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A50442	The antiquity of the royal line of Scotland farther cleared and defended, against the exceptions lately offer'd by Dr. Stillingfleet, in his vindication of the Bishop of St. Asaph by Sir George Mackenzie ...	Mackenzie, George, Sir, 1636-1691.	1686 (1686)	Wing M150; ESTC R11636	78,633	233

in Ulster is call'd Dalaradia and Dalriadia and the Inhabitants Dalaradii And this King Araidh was also after Conar For he began to reign Anno 240. And as it was more honourable to have a Countrey called after Reuda a Scotish King than from Araidh who was but a King of Ulster and so one of the Kings of a Province in Ireland so it is yet more dishonourable to have our glorious Monarch who now Reigns descended from Carbre Ried who was but a Dynastie in this Provincial Kingdom of Ulster and so a Subject each Provincial Kingdom having five Dynasties as O-Flahertie tells us And from all this I leave to my Readers to judge whether Dr. Stillingfleet and his Authours doe the King greater Honour in making him to be descended from a petty Subject or our Historians who make him still to be descended from absolute Monarchs I cannot here omit to laugh at good O-Flahertie for asserting that our Kings even till the 590 were but Dynasties Tributaries and Subjects to the Kings of Ireland and that Aidanus got an Exemption from paying Tribute at the Parliament of Dromcheat where he appeared And the Doctor does great Honour to our King in following such Authours and rather to follow them than the venerable Beda The Bishop of St. Asaph has a different derivation of Dalrieda from all the former Authours for he brought it from R● which signifies King in the Irish and Eda the King's name so that Eda was a different King and Authour of this Appellation from Rheuda Carbre Ried Echoid Ried or Araidh And are our Histories to be overturn'd by such irreconcilable Authours The fourth step of this Conjecture is in the Agreement of our History with the Irish in the Persons of Eric Eochoid Mainreamhere Oengus Fear the Father Grandfather and Great Grandfather of our Fergus the Second though there be a difference in the rest of the Line from Carbre to Fergus our Historians making this Line to consist of thirteen Persons and theirs of ten But against this last Period it is represented That the small Agreement in this step as to the Names of Father and Grandfather of Fergus with their residence in Ireland the Grandfather having been expell'd from Scotland and fled to Ireland when King Eugenius was killed by the Romans under Maximus gave a Rise to some unexact Irish Writers to imagine that the return of this Fergus the Second from Ireland after forty four years absence was our first Settlement in Britain But the want of three in this Period of thirteen in a direct Line does much over-balance the small Probability that is urged against us from the Agreement in two Names and some resemblance in other two viz. in Carbre Ried and Eochoid Ried and Aenegusa Tich and Angus Fear It is also very observable that this Irish Genealogy allows 283 years to these ten viz. from the death of Conar Carbre's Father who dyed Anno 220 Arthur his Successour having begun his Reign that year to the Year 503 wherein Laorn eldest Brother to our Fergus the Second as they say began his Reign and yet to fifty one Kings from that Laorn to Malcolm the Third they allow onely 554 years And from the reflexion it is also more probable that there were thirteen in this Period and that Conar began to reign in the Year 149 and Fergus the Second in the Year 404 as our Historians assert To all these I add the irreconcilable differences amongst the Irish Authours as to the first Founder of our Monarchy and the time wherein it was founded as also the irreconcilable Consequences following thereupon wherein our three great Adversaries Camden Usher and Bishop of St. Asaph did so widely differ as I have fully prov'd in my first Book without any Answer and by which Contradictions Dr. Stillingfleet himself is so misted that he cannot determine whether we setled in the fourth fifth sixth or seventh Centuries professing that in matters of so great obscurity he could determine nothing My last Argument to prove that our Histories cannot be overturn'd by the Irish shall be from comparing the Warrants of both But before I enter upon this I must again regret in this Book as I did in my last that the Irish should mistake so far their own Interest as to suffer or furnish theirs to overturn the Credibility of ours Since because we acknowledge our selves to have come last from Ireland it were our common Interest to unite together and to sustain one another's Antiquities as their Authours did before Bishop Usher who was of foreign Extraction For though they controverted some of our Saints and Monasteries because of the common name Scoti yet till then they never opposed our Antiquities knowing that in so far as we prov'd our Antiquity by Roman and foreign Authors which they had not the occasion to do they in so far were proved to be ancient which Stanihurst well observ'd as I did remark in my first Book And upon seeing the use that is made of Authours against us who are really for us as Beda and others we are apt to believe that theirs are not if we saw them and that the Irish rather omit our remote Antiquities than contradict them Nor would we have controverted the Authority of their Annals though some of the English had produc'd them against us if some of the Irish had not by ignorance or mistake concurr'd of late with them We likewise desire them to consider how our Adversaries and particularly Dr. Stillingfleet railly their Antiquities and Authours Ketin Wardoeus and O-Flahertie and yet seem which is severe to allow their Antiquities to the end they may encourage them to oppose us laying still foundations in the mean time to overturn theirs also when they have serv'd their turn which I now proceed to discover First The Milesian Race is accounted by the Irish their Fourth Race and yet this is controverted by Dr. Stillingfleet And the Authority and Learning of the Druids upon which the Irish do chiefly found the Authority of their Histories is absolutely denied as it also is that the Irish had use of Letters till after St. Patrick's time and all the Antiquity he does allow them is as to general things as from whence they were peopl'd and that they had successions of Kings time out of mind and does magnify the Tygerneck Annals for confessing that the Irish Antiquities till the Reign of Kimbacius their 73d King are very uncertain and he liv'd within 59 years of our Fergus And the Doctor adds that he might have gone farther and done no injury to Truth and at last brings down this Truth to Fergusius Fortamalius who liv'd Anno Mundi 3775. which is 134 years after our Fergus whereas we necessarily conclude the Irish to have a much greater Antiquity for there were many Descents made here from Ireland to prepare the settlement of Fergus and Ireland lying in the neighbourhood of Britain and Spain and describ'd by the

