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A76286 Planes apokalypsis. Popery manifested, or, the Papist incognito made known by way of dialogue betwixt a Papist priest, Protestant gentleman, and Presbyterian divine. In two parts. Intended for the good of those that shall read it by L. B. P. Beaulieu, Luke, 1644 or 5-1723. 1673 (1673) Wing B1574B; ESTC R232440 78,493 144

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1644. 22. Who is on my side let him cast down Jezabel of Rome down with her Idolatries and Superstitions down with her Altars and Images down with her Rags and Reliques they be but Jezabels fragments let them be used as Jezabel was used Help Royal Sovereign to throw her down help to throw her down more and more ye that are of the Honourable Court of Parliament Every one that loves the Lord Jesus Christ help to throw her down never let us halt as we have done betwixt God and Baal 'T is probable that had Royal Sovereign helpt to pull down Jezabel you had not pulled him down with her being he proved refractory to the Church you judged it requisite in ordine ad spiritualia to make him feel that Power of yours he would not acknowledge Nay when there were some hopes of an Accommodation Christopher Love who died a Martyr for your Kirk was so afraid the Holy War should be ended and Christ not set upon his Throne you know what that means that Preaching at Vxbridge before the Commissioners he made use of another mans words as he said to exhort them to go on in fighting for God 'T is the Sword saith he not Disputes nor Treaties must end this Controversie therefore turn your Plowghshears into Swords to fight the Lords Battels to avenge the Bloud of Saints which hath been spilt Cursed is he that doth the work of the Lord negligently and cursed is he that keepeth back his Sword from Bloud Jer. 48.10 Some silly Cavaliers thought indeed that the War betwixt the King and Parliament was about matters of Priviledges but S. Marshall told them soundly of their simplicity in a Sermon before the Parliament and Mayor and Aldermen S Marshal 1643. p. 21. Noble and resolute Commanders fight the Battels of the Lord Jesus Christ All Kingdoms except the Malignants in England do now see that the question here is Whether Christ or Antichrist shall be Lord or King Go on therefore couragiously you can never venture your Bloud in such a Quarrel Christ shed his Bloud to save you from Hell venture yours to set him up upon his Throne So Jos Boden told the Kentish Committee pag. 11. Jos Boden 1644. That they were fighting for the Lamb against the Beast And at the 13 pag. Besides their wondring after and worshipping the Beast Rev. 13.4 Have they not gathered together in Arms and Armies against the Lord and against his Christ belike they did not give that name to their Parliament Priviledges Nay are they not daily more and more mad and desperate in their mischief conceived against the Church Do they not daily beat up their Alarms and bid defiance to the people of the most High I would have every Christian stand upon his reputation and not discover pusillanimity after such proud Challengings What hath Antichrist done for them that they dare be so bold And what hath not Christ done for us that we should now in these days of daring be dastardly hen-hearted and effeminate This Sermon was called An Alarm beat up in Sion to War against Babylon and it well deserves to be transcribed but that it is too long In all these you see we hear of nothing but the Whore the Beast Babylon and Antichrist which were to be destroyed not one word of any Civil matters or differences if there was any it was forgotten your Church-Champions were so intent upon the Lords Work and it prospered so well in their hands that they could think of nothing else Joh. Bond 1644. p. 59. As Sampson with the Philistines saith one of the Saints so let us die with Babylon if we cannot out-live Antichrist and the Enemies of Reformation let us adventure our selves to death in the Cause yea let us take hold of the Pillars of the Church of Dagon of the Temple of Antichrist and say Now let me die with Antichrist Rome and Babylon The War was so wholly and intirely upon Gods account as you said that though betwixt the Inhabitants of the same Kingdom yet you would not have it to be a Civil War It is not a Kingdom divided against it self J. Arrowsmith 1643. p. 69. saith Mr. Arrowsmith to the Parliament but one Kingdom against another the Kingdom of Christ divided against that of Antichrist and this Antichristian Kingdom will rage as much as they can to their power to shed Bloud but the Lord hath them in this Chain and hath sent forth his host against them They were not the Parliaments Forces but the Host of the Lord sent against Antichrist Therefore they were so earnestly exhorted never to shrink but joyfully to lose their very lives in so good a cause Mr. Midhope at the Funeral of Colonel Gold exhorted the Militia thus St. Midb 1644. p. 24. Noble Commanders be active