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A72420 The soule is immortall, or, Certaine discourses defending the immortalitie of the soule against the limmes of Sathan to wit, Saducees, Anabaptists, atheists and such like of the hellish crue of aduersaries / written by Iohn Iackson. Jackson, John, fl. 1611.; Houppelande, Guillaume, d. 1492. De immortalitate animae.; Xenocrates, of Chalcedon, ca. 396-ca. 314 B.C. De morte.; Athenagoras, 2nd cent. De resurrectione.; Palingenio Stellato, Marcello, ca. 1500-ca. 1543. 1611 (1611) STC 14297a.3; ESTC S116566 64,456 189

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first it is manifest by the wordes of our Sauiour Christ himselfe in the Gospell Mat. 10. vers 28. 28. Feare ye not them which kill the Body but are not able to kill the Soule but rather feare him which is able to destroy both Body and Soule in Hell Mat. ca. 18. v. 9. 9. It is better for thee to enter into Life halt then hauing two feete to be cast into Hell Mar. 9.43.44 43. Wherefore if thy Hand cause thee to offende cut it off it is better for thee to enter into Life maimed then hauing two Handes to goe into Hell into Fire that neuer shal be quenched 44. Where the Worme dieth not and the Fire neuer goeth out c. Mat. 25. 31. When the Sonne of man commeth in his glory and all the holy Angels with him then shall he sit vpon the Throne of his glorie 32. And before him shal be gathered all Nations and he shall separate them one from another as the Shepheard separateth the Sheepe from the Goates 33. And he shall set the Sheepe on his right hand and the Goates on his left 34. Then shall the King say to them on his right hand Come ye blessed children of my Father inherite the Kingdome prepared for you from the beginning of the world 41. Then shall he say to them on his left hand Depart from me yee curssed into euerlasting Fire which is prepared for the Deuill and his Angels Iohn 10. My Sheepe heare my voyce I giue vnto them eternall life ¶ Of these Places I doe conclude that the Soule is Immortall because it liueth eternally or is punished euerlastingly In the Booke of Wisedome cap. 3. 1. The Soules of the Righteous are in the hand of God and no torment shall touch them 2 In the sight of the Vnwise they appeare to die and their end was thought grieuous 3. And their departing from vs Destruction but they are in peace 4. And though they suffer paine before men yet is their hope full of Immortalitie 5. They are punished in few thinges yet in many thinges shall they be rewarded for God prooueth them and findeth them meete for him 6. He tryeth them as Gould in the furnace and receiueth them as a perfect fruit offring 7. And in the time of their vision they shall shine and run through as the sparkles among the stubble 8. They shall iudge the nations and haue Dominion ouer the people and their Lord shall raigne for euer Ecclesiastos 12. Because man shall goe to the house of his eternity Also in the last iudgement euery man that is predestinate to saluation shall rise againe to life euerlasting with the same Bodyes they had heere according to that saying of Job Job 19. 25. I am sure that my Redeemer liueth and that I shall rise againe out of the earth at the last day 26. And though after my skinne Wormes destroy this Body yet shall I see God in my flesh 27. Whom I my selfe shall see yea my selfe shall behold and none other for me So that hereby it is very manifest and plaine that all the Soules of men shall euery one of them take againe their owne proper Bodyes being become Immortall or brought vnto the state of Immortalitie of the good and blessed 1. Thessal 4. 14. If we beleeue that Iesus is dead and is risen euen so them that sleepe in Iesus will God bring with him 16. For the Lord himselfe shall descend from Heauen with a shoute and with the voyce of the Archangell and with the Troumpe of God and the dead in Christ shall rise first 17. Then shall we which liue and remaine be caught vp with them also in the Cloudes to meete the Lord in the Aire and so shall wee euer be with the Lord. Rom. 6. 5. If wee be dead with Christ to the similitude of his death euen so shall we be to the similitude of his resurrection 8. If we be dead with Christ we beleeue that we also shall liue with him 9. Knowing that Christ being raysed from the death dieth no more death hath no more power ouer him ¶ Of all good and bad is plaine in the Epistle to the Corinthians 1. Cor. 15. 51. Wee shall not all sleepe but wee shal be all changed 52. In moment of time by the last Trumpet for the Trumpet shall blow and the dead shall be raysed vp incorruptible and we shall be changed 53. For this corruptible must put on incorruption and this mortall must put on immortalitie The Conclusion OF these Authorities and Reasons there may in the minde of euery faythfull man that vndoubtedly beleeueth the holy Scriptures be bred a sufficient Fayth of the Immortalitie of the Soule sufficient I say to saluation yea it doth not seeme possible that those that are instructed in the foresayd Scriptures should doubt of the Immortalitie of the Soule For it doth not seeme natuturally to be possible that some one euidently Assent that the Antecedent cannot be true without the Consequent and vndoubtedly Assent to the Antecedent but the must vndoubtedly Assent to the Consequent which he doth euidently know to be concluded and deducted out of the Antecedent But the Reasons Topicall or Perswasions Probable which we haue before set downe to perswade the second part of the first Conclusion although as it is sayd it be not of their nature to breed nothing else but an Opinion or Assent with feare of the Opposite for Opinion is the acception of one part of the Contradiction with feare of the other yet not withstanding out of the empire of the Will they may breed a firme and sure Assent of the Immortalitie of the Soule aboue Opinion and beneath Science by reason of the same euidence and not adherencie From hence may such perswasions or reasons be able manifoldly and sundry wayes to profite and auayle the fayth of the faythfull for they helpe our Fayth for by them in the vnfaythfull is begun the Fayth of the Immortalitie of the Soule By them is the same Fayth pres●rued and strengthned against the Wicked and Heretickes By the same is it suslayned and defended thereby are the simple at the length throughly mooued and prouoked to true Fayth Wherefore Peter commaundeth To be readie prepared to render to euery one that asketh a reason of the Fayth that is in vs. But the faythfull man hauing such like reasons and perswasions doth not leane to the first trueth and conclusion of Fayth or that the Soule is Immortall principally for those same reasons but rather doth assent to them and vseth them which doe consent to the first trueth that it is well as the Lord sayth by the Samaritanes that worshipped in the Mount By whom are figured and signified the true beleeuers who seeing JESVS by Fayth are called Samaritanes This is to humaine reason Now we doe not beleeue because of thy saying but because wee our selues haue seene and heard Of these thinges it most plainely and most euidently appeareth how great thankes are
