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A71292 An additional discovery of Mr. Roger L'Estrange his further discovery of the Popish plot wherein Dr. Titus Oates and the rest of the King's evidences are vindicated from the aspersions cast upon them in that pamphlet : together with some new observations upon the said discovery not heretofore publisht / in a letter to Dr. Titus Oates by B.W. B. W.; L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704.; Oates, Titus, 1649-1705. 1680 (1680) Wing W3; ESTC R7902 30,317 22

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in a popular Out-cry in the matter of Religion to have a State-Faction in the belly of it and then again compares it with the late times and so Concludes that Paragraph What an Hotch-Potch Chimera is this and as Forreign to the Case in hand as the East is from the West What is the Scribling of Pamphleteers now there is no Licenser when it was altogether as bad when there was one or what is the babling at Coffe-houses to be regarded or be thought to have any share in the Prosecution of this Discovery It 's bare matter of Fact and not at all Mysterious to men of understanding and although as the truth of the Evidence is It doth solely and Principally Centre in the Roman Catholique Party yet I cannot with all the skill I have with this learned Authors Assistance to boot understand wherein Religion is concerned in the least especially the differences between the Church of England and the Dissenters from it as he aims to inforce it Nor is the question the same as to the Plot you have Discovered nor the Transactions thereupon nor in any Possibility can be Paralelled with those of the late times Nay I know some of the Roman Catholick Religion take it quite otherwise for a person of Honour of that perswasion lately told me That he believed neither the King nor the Nation would be happy or safe until they were well rid of the Jesuites and their King-killing Doctrine and I think with Mr. Strange his favour it was not mannerly done of him to arraign the Judgments of the Representatives of the Nation in Parliament to say nothing was more narrowly Sifted nor more Vigorously discouraged I conceive that was intended incouraged but mistaken by the Printer than this Conspiracy for certainly had it been so they would never have made the neglect of it a Considerable part of their Impeachment against the Earl of Danby and doubtless they did not make that without due Consideration of such authentick proofs as they had before them to make it good And the Author of that Pamphlet having thus by stating a Case that is not in the least the Case you Doctor have in hand he draws a Conclusion Suitable to it That it might be useful and find Credit upon its own Account and then giving an Encomium of himself he casts off the Reader and enters into the Lists with you again In the beginning of his Book the Author gave you the allowance of a Figure in the Government But now he 'l make you as little as a Cipher he thinks you of so little understanding that you by his Incoherent Arguments are now perswaded out of your Senses and of the reallity and truth of that Case you have with so much danger avowed and justifed by and with a fictitious Case of his own making and proved it by Fallacious Arguments and it is so far unlike yours Doctor as instead of four feet it doth not go upon one of them and upon the Credence the Author hath of this supposed Conquest over you in a great part he proceeds to make it compleat and is resolved in another Point right or wrong to stand fair in your Opinion and that is That he is free from the Itch of Scribling unless where his Genius tells him his Pen may be of Publique use and where he is Prompted on by such an Incontinence of a publick Spirit as you find in your self and he Injured Gentleman never was but upon the Defensive part and received no reply but reproaches as he terms them of Popishly affected or a Villifier of the Kings Evidence Indeed this Comparison of his is of the same Stamp with the other but Doctor you may well pardon him because he Pardoned you for calling him Rogue and this is only out of a great desire he hath to be esteemed like you in publick Spiritedness but I am afraid his temper is more like Baals that was only Sollicitous to die the death of the Righteous but I do not remember one Word of his living their life I think as to the matter in hand I have had as much Experience of your Actions and as Seriously and Impartially and Duely weighed them as another but it s very Probable the Eyes of Mr. L' Estrange and my Understanding differ which may occasion from us Various Inferences and Conclusions It s true I have observed you often to be earnestly Zealous for truth in the Fact that you have Discovered and against all Opposers of it under what Circumstances soever but that you have in the least Promoted it either for this or the other Party or against this or that Party but only against particular Persons guilty Sparing none of what perswasion soever that are within your knowledge not in the least by any overt Act yet occurrs to my knowledge that you have any wayes made it your business either to set up or pull down or to make division amongst Parties of differing Perswasions I am sure it hath not yet appeared to be your business but rather of an healing Temper but how much it is that learned Authors is Manifestly apparent and he that runs may read it besides do but observe the different Foundations between you and him For Doctor you go upon occular and auricular Experiences and he upon Coffee-houses discourses only seconded by a Report of the strenuous affirmation of a Lady and that by hearsay too and then how naturally it follows that these malicious Rumors as he calls them put upon himself must needs promote and stir up him to Vindicate you that was not in the least concerned or named in it nor either wanted or craved his aid to defend you however with Cause or without Cause he hath no mind to part with you yet not out of love to prove you no Fanatick but to other more Sinister Ends and Purposes That is to get a small reward for his Pamphlet and Vindicate the Papists and crush the Phanaticks as he calls them as I hope I shall plainly and Evidently demonstrate But now warmly clad with these wonderfully Erroneous Considerations that incumbred his disturbed Brains with the help of taking your Works to pieces he had now fallen under such a Conception from which the World might expectsuch a product as was expected from the Mountain But you know that proved a Mouse Now the Author Glories in his Acquisition of Materials to defend you and now Magnifies his thoughts of his being armed to Suppress Popery and is as sure of his way as any blind man in Town for he will as certainly hit it as he that takes the way to Oxford to be the right and strait way to go to Canterbury When this Author hath pleased himself with these Incomprehensible thoughts by your Clue as he says he enters into the almost Inextricable Labyrinth of the Plot till he found out some Priests you pointed at lurking in Holes like Foxs and then he could not forbear Publishing it to the Nation