for Christ ye cannot do or suffer too much in his Cause Lay out your Time Strength Parts your All for Christ fear no loss here ye cannot drive a more gainful Trade Could any thing more have been said to the blessed Martyrs Or did ever the Pope recommend his Croisadoes more highly What hath been said proves it to the full that you valued your intended Reformation more than Christianity it self which 't is no thanks to you if it was not quite destroyed by these most nefarious and unchristian actings Now two Witnesses more will make it altogether unquestionable that from the beginning to the end that cursed War was raised and fomented to maintain your new-fashioned Religion and to bring about your Reformation Mr. Cheynell told the Parliament F. Cheynel 1646. p. 32. Consider the cries and out-cries of the Godly Party of this Kingdom for a Reformation they speak plain and tell you that they have fasted prayed and wept for a Reformation they have exhausted their Treasures many of them ventured their Lives lost their Limbs their Bloud their Friends for a Reformation you have promised us a Reformation N. B. we have paid for a Reformation you are therefore indebted to us of a Reformation we are bound to challenge such a Reformation as will quit cost and answer the price we have paid and the pains we have bestowed c. And Mr. Jenisson a Scotch-man in a Sermon at New-castle Rob. Jen. 1648. p. 29. The late designs of the Popish and Malignant Party tending to the utter subversion of our Religion and of our Liberties occasioned the National Covenant between England and Scotland and the joining in Arms for the defence of their Religion N. B. Now I hope it is clear enough that it was you chiefly if not alone that raised and fomented that execrably Holy War to establish your projected Religion and Discipline And if you dare say to the contrary you must give the lye to your own Fellow-labourers for you see I have it from them So I humbly conceive that you and I have made it appear that you are not only not subject to Kings and Princes
though I find nothing for it in Scripture had I not found that he hath really erred and that very grosly whence I infer that therefore his Infallibility and supreme Authority are Chimeras mere devices of his own brain the which I am in no wise bound to obey being they pervert and oppose the plainest truths in the New Testament As that Christ is now in heaven by his bodily presence and not on the Altars as it is in the Creed he is ascended into heaven from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead and in Acts 3.20 Whom the heavens must contain until the restitution of all things That we are forgiven and cleansed by the death and merits of Christ not by Purgatory and Indulgences 1 Joh. 1.7 And the bloud of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sins ibid. 2.2 He is the propitiation for our sins and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world That the offering of himself on the Cross hath fully satisfied for sin and that his sacrifice needs not be renewed daily and be offered corporally in the Mass for the sins of the living and the dead as you teach and do Heb. 9.26 But now once in the end of the world he hath appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself c. In those things that are evidently against the Word of God we are resolv'd to follow Scripture rather than the head of your Church and we 'll rather for ever break with him than to suffer him to put out our eyes that so he may guide us at his own pleasure P. Yea those be the fruits of translating the Bible and performing Divine Service in the vulgar Tongues every one of you can find fault with the Doctrins and Constitutions of the Church and talk Scripture from morning to night we see among your selves what Disorders it hath caused If your Clergy had been wise enough to have still retein'd the Latin Tongue in all their Ministrations the people could have dislik'd and censur'd nothing 't was sufficient for them to have light enough to follow their guides more submission and obedience with less knowledge had done better Bellar de Verbo Dei l. 2. c. 15. That hath been the wisdom of our Church to keep the Scripture and the publick prayers of our Church out of the peoples reach by forbidding them to be read in any vulgar tongue Catholica Ecclesia prohibet ne in publico communi usu Ecclesiae Scripturae legantur vel canentur vulgaribus linguis ut in Concilio Tridentino SS 22. Can. 9. Sed contenti sumus tribus illis linguis quas Dominus titulo crucis suae honoravit G. Because some men stumble and fall at noon-day must the Sun be charged with a fault that proceeds from their heedlesness and would it become one to say that therefore 't is safer to grope in the dark because then people tread more warily Or must therefore mens eyes be put out because then they shall be willing to be led and to follow their guides S. Peter saith that the unstable and unlearned in his time wrested some difficult