to be giuen vnto the most high GOD and Father of Mercies and to our Lord and Sauiour Jesus Christ who hath most certainely assured and fully perswaded his Faythfull ones in these things where vnto the most Wittie the best Learned men that euer were in all the World could not by the light of Naturall reason preuaile sufficiently to attaine to witte of the Last end of the reasonable Creature of the Resurrection of the Dead of the Immortalitie of the reasonable Soule and of the perpetuall Eternitic of the same And this hath that Almighty Lord most merciful Father so done in such sort that now it is not lawfull for vs neither is there any neede to doubt in these thinges or to flow out or run any where else to seeke for props or stayes of our Fayth in these matters Neither is it needfull from hence forward after this time of so great Grace reuealed to seeke or put to new reasons or probable perswasions because wee are most firmely holden without feare of the opposite or without any Ambiguitie to beleeue that the Good iust doe gloriously liue eternally with Christ And that the Euill are tormented perpetually with the Diuell his Angels according to that in the fifth of Iohn And they that haue done euill shall come foorth vnto the resurrection of Iudgement and they that haue done good to the resurrection of Life Which God shall giue to them which neuer change their Fayth from him Which God graunt vnto vs who is blessed for euer and euer Amen FINIS Of the Immortalitie of the Soule out of Palingenius in Capricorne BEcause thou shalt beleeue I will declare to thee By reason good the state of Soule Immortall for to bee For if that God in better thinges doth Cunning still expresse As Wisdome telles and as the good and virtuous must confesse Then doubtlesse must we iudge he gaue the Soules no time to die Since better farre it is for them to liue continually Then with the flesh to be extinct and feele a full decay Which thus I prooue If death do take from vs the Soule away If that we haue no other life but in this body heere Then God may be accounpted ill and shall vniust appeare For thousands euerie day wee see that florish prosperously In Ritches Substance and Renounce in Raignes and Empires hie Yet idle Lubbers naught vnlearnd that sinne at libertie And run the race of all their life in great prosperitie On th' other side we may behold the iust opprest to bee With spightfull chaunce a wretched life and pitious pouertie Thus either God vnrighteous is that doth this thing permit Or after death hath euery man as he deserueth fit Or else he doth disdaine the deedes of mortall men to know Besides what gratious minde in God what goodnes doth he show If this be all that he doth giue a life so short and vaine That swiftly runneth to an end and doth no time remaine The halfe whereof is spent in sleepe the rest in griefe and toyle And dangers great as fast doth fleete as Riuers swift in soyle Therefore goe to ō wretched men build gorgious Churches hie And let with costly Offrings great your Altars pestred lie Set vp your ioy full branch of Bayes your sacred doores about With pompe of proud Procession passe let Hymnes be ratled out Spend Frankincense and let the nose of God be stretched wide With pleasant smoke doe this and adde more honour much beside That he preserue your goodly life wherein doth you torment Somtime great cold and somtime heate now plague now famishment Now bloody warre now sicknesse great or Chance to sorrow at Sometime the busie Flie sometime the stinging Gnat The Chynch and Flea reioyce I say that heere you lead your life With thousand painefull labours great in trauaile toyle and strife And after in a litle space in paine you drop away And lumpish lie in loath some Vault to Wormes a gratefull prey O worthy life O goodly gift Man in this world is bred Among the brutish Beastes and fooles and knaues his life is led Where Stormes and flakie Snows Ice and Durt and Dust and Night And harmfull aire and clowds mistes and windes with hellish fight And griefe and wayling raignes where death beside doth worke his feat Is this our goodly Countrie heere Is this our happy seate For which we owe such seruice heere vnto the Gods aboue For which it seemeth meete with vowes the heauenly Saintes to moone And if none other life we haue then this of body vaine So frayle and full of filthinesse when Death hath Carcasse slaine I see not why such Prayses should of God resound in Ayre For why we should such honour giue to him in Temples fayre That hath vs wretches framed heere in this so wretched soyle That shall for euermore decay after so great a toyle Wherfore least God should seeme vniust and full of cruelnesse Shall well deseruing counted be we must of force confesse That Death doth not destroy the Soule but that it alwayes is None otherwise then Spirit in Ayre or Saintes in heauens blisse Both voyde of body sleepe and meate And more we must confesse That after death they liue in paines or else in blessednesse But let this reason thee suffice for if thou doe it show Vnto the wicked kind they laugh no light the blind doth know But thou beleeue for euermore and know assuredly For ground of sauing health it is that Soules doe neuer die Exempted from the Sisters power and fatall Destinie Palingenius in Libra We need not doubt but Soule proceedes and doth from loue descend And neuer dies whom he permits the World to comprehend What if so be the Atomies which some Wise men do fayne The Soule is rather thought to bee than body to maintaine All Bodyes be of quantitie and may deuided be But Soule is indiuisible and of no grosse degree And as a Centre doth she seeme where many Lines doe meete Which Senses all to her conuey as Floods to Seas doe fleete Wherefore I maruaile much at such as thinke a like decay And iudge the Soule no more to bee when Body fades away For if so be it might be prooude yet should it not be sayd Nor Publisht to the common sort nor euery way displayd For many wicked men and ill there are which if they thought Their Soules as nothing shall remaine when corps to graue is brought Nor that it feeles or suffers ought when it goeth hence away And that no punishment remaines for prancks that here they play A thousand mischifes would they doe take feare from them among And fall to euery vilonie confounding right with wrong Besides a number now that thinke in blessed state to bee When death hath them destroyd hope the face of God to see And euermore with him to ioy and therefore virtuously Doe seeke to passe their present life with godly modeslie If they shall see that after death
doe no rewardes remaine Amased all their virtuous workes shall cease and perish plaine So many stately Temples trimde so many Altars hie With Gold and Marble garnished and decked sumptuously Beside Religion Godly zeale Honour and worshipping Of God shall come to nought if after death remaine nothing That men may hope for if the Soule as Winde doth passe away Of wild and franticke common sort Religion must be stay And feare of smart for mischiuous and full of fraud their braine Is alwayes seene nor of themselues they well doe meane or plaine The common sort doe Virtue loath and euermore her hate Religion is the comlinesse and glorie of our state Which makes the Gods to fauour vs which we winne Heauen by No wise nor good man therefore dare attempt her openly To teach that Soule shal come to nought and so corrupt the mindes Of rude vnskilfull common sort that wauer like the windes Now must we teach by reason good that Soules shall neuer die But free from sting or dart of death doe liue eternally Which euery Christian man doth hold and Greshop eater Iew Who our foreskins abhorres beleeues which God that all thinges knew Would not haue made if he had thought they had been needlesse sure And Nations all besides do thinke