make good Musick in wise mens Eares no more than his Musick did in Olivers and I am sure he hath not and believe he cannot make any further Discovery of this Plot by any thing by you published nay it s without all Contradiction absolute Nonsense that a Discovery can be made out of a Discovery for without all Peradventure a Discovery must and doth imply new Fact otherwise it s no Discovery Then the Author tells you That that part of the Design against his Majesties life broke to all Intents and Purposes but we are beholden to you for the Discovery of other and further Plots in defaming the King and Government Subversion of our Established Religion and Disturbance of the Peace so that our Deliverance is but half done I stand amazed with what considence he dares write such things but as the Proverb there is is none so bold as blind Bayard for his so that our Deliverance is but half done is his and none of your's and what you have done is meerly making known matter of Fact and that long since and only as to one Plot. And besides Doctor had he considered the whole truth of the Fact as to that part of this Hellish Plot That the same hands attempted his Sacred Majesties life Beyond-Sea That 's its strongly to be presumed Mr. Killigrues man that was Murthered at Windsor on his Majesties Couch was by the same hands and intended his Majesty That although the Gun is taken that Pickering should have made use of for that purpose yet neither Coniers nor his Dagger nor the Ruffians nor many others you have in your Depositions charged are that the Contrivance was as well Beyond-Sea as at home and that since your Discovery of Mr. Dugdale Mr. Balldron Mr. Jennison Mr. Danger-field and others which daily come in have severally deposed that at several places and times and by divers Persons they have been accosted to be hired to undertake to attempt it Methinks the Consideration of these things which have undeniable truths should make him Blush for that by broaching such Falsities amongst the Subjects to delude them he may make them neglectful and careless in the Preservation of his Majesties life in which they have so much and great an Interest but I only mention this Doctor as it is to me a clear Demonstration of the Contrivance and often repetition of the Jesuites and their Parties indeavouring to put in Execution their hellish Design against his Majesties person whom God preserve Then he repeats part of your Narrative wherein you Doctor as he says mention some Circumstantial Actions the Jeuites do in order to the Facilitating this their impious Design which is by making and Promoting differences between the King and his People and the King and Forraign Princes and the like and amongst the people in case their Design as to his Majesties life took effect that they might be ready to rise up in Arms against one another and then in a glorying manner the Author tells you We have found your Observations in these Particulars so Punctually true that every Syllable is the matter now in Agitation as thus not a Day without a Libel upon his Majesties Authority belieing the Condition of his Affairs Indeavouring to create Distrusts and Jealousies amongst Forraign Princes and States by false Intelligence Animating and exciting turbulent Factions Anticipating Confederacies Involving us in Blood upon a remote and Vndutiful supposition of the Kings Death Sedition preached as well as Written our Conventicles both Instructed themselves and Instructing others in the Methods and Principles of Rebellion this he says may Suffice for your Judgment upon these things which look liker a Revelation than a Conjecture I know not Doctor who the Author means by we for my part I think no man in his right Senses can close with him in his finding for as I said before yours are not observations but only matters of Fact and those charged upon the Jesuites and their Party But if there are any such Libells holding forth those particulars he mentions but as much as his own from any man or from any Society of men I am very clear in my opinion with all humble Submission to the Governors and Government the Authors may well be suspected to promote the Design and may deserve to be called in question and punished for them according to their Demerits And the rather as to him because he hath the boldness in Capital Letters and of remark to call it A REMOTE AND UNDUTIFUL SUPPOSITION OF HIS MAJESTIES DEATH If this be not a giving the lie to the Representatives of the Commons of the Nation affirming their Credit of your's and other's Evidence in that particular by their Vote That if his Majesty which God forbid should dye a violent Death they would revenge it on the Papists and this Concurred with by the House of Peers but these are such small and minute things in Mr. Le Strange's Consideration he can easily pass them by as an Evident and undeniable proof of his natural Veneration of the Government and his true Son-ship to the Church of England But as to the Preachings he talkes of if amongst those he means under the term Fanaticks when he can name the Persons I hope I may without offence say the Persons charged or some body for them will give an answer Satisfactory to the Governours Government and the world in the mean time I believe no man of understanding will Credit it upon his bare and general Assertion And because Mr. L'Estrange as may be supposed did apprehend these things had not been sufficient to finish his intended Fabrick and that his Pamphlet he makes some further repetition of part of your Preface to your Narrative in reference to the late Troubles as That the Jesuitical Party were the Contrivers of the last War by their known Diabolical Art of inslaming Parties and Passions against each other and addressing to the King of his Majesties Royal Fathers unspeakable Sufferings and barbarous usage it was those brought him to his end stourished Swords and Trumpets over his dead Body the Putney Projectors were in most if not all the Councils that contrived his ruine What broke the Uxbridge Treaty but the Romish Interest and Policy who contrived to baffle all designs of Peace and Settlement to this Nation Prosperity to his Majesties Family but them Milton was a known Frequenter of a Popish Club. Who more forward to set up Cromwel and crown him with the King's Crown than Papists his Government was contrived by a Priest and Lambert a Papist for above thirty years From whence he concludes in this Point he says a man may without loss of Honour believe you to be in a mistake I could wish he Would have given some reason for it that he might have received a more full Answer than otherwise can be given to it for although this is not nor cannot be said or deposed by you as an immediate part of your Discovery of the