things written by Saint Paul and other Scriptures to their own destruction Yet he doth not say therefore let not the common people read them but rather dedicates his Epistle to all those that were partakers of the Christian Faith and exhorts them to grow in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ ibid. v. 18. S. Paul reckons Idolatry Heresies and Schisms among the fruits of the flesh Gal. 5.20 but doth not any where impute them to the reading of Holy Scripture and it hath been observ'd that the perversness of men of great Learning hath been the cause of Heresies and not the mistakes or ignorance of ordinary people in reading the Bible However we have a whole Chapter in the New Testament against the speaking in an unknown tongue as you do in all your Churches 1 Cor. 15.11 If I know not the meaning of the voice I shall be unto him that speaketh a Barbarian and he that speaketh shall be a Barbarian unto me that 's the relation betwixt your Priests and your people they are Barbarians one to another the whole Chapter is to that purpose and would be too long to be transcrib'd But if Scripture had been silent in this one would think that common Reason would have kept men from a practice so absurd and ridiculous that a man should present a petition and know not what he asks and be taught his duty by words he doth not understand is a strange and incredible thing which Reason alone confutes most strongly And yet for all this I do hugely commend the wisdom of your Church in this particular for that hath maintain'd the Popes Religion and Credit for some hundreds of years the understanding of Mass and Scripture hath already prov'd fatal to his authority and should once the rest of his flock be able to compare both together 't is to be fear'd he that hath rewarded many of his friends with the gift of titular Bishopricks might come to be himself a titular Bishop P. I see you value an universal Council as little as you do Bellarmin alone and have as many things to object against it I wonder how you dare in any wise oppose the authority of such an Assembly and think your Judgment is to be prefer'd to theirs G. And I wonder how you can call the Council of Trent universal when there was none in it of the Clergy of the Reformed Churches which are almost as large and populous here in the West as those of the Roman Religion But especially because none of the Christians of Aethiopia nor of those that are subject to the Patriarchs of Antioch and Constantinople whose Jurisdiction is of a far larger extent than that of the Bishop of Rome were present at it Pray did you never hear that a great Company of Arrians met once together and confirmed their Errors and cursed all those that would not embrace it and call'd themselves an Universal Council just so did that Company of Papists that met at Trent But had they been twice as many more you should not wonder how I dare oppose them but rather consider whether what I say be rational or no and whether what you call my private judgment be not rather the express words of Scripture But pray proceed and tell me what your Church thinks of Images and Saints for we are told that you worship them P. Yes Bellar. de San. beat l. 1. c. 19. and that very devoutly and to our great advantage by making religious Invocations to them whether they be men or angels Sancti sive angeli sive homines pie atque utiliter invocantur G. Now I wonder too how you dare do that for I find that when Cornelius would have worshipped S. Peter the holy Apostle took him up saying Acts 10.26 Rev. 19.10 that he himself was a
itself or at least appear most ridiculous I would fain know who told Bellarmin Poena aeterna commutatur in temporalem quando remittitur culpa That when the guilt is forgiven the eternal pain is changed into a temporal I know this was necessary to build upon the Doctrin of Indulgences and Purgatory but the Scripture that hath no such Doctrins makes no such distinctions at all Gal. 3.10 but saith in general Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things that are written in the Book of the Law to do them No commutation of the eternal into a temporal pain he that transgresseth deserves the curse of the law Ibid. v 1● But Christ hath redeemed us from that curse Wherefore there remains no more satisfactory pains to the penitent sinner God may indeed visit him still with Chastisements and temporal Judgments but who told you that it must be to make him satisfie for his sins and if it were who gave the Pope power to sell the sinner an Indulgence and so take off that punishment as he pretends to do S. Paul saith that the wages of sin is death Ro. 6.23 but he saith in another place that Christ died for us and that by that means Rom. 5.8 there remains no more wrath to those that are in Christ But admit there had been part of the punishment due to sin to be suffered here and part hereafter and that so a twofold satisfaction had been required yet to say that Christ could not satisfie for the