that Soules shall aye endure For first the thing resembling most the mightiest Lord of all Of longer lasting life we count and perfecter must call For that which doth not long endure but shortly doth decay That it should be vnperfecter who is that will say nay And therefore do celestiall thinges a greater while endure Because they are more perfecter and more Diuine and pure But thinges that nearer are the earth and farthest off from skies Vnperfect since they are do fade and soonest euer dyes Shall then our Soule sith life in it and knowledge doth appeare Most like vnto the state Diuine be closde and shut vp heere With Body for to end Nor shall it heere haue longer place Then fading flesh Or shall it liue no more nor larger space Besides that Soules cannot decay this Reason witnesse shall Because it is of single state and voyde of matter all Adde this that when the Body fades the force of Minde doth grow As weake and aged Fathers old doe more good Counsell know Then youthful blouds of younger years and often he lacks wit That doth excell in strength and force for rare doth God permit Both strength and wit to any one Wherefore if force brought low By space and course of many yeares the Minde doth stronger grow Of Body doth it not depend but of it selfe consist Another thing and after Graue doth liue and death resist Doth not beside when foote doth ake the Minde iudge thereof plaine It is no doubt But how can griefe to towre of Minde attaine Doth it ascend from lowest partes as Smoke doth vpward flie No for many partes not foote alone if so should ake thereby Nor of the foote but of the part that nearest is to Minde The ake should grieue This shewes that Soule is not of Bodyes kind And is so free from death since it in distance needes no meane Adde this when we would call to minde the thing forgotten cleane Or else deuise some worthy fetch from Minde the Senses all It then behoues to gather vp whereby doth often fall That many better for to muse doe shut vp close their eyes Or else forsaking companie some secret place deuise Or whē the night with darksome cloude the earth doth ouer spread And creatures all with heauie sleepe do take their rest in bed They still do watch and silent all vpon their beds doe rest And light put out in darknesse whet their Minde with Body prest For Senses doe the Minde disturbe Affections it destroyes Amazing it with Dulnesse great and Blindnesse it annoyes None otherwise then Cloudes do hide the Sunne that clearely shines If therefore when it doth remaine within his owne confines And flying farre from Senses all and cares that Body bringes It wiser be then shall it know and vnderstand all thinges In better sort when it is free and from the flesh doth flie More perfect of it selfe it is and liues continually Againe sith Man as Meane consistes the Saintes and Beastes betwixt Some part with each he common holds with Beast his Body mixt And with the Saintes his Minde agrees one of these partes doth die Of th' other death can haue no power but liues continually Death therefore takes not all away for why his deadly dartes Doe neuer harme the Soule a whit when it from Body partes And more then this I haue to say if nothing doe remaine Of vs when Carcasse lyes in Tombe God shall be called plaine Vniust and one that fauour shewes to such as naughtie liue For such for tearme of all their life no Sorrowes do them grieue No Ritches lacke nor Pleasures great but happily reioyce Exalted with Promotions hie and with the Commons voyce On th' other side the Virtuous men a thousand Griefes molest now sore diseasd now plagu'd with need In fine alwayes opprest Therefore the Soule liues after graue and feeles deserued paynes And if it haue done iustly heere a Crowne of Glorie gaines By these and many other wayes I could declare no doubt That Soule of man doth neuer die and Body liues without But thi 's enough time bids me end Not ignorant am I That some the soule although vnapt doe tearme an Harmonie And as of sundry voyces mou'd proceedes a melodie Of sundry Compounds Medcine made which heale with soueraigntie So of the ioyned Elements by certaine meane and way Created of the Heauens eke the Soule to be some say A part whereof in Body dwels and part abroad doth lie As sight doth spring of outward light and virtue of the eye But this opinion is not true for if it should be so The Soule with flesh should neuer striue nor once against it goe But euermore in one agree As euery power doth show That wonted are of mixed thinges By spirit Diuine to grow As in the kind of Hearbes appeares and in the precious Stone Some thinke the Soule doth not remaine when flesh from it is gone Because the heauie sluggish sleepe the nearest thing that may Resembles Death and seemes to take both Sense and Minde away Or for because they see the Minde with sicknesse diuersly So vext and harmd that it cannot the place it hath supply And with the Body to encrease with which it eke decayes As well appeares in Children young and men of elder dayes Fond is the child the man discreete the old man doteth still For weake vnwealdie withered age doth Minde and Body spill And more say they if that the Soule of substaunce be Diuine And seuered from these fleshly limmes may lead a life more fine Then why should it in wretched flesh so seeke it selfe to place by whose defect so many illes and mischifes it deface But fond she is therefore if that
she doe this willingly And if perforce she be compeld in Carcasse caue to lie Who doth constraine doth God himselfe then her he nought esteemes Nay what in Prison vile he puts to hate he rather seemes More of it selfe except it learne sith it doth nothing know And oftentimes forgetfulnesse the Minde doth ouerthrow Therefore they iudge it nothing is when Body heere doth die For learne it cannot senses dead which it knowes all thinges by Some other say that Soule there is in all the World but one Which giueth life to euery thing as Sunne but one alone There is that makes all eyes to see Eternall thinke they this Though Body die or eyes put out the Sunne eternall is These trifles fond it is not hard with Reason to disprooue But heere I longer am I feare then it doth mee behooue There shall not want that such demands shall answere once at full And all the doubtes therein assoyle and knots asunder pull O man of sharpe and pregnant wit thy prayse shall liue with mine Our labours doubt not shall commend the men of later time Thy famous workes attempt and seedes of Heauen on Earth goe sow This one thing will I more put to that euery man may know The Soule Immortall for to be and sprung of Heauenly grace If Senses and Affections all he will restraine a space If that despising worldly ioyes and earthly thought resignde With dayly labour he attempt to God to lift his minde Then perfect Wisedome shall he haue and thinges to come foretell A wake or else in heauie sleepe perceiue the same as well In this sort did the Prophets old the thinges to come declare The sober minde therefore doth come more neare to heauenly fare The farther from the flesh it flies and from the earthly care But like to Beastes the greatest sort doth liue as sense doth will And thinke none other good to be but flesh to haue his fill Hereof it comes that many thinke the Soule with Body dyes Because they see not thinges Diui●e with weake and fleshly eyes But of the Soule this shall suffice Palengenius in Pisces ANd when escapt from mortall chaine the Soule hath passage straight Conueighing with her