Against Fordon it is urg'd that he mentions not our first Kings from Fergus the First to Fergus the Second and that he confesses he knew not how long any of these Kings after Fergus reign'd and from this also it is concluded that we have no Manuscripts to instruct the same Nam says he ad plenum scripta non reperimus To which it is answered that this is a great argument of his ingenuity for if he could have written without sufficient warrants why could he not have made up this as well as the rest But the true reason is that the Warrants did then lie in the Monastery especially at Icolmekill where Veremund's History was likewise kept And it is clear by Boethius's dedication to the King that he thanked his Majesty for ordering that these should be delivered to him and if the Doctor should at present write such another Dedication to the King thanking him for letting him have the use of the Alexandrian MSS. of the Bible out of his Bibliotheque could any man afterwards think that there were no such MSS and that the Warrants of the Histories us'd so to be kept as not to be got without publick Authority is clear by the custome of Nations acknowledg'd by the Doctor out of Livy and asserted by me in my First Book As to our Nation from Paulus Iovius who was not interested in us and consequently it was no wonder that Fordon who was but a mean Priest could not have Veremund and the other Warrants which were necessary for filling up the History of our Kings between the two Fergusses which Boethius himself could not recover without the King's command the Treasurer's assistance and his own great expence and labour and I know not whether it would not have been a greater villany and folly in him to have asserted all this if it had not been true himself and all Persons interested being alive or a proof of Fordon's ingenuity in not filling up what was deficient through want of the Warrants Against Boethius it is urg'd by the Doctor that he could not have had Veremund and other sufficient Warrants from Icolmekill as is pretended because his History is printed in the Year 1526. and he had not these Records from Icolmekill till the Year 25. so that the History could not be compil'd printed and revis'd in a year To which it is answered that Hector Boethius is acknowledg'd to have had a better invention than to have forg'd so improbable a falsity especially in a thing he might have contriv'd as he pleas'd and in which the honour of the Nation was not concern'd and as to which the King Treasurer and Monks of Icolmekill could have controll'd him but this is easily reconcil'd without a miracle for certainly Boethius was writing his History long before he got these Records and doing what he could as Fordon had done without them before and having at last got them after the third message Tertio Nuncio which shews he was writing before he might have easily added from the beginning through the whole Book what was to be expected from Veremund and others and which I dare say the laborious Dr. Stillingfleet could have done in a month and there was time enough from the beginning of 25. to the end of 26. as we may well enough suppose being near two years to have done all this and this was a far less miracle than for the Bishop and Doctor to have sent Palladius from Rome to Ireland to preach there long enough to have a sufficient proof of the Irish being obstinate and to despair of success to return and to die in a Countrey of the Picts all in one year and St. Patrick who was not then present but was in France to have got the news of this death to have formed the resolution and to have gone to Rome and prevail'd with the Pope to ordain him and all this in the small space betwixt the 25th of December and the 6th of April following at which time the Pope died whose preceding sickness could not but have retarded that Affair I admire the Doctor for insisting on the Printer's mistake not mine in calling Turgot Archbishop of Saint Andrews for I call him p. 26. Edition the first Bishop of St. Andrews and so the calling him Archbishop afterwards could not have been ignorance in me and the Printers thought all Bishops of St. Andrews must be Archbishops and by the mistake of the same kind without any observation Martial is made to have liv'd in Augustus's time whereas I plac'd him in Domitian's and sent a Copy so corrected in print to the Bishop of St. Asaph and the half of our own printed Copies are right in this but in the Second Edition I expung'd these and some other literal faults before I knew that the Doctor or any else was to write an answer and I am glad the Doctor is so fashionable a Gentleman as to understand Martial better than I do nor would I have insisted on the mistakes about Fordon and Dempster if these had not been material to my purpose whereof the one is not yet answered and the other not at all notic'd by the Doctor I urg'd upon this head also that the Sacred History was for many hundreds of years preserv'd by Oral Tradition for though the Iews and we acknowledge that the Scripture was penn'd by Divine Inspiration yet in arguing against Pagans we must make this probable by other Arguments And the Doctor in his Origines Sacrae which Book I esteem very much uses the same Common Places with me and amongst other things tells us that men lived so long in those days that they were able to transmit Historical Relations with much more certainty than now And Iosephus for proving the Sacred History against Appion cites Foreign Authours that are all lost now and yet we believe there were such Historians And albeit afterwards the Priests did preserve their Histories with great exactness yet that way of preserving History by Records took not place for many ages And though our Monasteries are not to be compared with their Priesthood yet they were sufficient especially in these sincerer times to preserve our Histories And though what they preserv'd is not to be believ'd with a Divine belief yet they ought to have an Historical one allowed them especially since they are fortified by the probability of what they preserv'd and the concurrence of as much Roman History as France or Spain can pretend to Nor are the Citations from our old Laws to be contemn'd for these at least might have been preserved by practice as Lycurgus's Laws And it is undeniable that Skene our famous Register and Antiquary did within these 100 years declare He had old Manuscripts bearing these our old Laws though they are now lost without weakning our esteem or observance of them and he has printed many of them And though Historians might have adventur'd to print some Historical Passages without sufficient warrant yet neither they nor