temporal pain would be impious to say that he would not is to speak without book or rather against it Joh. 1.29 for S. John saith Behold the Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world He doth not say that he leaves part of them to be taken away by the satisfactions of Saints S. Paul also 1 Tim. 2.6 that he gave himself a ransom for all and S. Peter 1 Pet. 2.24 Rom. 8.1 that his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree and lastly that there is no condemnation to those that are in Christ In all these the satisfaction of Christ is general and there is not one place in Scripture that restrains it to one part of the punishment But to do you right you do not absolutely deny that Christ hath also yielded a satisfaction for the temporal pain only you will not have him to give it gratis the Pope must sell it and you will not have it to be sufficient of itself but your own and the Saints must be added to it Whereas it is written Act. 4.12 That there is no salvation in any other and that he bore our griefs and carried our sorrows Isa 53.4 5. that he was wounded for our transgressions and bruised for our iniquities and that God laid on him the iniquity of us all Nothing like that is said of any man but of them all it is written Gal. 6.5 That every one shall bear his own burthen and that we shall appear before the judgment-seat of Christ that every one may receive according to what he hath done not according to what S. Francis hath suffered for him But pray tell us some more of the care of your Church for her necessitous Children P. Why if by their carelesness or poverty they have not bought as many Pardons and Indulgences as would satisfie for the remaining temporal pains which the merits and bloud of Christ did not take away there is provided for them a place of Torments called Purgatory where they are to suffer until they have given full satisfaction or some of their friends have procur'd them a Release by Masses or Indulgences or some other way and after that they are received into heaven Those pains of Purgatory are most intolerable and far greater than any upon earth this Reason and Revelations and the Fathers have assur'd us of Bellar. de Purg. l. ● c. 14. Poenas purgatorii esse atrocissimas cum illis nullas poenas hujus vitae comparandas docent patres probant revelationes ratio And if any one denies Purgatory thinking that God hath so pardoned him by Christ as that there remains no temporal pains whereby he must satisfie the divine justice either in this world or in Purgatory Bellarmin and the Council of Trent condemn him to burn for ever in Hell Constanter asserimus dogma esse fidei Purgatorium Ibid. l. 1. c. 15. adeo ut qui non credit illud ad idem nunquam sit perventurus Concil Trid. S. 6. Can. 3● sed in gehenna sempiterno incendio cruciandus Si quis dixerit culpam ita remitti reatum aeternae poenae deleri ut nullus remaneat reatus poenae temporalis exsolvendae vel in hoc seculo vel in futuro Purgatorio antequam ad regna coelorum aditus patere possit Anathema sit G. Well done Holy Fathers curse them stoutly those Heretics that would put out that sacred fire which warms you and makes your Pot boil Now the cheat is complete I see your Church-men are resolv'd to have money by hook or by crook If people have wit enough as not to be persuaded to buy Indulgences while they live at least 't is hop'd that when they are dying when their Reason is weak and their fears strong that they shall be willing to part with those goods they can keep no longer to purchase a total exemption from or at least a quicker passage through those dreadful Flames which they are told will torment them God knows how long And if that should fail their surviving friends it may chance will have some pity upon their souls and buy for them all those assistances the Church can afford to help them out of their miseries and so dead or alive th●y are like to pay for that care your Church takes for their well-being But I wonder that your Clergy who have power by their Masses and Indulgences to deliver Souls out of Purgatory as fast as they please should be so hard-hearted as to let them lie there except they or their friends have paid for their deliverance And I wonder as much at your Peoples folly that they don't make a sufficient provision of Indulgences while they live for to carry their Souls straightway to Heaven being they could get more than enough by saying some Prayers or visiting certain Shrines and Churches which have an extraordinary faculty that way But what if the Scripture saith That the Souls of the Faithful when they depart out of this life do not go into a place of Torments must we needs be damn'd if we believe it before the Pope In the Revelations Rev. 14.13 Blessed are they that die in the Lord for they rest from their labours and their works follow them their own works follow them not the satisfactory works or passions of the Fryers and they rest from their labours and therefore are not in a place of