selfe these three that alwayes on her waite The Minde the Sense Moouing force vnto the Heauens hie Shall ioyfull goe and there remaine in blisse perpetually Matheus Dresserus libro de Anima A Confirmation of the Immortalitie of the Soule THe Sentence of the Soules immortalitie is twofold 1. Philosophicall 2. Theologicall What is the opinion of Philosophers touching the Immortalitie of the Soule Some affirme that the Soule doth die with the Body Others do hold that after the separation of the Body it remayneth aliue and immortall The Argument of Panaetius What soeuer is bred or hath a certaine beginning The same also dieth or hath a cetraine ending But the Soule is bred or hath a certaine beginning Therfore the Soule dieth or hath a certaine ending The Answere The Maior is to be distinguished for some thinges are bred or haue their beginning of the Elementes and doe die againe But others haue a Celestiall and Diuine originall as the Soule which doth not die Thinges that are borne bred or haue beginning are of two sortes Some are Elementarie some Celestiall The Elementarie doe die or perish But the Celestiall doe not die or perish But on the contrarie part Cicero Plato and Xenophon haue iudged the Soule to be Immortall and they prooue it thus 1. Because the originall and nature thereof is Diuine or as the Pythagoreans said the Soule is drawen from the vniuersall Heauenly minde Cicero in 1 Tuscul That which is Diuine that doth not die The Soule is Diuine Ergo The Soule doth not die 2 Because vnto the Soule there is nothing mixt nothing concrete i. the Minde and Soule is not compounded of the Elementes therefore it can not die with the thinges that are compounded of the Elementes Whatsoeuer is compounded the same is conflated or compounded of the Elementes But the Soule is not compound of the Elements Therefore the Soule doth not die 3 Because the workes or effectes of the Minde are Diuine and Celestiall as to perceiue and know thinges past and to come therefore the Minde it selfe also is Celestiall and Incorruptible As is the effect so is the cause But the effectes of the Soule are Diuine Therefore the Soule is also Diuine 4 Because the order of Diuine iustice doth require that rewardes be giuen to Iust and punishments to the Vniust But in this life there often chance no rewardes to the Iust nor punishmentes to the Wicked therefore after this life there remayneth another life wherein it shall goe well with the Godly and ill with the wicked 5 Plato in Exiocho saith Discessus ex hac vita est mutatio mali in bonum that is to say The departing out of this life is a changing of euill into good Therefore after death the Soule also liueth and somewhere remayneth aliue that it may enioy that so great a good Of the Place of the Soule after the separation from the Body SOcrates thought that the Soule when it departeth from the Body doth returne to Heauen from whence it is sprinckled strowed into mans Body But Philosophie doth plainely deny and is vtterly ignoraunt that the Soule shall be ioyned togeather to the Body at the vniuersall raysing againe of the dead Cicero also although he did excellently dispute many thinges of the Soules Diuinitie yet he confesseth that he is in very great doubt and staggering euen as the Shippe is tossed in the middes of the raging Seas And Atticus sayth That hee while he readeth Platos Phaedo doth truely Assent that is to say Approoue the Opinion of the Immortalitie of the Soule But when he had layde the Booke away and beganne to cogitate with himselfe then that Assent slided away Socrates when hee was going to his death sayth in Plato It is time for mee now to goe away from hence that I may die and you liue but whether is better God knoweth I thinke truely no man knoweth There was a Philosopher of great Authoritie who being called to end his life was verie sore vexed in minde doubting of the flitting or departure in what state his soule should be after death And when he found no other Hauen he sent for two Philosophers and bade them dispute of the condition of the Soule after the departure foorth of the Body saying Loe I must flitte hence away forsake this mortall life wherefore tell yee mee what shall become of mee whether my Soule shall liue when this Body is extinct or no for vnlesse this can be prooued vnto me and I therein perswaded with what minde can I depart out of this life Heere the Philosophers began sharply to contende about the Nature of the Soule and the one reason'd it to be Mortall and the other Immortall And when they had a long time disputed neither part preuailing
Philosophers on all sides rested because of their probable probations and sometime for the assertions of their formors because of necessarie reason And in the same Chapter De alijs astris dicunt Aegiptij et Babilonicj c. Of other Starres doe speake the Aegiptians and Babilonians from whom wee haue many thinges that wee doe beleeue of euery our of those Starres But in the sciences of Astrologie and Astronomie haue flourished the sonnes of Seth Noe Abraham Salomon and the holy Fathers which haue taught Philosophers of secrets Celestiall and Diuine vnto the which they could not haue attained by humaine strength and naturall reason But Iosephus in the first Booke of the Antiquities of the Iewes sayth That Seth when he came to that age that could discerne good thinges gaue him selfe to the studie of Virtue and when he was become an excellent man he left his Sonnes to be followers of himselfe they all being the Sonnes of a good Father tarryed in the same Land liuing most happily without any vexation and first found out the discipline and learning of thinges Celestiall and the trimnesse of them And least they should slide away from men and vtterly perish seeing they had learned of Adam that there should be one extermination of all thinges by Fire and an other by the power and force of Water they made two Pillars one of Brasse and an other of Stone and wrote therein what they had found out of Celestiall thinges that they might leaue vnto men the knowledge of Celestiall secrets And in the Secrets of Secrets it is said That the glorious GOD hath ordained the meane and remedie to temper Humors and preserue Health and how to get many other thinges And hath reuealed it to Prophets and Holy men and others whom he fore-chose and illustrated with the spirit of his Wisedome Of these the men that followed had the beginning and originall of Philosophie Aegiptians Greekes Latines from whom the latter haue drawne and written the principles of Artes and Sciences And sayth he to Alexander it is meete and worthy that he know noble Phisicke which is sayd to be a glory inestimable and is called The Treasure of Philosophers I truely haue neuer truely or perfectly enough learned it neither doe I know who it was that inuented it Some affirme that Adam was the inuentor thereof Some say that it was Esculapius and Hermogenes the Phisition Hirsos and Domasti●● and Mati●dos hebrewes and Dioris and Carus glorious Philosophers Many say that Henooh by a vision knew this secret whom many will haue to be that great Hermogenes whom the Greekes do prayse and to him commend all Science secret celestiall Wherefore in the Prologue of the Books of Hermes Mercurius Triplex Trismegistus it is thus sayd We read in old Histories of Diuines that there were Three Philosophers whereof the first was Henoch who is also called Hermes and Mercurie The second Noe who was called Hermes for he as Albumuzar witnesseth was a