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B00623 The peoples plea for the exercise of prophesie. Against Mr. Iohn Yates his monopolie. / By Iohn Robinson. Robinson, John, 1575?-1625.; Yates, John, d. ca. 1660.; Brewster, William, 1566 or 7-1644, printer, attributed name. 1618 (1618) STC 21115A; ESTC S94919 38,827 88

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wherof himself is in his first argument to wit that his cōmission Apostolick was actually conferred upon him ioyntly with the rest Iohn 20.22.23 1. Now if the Commission Apostolike were but then given they were but then and not before actually Apostles except he will say they were Apostles before they had commission that is calling frō Christ so to bee I would now see how hee can salue the wound which he hath giuen himselfe 2. After that the Lord Iesus had Mat. 11.11 preferred Iohn Baptist aboue all the Prophets which were before him he yet ads in the same place that the least in the Kingdom of heauen is greater then hee The least i. the least Minister In the kingdom of heauen i. in the Church of the new testament properly called which began not till after the death of Christ who liued and dyed a member of the Iewish Church The Apostles then being officers of the Church of the new testament and Kingdome of heauen and not of the old or Iewish Church it cannot bee that they were Apostles in act before Christs death except an adiunct can be before the subiect and an officer before the corporation in and of which he is an officer 3. Considering the ignorance of these disciples at that time in the main misteries of Christ of the nature of his kingdom his death and resurrection Math 20.21 Luke 24.20.21 c. Iohn 20.9 Mark 16.14 as also how vtterly vnfurnished they were of gifts befitting Apostolicall teaching for which as being an extraordinary dispensation that in the highest degree extraordinary and infallible reuelation and direction of the spirit was requisite wherewith they were but first as it seemeth sprinckled Iohn 20.22 and afterwards more plentifully filled at the day of Pentecost they were as fit for an Apostleship as Dauid was for Sauls armour which he could not weild nor go with 4. Besides if they had the office of Apostleship committed to them Math. 10. how was it that they continued not their ministration in that office but returneing after a few dayes to their master Christ continued with him as his disciples till his death Christ Iesus did not keepe a company of non-residents about him for his Chaplins as M. Yates insinuates against him Lastly we are expresly taught Eph. 4.8 11. When Christ ascended on high hee gaue gifts unto men Apostles Prophets c. The Apostles then were first given actually at the Lords ascension and vvere before onely designed to become Apostles or Apostles elect but not ordained nor possessed of any office and therefore preached and that vvith warrant from Christ without office The next Scripture is Luk. 8.39 by M. Yates thus opened Christ having delivered the man possessed bids him go and shew what great things God had done for him and it is sayd he went and preached that is if it be to their purpose by ordinary pains and study he preached the Gospel And with pitty upon us poore soules that cannot distinguish the publishing of a miracle and the gift hee should say the worke if hee distinguished as he ought of preaching he addeth that if Christ had minded to haue made him a publike preacher hee would first haue taken him with him and instructed him and then haue sent him abroad First let it be obserued that the word used by Mark for his preaching 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is the same word which is commonly used for the most solemne preaching that is by the Apostles and Evangelists Secondly Christ bids him Mark 5.19 Goe home and declare how great things the Lord had done for him and had had compassion on him and v. 20. he is said to haue published in Decapolis Luke hath it throughout the whole Citty how great things Iesus had done for him VVhich he doing what else did hee but preach publish and declare the great loue and mercy of God in and by Iesus Christ towards miserable sinners for the curing of their bodily and spiritual maladies Thirdly where he makes the publishing of this miracle and the preaching of the Gospell divers things and pitties us poore soules that we cannot distinguish between them as Christ bad the women of Ierusalem not to weep for him but for themselues so surely had he need to pitty not us herein but himselfe in his so great mistaking Are not the miracles of Christ storied in the Scriptures a maine part of the Gospell and the publishing of them a part of the preaching of the Gospell And when M. Yates opens and publishes a miracle of Christs as this man did doth he not as well and as truely preach the Gospell as at any other time Let the wise iudge who is to be pittied To shut up this poynt it is sayd Ioh. 20.30 that Iesus did many other signes c. and v. 31. But these are written that yee might beleeue that Iesus is the Christ the Sonne of God and that beleeving yee might haue life through his name The publishing then of the signes and miracles which Christ did is the preaching of faith in his name to salvation which this man therefore did especially amongst them which were not ignorant of the Law of Moses and promise of the Messiah to come which by his glorious miracles done by his own power and in his owne name he both declared and proved himselfe to be Ioh. 5.36 10.37.38 And where he ads that Christ gaue this man commission to doe that which he did but he admires who gaue ours any such authority I answer even the same Christ as then immediatly so now mediatly by those unto whom he hath given authority under himselfe for the ordering of the gifts of his spirit in his Church And sufficient it is for the question between him and me if it appeare as in this person that Christ hath given commission to men out of office by an ordinary gift to publish and preach in publick the the Gospel of salvation I doe quote next in my booke Luk. 10.1 9. which for that W.E. omitteth and leaues out M. Yates thanketh God but in truth hee hath more cause to thanke him for sparing him in a place which so pregnantly proveth the preaching of the kingdom of God by men out of office except hee can assigne some new found office and the same but of two or three dayes lasting as v. 17. to those 70 there sent VVe are in the next place to come unto Ioh. 4.28.29.39 which hee openeth and answereth with admiration as the former place withpitty and compassion on this manner O simplicity with contradiction to his own writing Simplicity that cannot see bttween preaching of the Gospell and carrying tydings of a man that told her to wit the woman of Samaria of al things that ever she did is not this sayth she the Christ But besides simplicity here is contradiction for sayes M. Robinson and that truely a woman is not suffered to exercise an ordinary gift of prophesie in the Church and shall