in Latin by the Reuerend Father, F. Martinus Becanus of the Society of Iesus, and professour in diuinity. And translated into English by I.W. P.; Dissidium Anglicarum de primatu Regis. English Becanus, Martinus, 1563-1624.; Wilson, John, ca. 1575-ca. 1645? 1612 (1612) STC 1702; ESTC S121050 28,588 66

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c. As soone as it was thought good to diuulge King Henryes death by and by Edward his sonne being of the age of nyne yeares was proclaymed King of England and ordayned supreme Head of the Church of England on earth next vnder Christ c. 3. Queene Elizabeth although she were a woman yet she thought her selfe no way inferiour to her Father or Brother She therfore would be also called supreme Head of the Church of England For so wryteth Iacobus Thuanus in his 15. booke of the Historyes of his time Elizabetha recepto à Patre fratre titulo Ecclesiae Caput per Angliam coepit appellari Q. Elizabeth hauing receaued the former Title from her Father Brother began to be called Head of the Church throughout England c. 4. But now adayes vnder K. Iames this title is put in ieopardy The Chaplaine to wit M. Doctor Andrewes doth admit the same in his Tortura Torti but M. Tooker and M. Burhill do reiect it M. Tookers words which a little before I recited are these Olere autem militiam clamitare audaciam tuam videtur illud cùm Regem Caput Ecclesiae Primatemque confingas It may seeme to sauour of malice and cry out vpon your sausines when as you feigne the King to be Head and Primate of the Church c. And in like manner doth M. Burhill pag 133. reprehend a certaine person of ouer much wantonnes and boldnes for calling the King Head Pastour and Primate of Bishops 5. In this debate and Iarre then what shall the King do If he admit the Title of Supreme head of the Church of England M. Tooker M. Burhill will no doubt murmure shrewdly If he reiect it what then will the Chaplaine say Perhaps this contention may be mollified if the King as he gaue to the Chaplayne the Bishopricke of Ely so he would giue to M. Tooker and M. Burhill two other Bishopricks For then least they might seeme vngratefull they would easily graunt this Title to the King and a far greater too V. Question VVhether the Kings Primacy do consist in any Power or Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall HEERE now is there a great Iarre and debate amongst our English Aduersaries nor can the same be easily vnderstood vnlesse it be first well distinguished Ecclesiasticall Power is threefold as the Deuines do teach One of Order another of interiour Iurisdiction the third of exteriour Iurisdiction To the first belongeth to effect or consecrate and administer Sacraments to the second to gouerne the Church in the interiour Court or Court of Conscience and to the third belongeth to gouerne the Church in the exteriour Court Now certaine it is that the King hath not the Power of Order by reason of his Primacy For this doth M. Tooker confesse pag. 14. where he saith Reges non habent potestatem administrandi Sacramenta Kinges haue not power to administer Sacraments It is also certaine that he hath not Iurisdiction of the interiour Court or Court of Conscience For this in like manner doth M. Tooker confesse pag. 63. Omnis iurisdictio saith he in foro interiori Sacerdotum est nulla Regum All iurisdiction in the interiour Court or Court of Conscience belongeth to Priests not any way to Kings c. 2. All the question then is whether the King hath Iurisdictiō Ecclesiastical in the exteriour Court or no About this point are the Englishmen at a great iarre and variance amongst themselues some affirming it some denying it others distinguishing M. Tooker affirmeth it pag. 305. in these words Qui habet plenissimam am●lissimam iurisdictionem in foro exteriore potest eamdem dare auferre Rex eam habet Ergo potest eamdem dare auferre Totum hoc liquet ex V. N. Testamento He that hath most full and ample Iurisdiction in the exteriour Court can giue and take away the same at his pleasure But the King hath this Iurisdiction Ergo he can giue and take away the same Al this is manifest out of the old new Testament c. With him agreeth also M. Salclebridge pag. 140. Reges oleo sacro vncti capaces sunt Iurisdictionis spiritualis Kings saith he annoynted with holy oyle are made capable of spirituall Iurisdiction c. And then againe in the same place out of the Lawes of England R●x saith he est persona mixta vrpote qui ●cclesiasticam temporalem iurisdictionem habet quidem Supremam The King is a person mixt to wit that hath both Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall and Temporall and that in the highest degree c. And yet more pag. 144. Per leges ●cclesiasticas in hoc Regno approbatas vnus Sacerdos duo ben●ficia ha●ere non potest nec Bastardus Sacris initiari V●rùm Rex ●cclesiastica potestate iurisdictione quam habet in vtroque dispensare potest By the Ecclesiasticall Lawes approued in this Kingdome of ●ngland one Priest may not haue two Benefices nor a Bastard be made Priest But the King by the Iurisdiction and Power Ecclesiasticall which he hath can dispense in both c. 3. M. Tompson and M. Burhill do absolutely deny it M. Tompson pag. 80. of his booke wryting thus ●rimatus ●ccles●ae non est d●●iniendus per iurisdiction●m Ecclesiasticam sed per gubernation●m supr●mam The Primacy of the Church is not to be defined by Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall but by supreme Gouerment c. And againe pag. 95. Diximus Reg●m gub●rnar● quid●m Ecclesiastica● s●d non Ecclesias●i●è We haue said before that the King indeed doth gouerne Ecclesiasticall things but not Ecclesiastically And why I pray you Because forsooth he hath not Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall but only temporall And hereunto agreeth M. Burhill pag. 234. granting this negatiue proposition Rex saith he nullam habet Iurisdictionem Ecclesiasticam nec in foro interiori nec in exteriori The King hath no Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall neyther in the interiour nor exteriour Court c. 4. Now my Lord of Ely he distinguisheth in this case as may be seene in M. Tookers Booke pag. 305. in these wordes Habet Rex omnem iurisdictionē spiritualem in foro exteriori exceptis quibusdam Censuris The King hath all Iurisdiction spirituall in the exteriour Court except in certaine Censures c. So as now to this question to wit whether the King as he is Primate and Head of the Church haue any Iurisdiction Ecclesiasticall or spirituall in the exteriour Court we must answere thus First with M. Tooker and M. Salclebridge That he hath most ample most full and supreme Iurisdiction Secondly with my Lord of Ely That he hath indeed some but not all And lastly with M. Burhill and M. Tompson That he hath none no not any one iote at all VI. Question VVhether the King of his owne Authority can assemble or call togeather Councells 1. NOv follow the Iarres and debates of our Aduersaries concerning the Offices and Functions of the Kings Primacy they ●re six in number which may be