great Prophet and first builded peopled Babilon after the Flood and instructed them in knowledge and learning His sonne Sem also taught the Babilonians or Caldeans and deliuered vnto them the science of the Starres The third was called Hermes Mercurius Triplex because he was a King a Philosopher a Prophet hee flourished after the Flood with great equitie gouerned the Kingdome of Aegipt and clearely brightened Astronomie And in the Booke of the Death of Aristotle it is said that After Noe was Abraham borne who being wiser then all did thorowly come to the great degree of Philosophie for he knew that Sol and Luna had a first moouer and therefore he followed not the way of his Father neither of his Kindred that worshipped Idols But as Josephus witnesseth in his Booke of the Antiquities of the Iewes hee preuayled to change innouate that opinion which then all had of God for hee first presumed to pronounce God one God to be the only Creator of all things for he according to the Histories of the Caldeans taught the Aegiptians Arithmeticke and also Astronomie These and many other secrets were planted in Aegipt which are knowne to haue come to the Greekes By the doctrines therefore of these Fathers illuminated from Heauen the Philosophers that came after being informed as it were strengthned by the Oracles of Prophets haue conscribed many glorious Sciences which they could not attaine vnto by the force of mans witte Did not Plato goe into Aegipt to learne Astrologie And there as it is thought of all for the most part hee learned what great thinges soeuer were there had and taught And chiefely these things which are knowne to be agreeing to our Fayth Not that Hieremias as some suppose saw or read the Translation of the Seauentie For Plato was borne almost an hundred yeares from the time that Jeremie prophecied Who seeing that he liued fourescore yeares and one from the yeare of his death to the translation of the seauentie Interpreaters are found threescore yeares Wherefore Ieremie could neither see nor read the Translation of the holy Scriptures seeing hee was dead so long before they were translated into the Greeke tongue But because he was a man of a very sharpe witte as the Aegiptians are hee so did learne the foresayd holy Scriptures by an Interpreater as those thinges in Timaeo which hee there wrote of the trueth of our Religion doe witnesse Out of Aegipt they say that Plato came into Italie and there learned all the doctrine of Pythagoras But of the Immortalitie of mens Soules hee did not onely perceiue and know the same that Pythagoras did but also brought and added thereunto reasons which they afore him in a maner did not Whose Booke of the Immortalitie of the Soule a worke most elegant Cato the later before hee flew himselfe did twise read ouer as Plutarch reporteth which when hee had read he so departed this life that he reioyced that he was borne to the end to die so great surely was the force and power of this Booke to perswade the Immortalitie of mens mindes that Therebrotus a certaine man of Ambrochia when no aduersitie would befall him to end his life he got him vp vpon a very high Wall and cast himselfe into the Sea after that he had read the foresayd Booke of Plato of whom Saint Augustine in his first Booke De ciuitate Dej and the 22. chapter writeth thus Therebrotus libro Platonis vbi de immortalitate animae disputauit se praecipitem dedit e muro vt sic ab ista vita migraret ad eandem quam credidit mehorem 1. Therebrotus when he had read ouer the Booke of Plato where he hath disputed of the Immortalitie of the Soule cast himselfe downe headlong from a Wall that so he might flit away from this life vnto that same which he beleeued to be better The third Conclusion BY vndoubted Fayth and Beliefe it is to be holden that the Soule of euery man is Immortall And
Goe to sayth the sicke man all sorrowfull I shall now prooue whether of you doth thinke more rightly But Theologie doth discreetly affirme both that the Soule is Immortall and also that it shall at length returne into the tabernacle of the Body doth name the very place also wherein the Soule shall remaine be kept vntill the last Iudgement That the Soule doth not die is thus prooued by the holy Scriptures 1 BEcause it is a Spirit which cannot die Gen. 2. Math. 10. Doe not feare those that can kill the Body but cannot kill the Soule Gen. 2. Hee breathed into him the breath of life 2 Because God is the God of the liuing God is the God of Abraham Therefore Abraham liueth although his body be dead Mat. 22. 3 From Examples Moses and Elias talked with Christ in Mount Thabor Luk. 9. although Moses was dead a thousand and fiue hundred yeares before Ergo they liue 4 From the testimonie of Christ Ion. 11. Hee that beleeueth in me he shall not die for euer Therefore the Soule is not extinguished but liueth alwayes 5 There is also a firme Argument from the Cause vnto the Effect or from the nature of Relatiues Christ is risen and liueth Christ is our Author and Head Therefore we also shall rise againe And the Soule at length coupled with the Body shall liue for euer For what is of force in Christ the same must needes also auaile in his members 1. Cor. 15. Now that the Body being renewed shall of vs be recciued againe in the resurrection of the dead the testimonie of Job in the 19 chap. teacheth plainely I know that my Redeemer liueth and that I shall rise againe out of the Earth in the last day and shall see God in my flesh The Place or Seate into the which the Soule doth flitte being loosed from the fetters of the Body and resteth in the same is called Paradise Luk. 23. The bosome of Abraham Luk. 16. The hand of God Sap. 3. Scheol 1. Hell Gen. 43. The Immortalitie of the Soule prooued by manifest places of the holy Scriptures 1. Numbers 23.10 I Pray God I may die the death of the Righteous and let my last end be like his 2. Psal 84.1 2 4 10. 1. O how amiable are thy Tabernacles o Lord of Hostes 2. My Soule longeth yea and fainteth for the Courtes of the Lord for my heart and my flesh reioyce in the liuing God 4. Blessed are they that dwell in thy House they will euer praise thee Selah 10. One day in thy Courtes is better then a thousand other where I had rather be a Dore-keeper in the house of my God then to dwell in the Tabernacles of Wickednesse 3. Ejay 51.6.11 6. Lift vp your eyes to the Heauens and looke vpon the Earth beneath for the Heauens shall vanish away like smoake and the Earth shall waxe old like a garment and they that dwel therein shall perish in like maner but my saluation shal be for euer and my righteousnesse shall not be abolished 11 The redeemed of the Lord shall returne and come with ioy vnto Zion and euerlasting ioy shal be vpon their head they shall obtaine ioy and gladnesse and sorrow and mourning shal be away 4. Esaj 32.18 My people shall dwell in peace and in sure dwellinges in safe resting places in assurance for euer 5. Esaj 49.10 They shall not be hungry neither shall they be thirstie neither shall the heate smite them nor the Sunne for he that hath compassion on them shall lead them euen to the springes of waters shall he driue them 6. Esaj 65.17.18 17 Loe I will create new Heauens and a new Earth and the former shall not be remembred nor come into minde 18 But be you glad and reioyce for euer in the thinges that I shall create 7. Dan. 12 1.2.3 And at that time shall Michael stand vp the great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people and there shall be a time of trouble such as neuer was since the time that there began to be a Nation vntill the same time And at that time thy people shall be deliuered euery one that shall be found written in the Booke 2 And many of them that sleepe in the dust of the Earth shall awake some to euerlasting life and some to shame and perpetuall contempt 3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightnesse of the Firmament and they that turne many to righteousnesse shall shine as the Starres for euer euer 8. 