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A55712 The present state of Christendom consider'd in nine dialogues between I. The present Pope Alexander the VIII. and Lewis the XIV. II. The great Duke of Tuscany, and the Duke of Savoy. III. King James the Second, and the Marescal de la Feuillade. IV. The Duke of Lorrain, and the Duke of Schomberg. V. The Duke of Lorrain, and the Elector Palatine. VI. Louis the XIV. and the Marquis de Louvois. VII. The Advoyer of Berne, and the Chief Syndic of Geneva. VIII. Cardinal Ottoboni, and the Duke de Chaulnes. IX. The young Prince Abafti, and Count Teckely. Done out of French. Alexander VIII, Pope, 1610-1691.; Louis XIV, King of France, 1638-1715. 1691 (1691) Wing P3259A; ESTC R203184 56,532 108

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his best Market of her Spoils As for what relates to the Italian Princes let them not give you any occasion of fear Do but give a Comedy to one a Mistress and a set of B to another suffer the third to fill his Coffers peaceably and take my word for it you 'l have no reason to torment your self upon that score 'T is true your Family is none of the most Illustrious but what of that Is it the only Family in the World that raised it self from a mean Condition to a higher Dignity Pray tell me what were the Sforza's at first who were Dukes of Millain or the Medici who have possessed themselves of the Soveraignty of Florence And then as for what concerns the Example of Caesar Borgia who lost immediately after his Father's Death all that he had acquired during his Life let me tell you 't is no good Consequence There happens an ill-favour'd Accident to day which perhaps may never arrive any more Caesar Borgio was sick to the last Extremity when Alexander the Sixth died He was not prepared for that sudden Blow and when he found himself better 't was then too late the Opportunity was slipt But very certain it is that if he had not been so unluckily indisposed at that time he had not only preserved what he had gotten in his Father's Life but had also extended the bounds of that Estate which he gained by his Prudence and incomparable Dexterity Alexand. All this is not without a great appearance of truth I will consider of it In the mean time I must leave you by your self to dispatch a little business If you have any Advantage over the Spaniard you need not question put I 'le make good use of the favourable moment and endeavour to chase him out of the Kingdom of Naples provided at the same time that I find you are in a Condition to turn him out of the Dutchy of Millain Lewis I am ravished to find you inspired with such good Resolutions But before you go let me request you to expedite those Bulls which I have demanded of you with all the haste imaginable I will on my side take care to oblige my Bishops to dress up some odd fantastick Expedient or other to give satisfaction to your pretended Authority without doing any injury at the same time either to my own Rights or to theirs DIALOGUE II. Between the Great Duke of Tuscany and the Duke of Savoy Duke of Tuscany WEll I told you before that in my Judgment you had done much better to have complied with the King of France's desires then to come to trouble all Italy by your Opiniatreté and to consume us here with unprofitable Expences which 't is impossible for us to sustain Duke of Savoy How Could you ever imagine it to be my Interest to put Turin and Verceil into the hands of the French D. of Tuscany Look you there What a mighty disadvantage it would have been for you to have had your two best places guarded by the Troops of France You would rather have profited by it exceedingly since those Garrisons were to be paid at the Charges of Lewis the Fourteenth and must of Course have spent their Money in your Country D. of Savoy This is the true Language of a Prince who is only passionate to have his Coffers full but is not the Inclination of one who has a greater regard to his Glory than to his Interest Perhaps you are of Opinion too that I must lend my Troops to act against the Millanese D. of Tuscany Very well As if that had been the Design of his most Christian Majesty Don't you see that that Prince had no Resolution to make War in Italy He knew very well that the Spaniards armed with no other design but only to support you and that as soon as ever they had seen you reconciled to him they would have changed their Battery and as for himself he would have turned his Arms elsewhere D. of Savoy I am willing to believe what you have said though 't is to be feared he would have made his Advantage of that Occasion and finding himself stronger than the Spaniard would have attempted the Conquest of the Millanese But to come closer to you Do you think it fit that a Prince who is a Soveraign born should quit the most important Places of his Dominion and receive a Stranger into his Capital City to whose Laws he must be obliged to submit himself and to whose Rapines he must abandon his whole Country D. of Tuscany The truth is that Condition is somewhat mortifying but you should have considered withal that you had secured the Peace of Italy by that piece of Conduct The Duke of Mantua would have continued to go to Balls and Comedies according to his laudable Custom The Princes of and of would have continued to solace themselves in the Pleasures of Love The Republick of Venice had pursued their Conquests without Interruption and as for my own particular I had not been obliged to bleed my self as I may so say to maintain the War which is ready to pour its Fury upon us For in fine if France is powerful enough to chase you out of your Estate 't is not to be supposed that she will suffer the Millanese to enjoy their Repose long to whom she has a quarrel for declaring themselves in your favour Who knows but the Fire will spread further yet and if that happen shall we not be mightily beholding to you for forcing us to take up Arms to defend our respective Estates and to drive out the Enemy from thence who if he continue to make his Advances as he has begun will sooner or later enslave us all D. of Savoy By your reckoning I perceive I ought to have been the Ass in the Fable who was to be sacrificed for the good of the Common Cause But though I don 't altogether agree with you upon this Point yet I am very willing to be sacrificed for the Publick Benefit since I lye the nearest to the Enemy yet I desire withal that this Sacrifice may be done in such a manner that it may tend to some Advantage Now this is never likely to happen untill you will cordially assist and put me in a Capacity to support the Tempest of the War which is just falling down upon me If I had deliver'd up my strong Places and Troops as you know who demanded of me pray inform me what Advantage had you drawn from thence Had you not been exactly in the very same pain as you are at present and though you say that it was not his most Christian Majesties Design to push this Point any further who told you that he was possest with no such Ambition especially since he knew very well that as for your own part you had rather resign your self and all your Grandeur to your dearly beloved Ease than help to support the Burthen of War let it be never so just and necessary
of what we have said Lorrain Upon my word it would be a very great trouble to find one of that Character You must know that Men carry along with them the very same Passions which they entertained in the other World into these Territories and as every one has engaged himself more or less in one party or another so 't is a difficult matter to distinguish them and make them quit their beloved Sentiments Schomberg Well then since 't is so let us e'en be silent for I perceive we are in the Enemies Country DIALOGUE V. The Duke of Lorrain and the Elector Palatine Lorrain WHat another yet Sure 't is a Clymaterick Year for the Enemies of France I am just now come from the Ghost of the Duke of Schomberg and I fancy I perceive that of the Elector Palatine Elector Nay you are not deceived 'T is the very same But I think it is not necessary to run to the influence of the Stars to give a Reason for either of our deaths I am Threescore and five years old the Duke of Schomberg was older and besides that at the Head of an Army There was no occasion for the Stars to be concern'd in our Destiny or to hasten our Death at this Age. 'T is nothing but what is very natural and if Lewis the Fourteenth is obliged to any thing upon that score 't is rather to the number of our Years than to the Influences of the Planets Lorrain 'T is very true what you say It is no difficult matter to perceive that only Nature is concern'd in these Events but still Nature is too simple and obvious a thing for some Men They love Mysteries dearly in every thing as well as in Religion and I dare engage that though there was nothing but what was meerly natural in my death that some People have not fail'd to assign it to a Secret Cause Elector You need not question it In short you died of Poison France took care to give it you by corrupting some of your Domesticks or else by dispatching a Jesuite to do you that kindness for the World says you had no over great esteem for that Society Lorrain Well but did not those who assisted at my Death attested that I died of a Squinancy Elector Yes But People answer'd again that 't was a Report industriously spread to hinder that Secret and disguise the true Cause of your Death Others said that there was store of all sorts of Poison in the place where you were that 't is the nature of some Poison to suffocate those Persons that take it and that 't was with a Dose of the latter sort that you were Regaled Lorrain Alas 't was the former I ought to be believed upon my word I really died of a Squinancy and as for the latter I leave it to the decision of those worthy Gentlemen the Physicians They are too ingenious a sort of Men to be mistaken in so palpable a matter and methinks I hear them very gravely maintain that the Occasion of my Death was for taking some Suffocativum toxicum Elector Nay let them look to what they say We shall not dye the less for all that but nothing grieves me so much as that France is like to be a Gainer by our Deaths Lorrain Likely enough One may say that you and I were the two great Wheels upon which the whole Affairs of Germany turned and especially all those measures that were formed against the Crown of France It was your Province to concert Matters as it was mine to put them in execution You know his most Christian Majesty in the Manifesto which he published at the last Siege of Philipsburg did not fail to acquaint the World that you had incessantly sollicited all the Princes of Europe to associate against him However I am in good hopes that the loss of you is not irreparable and that his Electoral Highness your Son as he has inherited your Estate has also inherited the Hatred which you had so justly entertained against Lewis the Fourteenth and the Authority which you had so deservedly acquired in the Imperial Court Elector As for his hatred I have nothing more to say to it but that I suppose he has enough for his occasion But as for the Authority of which you spoke I am afraid whether he is so fortunate as to possess it The quality of being the Empresses Father gave me a certain Authority which that of a Brother does not invest one with Besides I had been for a long while acquainted with the Imperial Court I perfectly knew all the Intreagues and Methods of it On the other hand the Electoral Prince my Son is but a Novice there and consequently is not in a capacity of taking the justest measures against the Enemy of my Family Lorrain You have however this to comfort you that after all you lived long enough to see an honourable Provision made for your Family though it was so numerous 'T is about a year ago since you were in danger of quitting this World but as if Death it self had a mind to favour you it gave you leisure enough to marry one of your Daughters to the Prince of Parma another to the Prince of Poland and to secure the Crown of Portugal to your House by obtaining the Infanta for his Electoral Highness your Son Elector For as much as I see you have been but very ill informed Lorrain What say you then Is it not true These three Marriages I thought were as good as concluded before I left the other World Elector The first is consummated the second is pretty well advanced but the third is clearly broke off Lorrain Why you mightily surprize me now From whence I pray proceeded this sudden Change Did not the Grand Master of the Teutonick Order conduct the Queen your Daughter into Spain and was he not to touch at Lisbon in his way home to conclude the Marriage of the Electoral Prince with the Infanta and carry her along with him into Germany Elector All this is very true The Grand Master effectually dispatched his Business in Spain and was just come to the Frontiers of Portugal when an unexpected Message he received upon the way obliged him to return back They made a Report be raised that the occasion of it was because the Grandees of Portugal were not as yet resolved to assent to this Business but indeed there was another Mystery in the Case Lorrain For God's sake deliver me of my pain and tell me what it was Elector We were informed that the King of France had appear'd in the Market before us and play'd his Cards so well with the King of Portugal as to obtain the Infanta for the Dauphin his Son Lorrain And is the Infanta then married to the Dauphin Elector No No. At the same time when she was ordered to prepare for her Passage into France there happened a strange unlooked for Accident that broke off the March. Lorrain See what Rubs