2. Esaras 2.35.36.37 Be readie to the reward of the Kingdome for the euerlasting light shall shine vpon you for euermore 36 Flee the shadow of this world receiue the ioy of your glorie I testifie my Sauiour openly 37 Receiue the gift that is giuen you and be glad giuing thankes vnto him that hath called you to the Heauenly kingdome 9. Sap. 3. The Soules of the righteous are in the hand of God and the paine of death shall not touch them In the sight of the vnwise they appeare to die c. Yet is their hope full of Immortalitie c. 10. Sap. 5. The Faythfull are counted among the Children of God and their portion is among the Saintes The Righteous shall liue for euermore their reward also is with the Lord and their remembraunce with the highest Therefore shall they receiue a glorious Kingdome a beautifull Crowne of the Lords hand 11. Tob. 3. O Lord deale with me according to thy will and commaund my spirit to be receiued in peace 12. Ecclesiastes 7. The day of death is better then the day of birth For precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of this Saintes saith the Psalmist in the 116. Psalme 13. Mat. 13.43 Then shall the Iust men shine as the Sunne in the Kingdome of their father 14. Mat. 19.29 They shall inherite euerlasting life 15. Mat. 25.34 Come ye blessed Children of my Father inherite the Kingdome prepared for you from the beginning of the world 16. Mat. 22.29.30.31.32 29 Yee are deceiued not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God 30 For in the Resurrection they neither marrie Wiues nor Wiues are bestowed in marriage but are as the Angels of God in Heauen 31 And concerning the Resurrection of the dead haue yee not read what is spoken vnto you of God saying 32 I am the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Iacob God is not the God of the dead but of the liuing 17. The same is recorded in the 12. of Marke vers 24 25 26 27. By all which places it is a plaine consequent that the Soule is Immortall 18. Luk. 16.22 Lazarus is said to be caried into Abrahams Bosome Now what Abrahams Bosome is let venerable Beda witnesse against the Papistes that so much boast of him who in his Homilie on the Gospell for the first Sunday after Trinitie writeth thus Sinus Abraham requies heatorum pauperum quorum est regnum coelorum quo post
hanc vitam recipiuntur That is Abrahams Bosome is the rest of the blessed poore whose is the kingdome of heauē whither after this life they are receiued So by the iudgement of Beda agreeing with the trueth Abrahams Bosome is the Kingdome of Heauen with Lazarus was caried Out of the same place also it is apparent concerning the Soules of the Wicked For the Rich Glutton is sayd on the contrarie to be carried downe into Hell Therefore the Soules liue after the Body 19. Luk. 23.43 Christ hanging on the Crosse said vnto the Thiefe This day shalt thou be with mee in Paradise Now that Paradise is Heauen is prooued by Saint Paul in the 2. Cor. 12. 1 2 3 4. where he sayth He was taken vp into the third Heauen which hee calleth Paradise But the Thiefe could not be with Christ in Paradise in the Body because that was dead buried Therefore his Soule was with Christs in Paradise and so consequently the Soule liueth and is Immortall 20. Luk. 23.46 Father into thy hands I commende my spirit 21. John 16. Your ioy shall no man take from you 22. John 5.24 Hee that heareth my word and beleeueth in him that sent me hath euerlasting life shal not come into condemnation but hath passed from death to life 23. Joe 6.54 Whosoeuer eateth my flesh and drinketh my Blood hath eternall life and I will raise him vp at the last day 24. Joh. 11.26 Who soeuer liueth and beleeueth in mee shall neuer die 25. 1. Cor. 2. The eye hath not seene neither eare hath heard neither can it enter into mans heart what thinges God hath prepared for them that loue him 26. 2. Cor. 5.8 8 We loue rather to remoue out of the Body to dwell with the Lord Wherefore the Soules sleepe not as some Anabaptistes will haue them but inioy Immortall life celestiall glory with God 27. Phil. 1.23 I desire to be loosed and to be with Christ He speaketh of the rest and ioy which he should inioy with Christ But they who feele nothing what can their ioy or happinesse be Wherefore they also are refuted in this poynt that say That mens Soules sleepe and so withall denie the Immortalitie of the Soule 28. 1. Thes 4. So shall we euer be with the Lord. 29. Reuel 2. To him that ouercommeth will I giue to eate of the Tree of Life which is in the middest of the Paradise of God Be faythfull vnto the death and I shall giue thee the Crowne of life Reue. 3. Him that ouercommeth will I make a Pillar in the Temple of God and he shall goe no more out To him that ouercommeth will I graunt to sit with me in my seate 31. Reu. 4. The 24. Elders that sate on the Seates were clothed in White rayment and had on their heades Crownes of Gold 32. Reu. 7.15 16 17. 15 They are in the presence of the Throne of God and serue him day and night in his Temple and he that sitteth on the Throne will dwell among them 16 They shall hunger no more neither thirst any more neither shall the Sunne light on them neither any heate 17 For the Lame which is in the middest of the Throne shall gouerne them and shall lead them vnto the liuely Fountaines of waters and God shall wipe away all teares from their eyes 1. Cor. 15.19 If in this life onely we hope in Christ then are we most miserable of all men If Christians in this life onely do hope in Christ 1. If they hope of Christ for the blessednesse of this life onely and not of one to come then are they most miserable of all men But Christians are not most miserable of all men Ergo they do not looke or hope of Christ for the blessednesse of this life onely but also of the life to come and by a consequent they shall rise from the dead that they may be partakers of that blessednesse in an other life These testimonies of Scriptures doe teach and confirme most euidently that not onely in the Body before death and after the resurrection of the Body but also in the whole space and time comming betweene the Soules are liue feele vnderstand out of the Body though the manner of their operations be to vs vnknowne Wherefore also this gift of Immortalitie hath some similitude with God who alone is the onely fountaine of life hath Immortalitie as sayth Paul 1 Tim. 6.16 The Aduersaries of this Trueth the deare dearelings of the Diuell fighting with weapons of their graund Captaine Sathan euen as he in tempting our Sauiour Christ wrested the Scriptures to his purpose euen so they peruerting the true sense alleadge sundry places of the Scriptures to disprooue the Immortalitie of the Soule and to approoue their owne wicked assertion that the Soule is Mortall Of which hellish Champions and their vaine and wicked not reasons but wordes I with a reproofe will bring a double disproofe and so thereby giue our side a stronger approofe by enterpreating their false alleadged places according to the right sense and meaning 1. Gen. 2. In the day that thou eatest of the Tree of knowledge of Good and Euill thou shalt die the death Loe say they the death of Body and Soule both Answere interpreating the place The Lord in this Scripture doth not threaten to Man the destruction or extinguishing of his Soule but eternall Death that is the horrible feeling and terrour of Gods wrath and iudgement and to liue forsaken and cast off from God subiect to all miseries torments vnto the which eternall death the separation and parting asunder of the Soule and Body by temporall death is an adiunct which at that time through Gods mercie was deferred that that mankind might be saued For so was Adam dead while he yet liued in Paradise euen so soone as euer he had eaten the forbidden Fruite So in eternall death liue all the damned and reprobate whose Fire shall not be put out and their Worme shall neuer die So in the second to the Ephesians are they sayd To be dead through sinne that liue in sinne without repentance And Ephes 5. Hee who from sinne is reclaymed to God is willed to rise from the dead And Rom. 7.5 Paul saith That through the knowledge of sinne and the wrath of God hee was dead 2. Eccles. 3.19 19 The condition of the Children of men and the condition of Beastes are euen as one condition to them As the one dyeth so dyeth the other for they haue all one breath and there is no excellencie of Man aboue the Beast for all is Vanitie 20 All goe to one place and all was dust shall returne to the dust Therfore the Soule is not Immortall Answere interpreating Heere they are deceiued by a fallation taking that to be spoken simply which is but secundum quid i. in some fort or in some respect For the Preacher doth not simply say That Men die as Beastes and so doe vtterly perish for
this sense cantradicteth other Scriptures But in two respectes the death of Men and the death of Beastes are like 1. Because Men must needes once die and depart out of this life because Men are not heere to continue for euer nor haue heere a setled place 2. Men die as Beastes that is In the sense and iudgement of the Wicked they seeme to perish 3. Psal 78.39 Hee remembred that they were but flesh yea a winde that passeth away and commeth not againe Ergo Mortall Answere By these and such like speaches is described and be wayled the frayltie of all humaine affaires that with God doe perish and come to nothing For as in this place they are likened to a Winde that soone vanisheth away so in Psal 103. they are compared to Dust Earth and Flowers of the field So Iob. 14. Man commeth vp as a Flower and is cutte downe Isa 40.6 All flesh is grasse 4. Psal 88.5 I am counted as slaine lying in the Graue whom thou remembrest no more Answere In these wordes the Psalmist doth not meane that either hee himselfe or the dead are exempted from Gods prouidence But hee complayneth that hee is forsaken of God euen as it seemeth to men that God careth not for the dead And therefore hee speaketh not according to the sense of Fayth but of his owne opinion weaknesse and miserie who iudgeth those thinges to be forsakèn and neglected of God whose deliuerie for a while he doth deferre But what Fayth in the meane season doth suggest and tell the Godly euen when they striue and wrastle with temptation he sheweth in the ii Psal and vers 2. The iust shall be had in an euerlasting remembrance 5. Psal 146.4 His Spirit departeth and returneth to his earth and then all his thoughtes perish Ergo. c. Answere Hee doth not heere say That the Spirit or Soule of men doth not die or vanish or is bereaued of sense But that it departeth to witte from the Body wherein it dwelleth and that not the Spirit but the Body returneth to earth which was made of earth And where he sayth That all his thoughtes perish he meaneth not that the Soule is after this life bereaued of Reason Iudgement and Sense of Gods mercie or wrath but that mans Purposes and Counsailes are made frustrate which in his life he had setled him selfe to bring to passe In which sense it is sayd in Psal 112.10 The desire of the Wicked shall perish 6. Psal 88. 10. Wilt thou shew a miracle to the dead Or shall the dead rise and prayse thee Whereunto we adde all such places as take away worshipping of God from the dead which must needes prooue the Soule not Immortall Answere In such speaches Death and Hell or the Graue haue two significations They who are spiritually dead whether before or after the death of the Body that is they that are depriued of Gods grace and forsaken and reiected of God and are in Hell that is in the place and tormentes of the Damned or else in this life despayring and destitute of comfort shall not prayse God at all neither in this life nor in the life to come But they who are dead not spiritually but corporally onely although they shall not prayse God while their Bodyes are in Hell that is in the Graue for which this word Hell is often vsed in the Scriptures yet in Soule they shall not ceasse to acknowledge and prayse God vntill when they haue receiued their Bodyes againe they shall magnifie him both in Soule and Body in the Celestiall eternitie But in the meane time sith God will be acknowledged and magnified of men in this life also therefore both the whole Church and euery one of the faythfull not onely pray that they may not fall into that forsaking and that sense of Gods wrath wherewith the Wicked are oppressed but also desire that they may be preserued and defended in this mortall life vntill the end thereof appoynted by God be expired for the Saintes doe not simply stand in feare of the bodily Death and Graue but that they may not be forsaken of God neither fall into desperation or destruction or their enimies insult against God when they are ouerthrowne This with dayly and ardent prayers and petitions they begge and craue continually 7. Psal 146. 2. I will prayse the Lord during my life as long as I haue any beeing I will sing vnto my God Heere hee restreyneth prayses to this life onely Answere This place maketh nothing to the purpose For he doth not limit prayses to this life but this he onely sayth that he will spend all the time of this mortall life in Gods prayses which notwithstanding in many other places he extendeth to continuall eternitie as Psal 34. I will prayse the Lord continually But often times this particle Vntill or As long signifieth a continuance of the time going before some euent without any excluding of the time following as 1. Cor. 15.25 Hee must raigne Vntill hee hath put all his enimies vnder his feete I thinke they will not say that when Christes enimies are put vnder his feete that then he shall raigne no longer 8. Job 10.20 Let him ceasse and leaue off from mee that I may take a little comfort before I goe and shall not returne Ergo the Soule is Mortall there is no Resurrection Answere In these wordes he denyeth that hee shall returne into this Mortall life and conuerse amongst men in this World But he denieth not that he in the meane season hath his beeing and doth liue vntill againe he see God in the flesh euen the same Iob who then was afflicted as himselfe sayth chap. 19.26 9. Iob. 3.11 Why died I not when I came out of the Wombe so should I haue lyen quiet and been at rest Answere Iob in these wordes doth not denie that the Soules after death doe liue feele and vnderstand but onely he sayth the Miseries of this present life are not felt Instance Iob would not wish for a bad change but if there be euils felt in the life to come hee wished for a badde change Ergo. c. Answere Iob wished not for the death of the wicked but of the godly Instance But Job maketh Kinges and Princes also which gather Gold vnto them vers 14.15 small and great good and badde vers 16 17 18 19. partakers of this rest Answere It plainely appeareth out of the whole processe and discourse of Jobs wordes that he doth not teach what is the state of men after this life but onely desireth to be ridde out of his present miserie And therefore through humaine infirmitie and impatience he compareth the sense and feeling of his present miseries with the death and state of the Dead whatsoeuer it be As they who are grieuously tormented with present Distresses and Calamities preferre any thing whatsoeuer before that which they suffer So also he sayth in the 7. chap. speaking as one despayring of deliuerie in this life Remember
that my life is but a winde and that mine eye shall not returne to see pleasure For so hee expoundeth himselfe when hee addeth vers 10. Hee shall returne no more to his house neither shall his place know him any more So likewise in the 17. chap. My breath is corrupt my dayes are corrupt the Graue is readie for mee They are wordes of one despayring of life saluation God being wroth and angrie 10. Job 34.14.15 14 If he set his heart vpon man and gather vnto himselfe his spirit and his breath 15. All flesh shall perish togeather and man shall returne vnto dust Answere Job doth not heere say that the Soule doth either sleepe or perish but that by the departure of the Soule from the Bodie the Bodie dieth and is dissolued yet not that the Body doth vtterly perish for so it should repugne other plaine places that warrant the Resurrection 11. Job 14.12 Man sleepeth and riseth not for hee shall not wake againe nor be raised from his sleepe till the Heauen be no more 12. Act. 7.60 And when he had thus spoken he fell asleepe 13. 1. Cor. 15.51 We shall not all sleepe but we shal be all changed 14. 1. Thes 4.13 I would not haue you ignoraunt concerning them which are asleepe In these places the dead are sayd to sleepe Ergo The Soule sleepeth Answere In these and such like places is vsed a figure of speach called Synecdoche translating that which is proper vnto the Bodie to the whole man For that this belongeth to the Body which is to be recalled from death to life as it were to awake from sleepe many places of Scripture declare As Iob. 7. Behold now I sleepe in the dust For not the Soule but the Body onely sleepeth in the dust or Graue 15. Mat. 24.46 Blessed is that Seruant whom his Maister when he commeth shall find so doing 16. Mat. 25.34 Come ye blessed of my Father inherite the Kingdome 17. Mark 13.13 13 And yee shal be hated of all men for my names sake But whosoeuer shall endure vnto the ende the same shall be saued 27 And he shall then send his Angles and gather to geather his elect from the foure Windes 18. Dan. 12.1.2 1 And at that time my people shal be deliuered euery one that shal be found written in the Booke 2 And many of them that sleepe in the dust of the earth shall awake some to euerlasting life c. These places doe plainely shew that Blessednesse and the Kingdome promised to the godly shall then first fall vnto them at the last day Ergo Soules go not presently to heauen after death of the Body Answere Those places doe not shew that But they shew that at the last day when the Bodies shal be raised vp againe the Soules that alreadie are in Heauen shall by being ioyned to the bodyes againe haue their felicitie and glory consummated and made absolute For so we pray Thy Kingdome come when yet now God also raigneth in vs. 19. 1. Cor. 15.19 If in this life onely we haue Hope we are of all men most miserable Of this place they reason thus Hee that is blessed and happy before the Resurrection is not without the Resurrection most miserable But wee without the Resurrection should be of all men most miserable Ergo wee are not before the Resurrection blessed and happie Answere To the Maior we answere That he is not miserable without the Resurrection who can not onely before it but without it also be blessed But we are in such wise blessed before it that notwithstanding without it following and ensuing we can not enioy that former blessednesse because that God with so inseparable a knot hath ioyned togeather the beginning proceeding and finishing or perfectiō of the Electes blessednesse that none can haue the beginning who must not come to the end and consummation thereof Wherefore we must rise againe or we must want also the Celestiall blessednesse before the Resurrection Rom. 8.11 If the spirit of him that raysed vp Iesus from the dead dwell in you hee that raysed vp Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortall Bodies 20. Heb. 11.39 These all through Fayth are dead and receiued not the Promise Therefore they receiued not their Countrie Answere Although when they died they had not found their Countrie yet would it not follow of these wordes that they are not at all or haue no sense after death for he that is not or hath no sense seeketh not his Countrie Secondly it is not there spoken of the life after death which is ledde in the Celestiall countrie spoken of in 2. Cor. 5. from vers 1. vnto 10. but of this life in which the faythfull walking their pilgrimage sought for the Celestiall countrie not finding their Countrie on Earth 21. If presently after death the godly were blessed then iniurie was done vnto them who were called againe into this mortall life Answere It was not iniurions to them seeing God is debtor to no man God did raise them vp for the manifesting of his glorie Now what can happen better or more acceptable vnto the Godly then to serue for the manifesting of his glory either by life or by death Therefore there was no iniurie done vnto them Phil. 1. As alwayes so now Christ shall be magnified in my Body whether it be by life or by death c. 22. The Soule hath neither sense nor action but by bodily instrumentes and therefore being naked of those instrumentes it is also destitute of sense motion and operation Answeré Although we graunt the Antecedent that the Soules action and sense is by the instrumentes of the Body while it is in the Body before this naturall or corporal death yet notwithstanding that it is not so with the Soule after death when it is freed from the Body both learned Philosophers doe confesse and the word of God testifieth 1. Cor. 13.9 Wee know in part and wee prophecie in part but when that which is perfect is come then that which is in part shal be abolished ¶ Thus I hope are sufficiently disprooned those wicked Aduersaries of this knowne and necessarie Trueth The Soule is Immortall And the Scriptures falsely by them alleadged rightly and fully interpreted according to their true sense By which reproofe of the Aduersarie and disproofe of their cause the trueth is more approoued and stronglier confirmed For contraries by their contraries are euer made more manifest God giue the Trueth a speedie victorie in the heartes of his people that Errours may be beaten downe Sathan confounded and all our Enimies vanquished that we may triumph with our Captaine that Lion of the Tribe of luda our Lord Jesus Christ Athenagoras an Athenian and a Christian Philosopher flourished in the time of Marcus Aurelius Antoninus and Commodus Emperours of Rome within two hundred yeares after Christ and in his Booke of the Resurrection he reasoueth thus REasons touching thinges belonging to Mankind are some drawne