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An apology, or, Defence of the divine art of natural astrologie being an answer to a sermon preached in Cambridge, July 25, 1652. ... / written by the learned and ingenious mathematician, Mr. George Atwell ... ; and now published by a friend ... vvhose preface is hereunto annexed.
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Atwell, George.
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Chambers for the bookes âake as I believe rather that it was so for that I have seen king Jamesâuoted in defence of Astrology whatsoever you say But here is âothing yet against the matter Oney it argues a wrangling spirit and you know what the Apostle saith If any man lust to be contentious we have no such custome neither have the Churches of Christ for the wrath of man doth not accomplish the righteousness of God But a meek Spirit is a thing before God much set by Again that that hath any seeming shew to be against the matter you altogether desire to draw from a confession of approving that which neither he nor Mâses nor any honest Astrologer will approve of As concerning his Definition of Astrology he sets it down as he mainteins it you as the Chaldeans used it so that because you can pick no hole in his coat for his Astrology therefore you quarrel against the Chaldeans Astrology Go tell the Chaldeans of it what is that to Sr Christopher it argues a wrangling Spirit Again how often boiles that Crambe of yours concerning the prediction of the death of Henry II. king of France upon a certain day by a wound in his head by a Conjurer if a Conjurer what is that to Astrology But I pray how did Doctor Fox tell that Queen Mary died that very hour in England he being in Germany Or Mr. Brightman the downfall of the Bishops doe you think they did it by help of the Devil I confesse I have found it the rash judgement of some that if they see any excellency in any thing that their shallow reach cannot aprehend Because mount Taurus shadows the Bull of Lemnos though 20 miles off they would have it removed if they could But Sir still you charge Sir Christopher with other mens tenents I do not think that you can prove that ever he predicted the very day of any mans death if he did you might have done well to have quoted the Page and not put us to read all his Book and yet misse of it when we have done and you to mock us for our labour Yet we see Physicians do ât sometimes though perhaps more ây help of Astrology then any phyâical notions If Hipâcrates or Gallen âell you of such a thing you will not âay they work by the Devil but Sciââtia nuâlum habet inimicum prâter ignââantâm yet this I will say it is posiâle out of a mans Nativity to give a âhrewd conjecture of such a thing âerhaps within a moneth or a week perhaps within a day why not â same day Yea whether he shallâ a violent death or no I pray Sir hââ you any skill in Astrology or not you have not then I say you knoâ as little what you say as they did the condemne me for working by ãâã Divel for telling distances before had measured them yet they ãâã honest men too But if you have skâ you either got it by help of the Deviâ as you say others doe or else by reading the Rules Aphorisââes of â as we doe Which if that be worâing by the Devil in us it is so in yoâ also But if it be lawful to read ãâã Rules or else how shall you be abâ to confute them Sir if you wiâ vouchsafe to take a little moâ paines I doubt not but yoâ your seâ shall easily be able to give a verâ neer conjecture of almost as great thing Then if you find the reasoâ in the one you may doe it in the other And having done I pray theâ tell me where lies the errour let the Question be how king Charles comâ to be beheaded and that time ãâã January 30 1648 1649. He was born in Scotland Anno 1600 Nov. 19 hora 10 4â² p. m. latitudo loci 57 medium coeli is â 37 the R. 17 13 oculus â and the â³ of â½ being both in â 4â² if you direct M. C. to them being both together and both signifying preferment especially oculus â as you may see in the rules of directions the R. of oculus â being 61 41. If thence you take the R. A. of M. C. 37. 13 the art of directions is 25. 28 which gives in time 25 years and somewhat more Likewise â¾ in 4. 29 of â makes her â³ dexter in 4 29 of â the R. As thereof is 62. 30 whence take 37. 13 rests 25. 17 which is a little less then ocu â but both are 25 years which added to 1600 the year of his birth being come to his kingdom Mar. 27 1625. And if you have skill as you pretend to have doth not the direction of M. C to the â¡ of â tell you nothing of the difference between him and the Parliament Anno 1641. And can you gather nothing out of M. C. to the Sesquiquadrant of â concerning the many battels fought in Anno 1643. And See more in the end of the Book Master Gaule of great Staugton in Huntingtonshire Rom. 11. 5 22 32. Rom 3. v. 23 24. ââb 16 17. Rom. 6. 9 10.
and hold till the Aequinoctial a strange thing to tell for they were Aetesae And I think they that know the reasons of other things in Astrology will as litle find fault with them as with these 13 What is the reason that a child born at 7 9 10 or 11 moneths from the Conception ordinarily liveth but a child at the eighth dieth lives not long or is alwayes sickly 14 If there be not something at least exceeding probable in Astrology how is it possible that knowing what accidents have befalne you and at what age together with the year and day of your birth or perhaps in an ordinary birth by the Christning day if it be not above a fortnight after to know the true hour and minute and again by knowing the true time of the birth can it be either impossible by reduction to find out either the same accidents or others that have befalne you and at what time and is it not the self-same labour to find what is to come as what is past and which of these three is unlawful 15 How came the Magi to know that the Star signified that 16 Were the Magi any other then plain Astrologers 17 How came they above all others to be so much respected that God should make a new Star on purposed to send so far for them 18 If there be not something in Astrology how came so many to know the times of their deaths before hand Julius Caesar Vitellius Caligula Domitian Picus Mirandula Galeatius Duke of Millaine Peter Leonicis Peter Aloisius Archbishop Pisan Philip king of Macedon Machabeus king of Scots Cambisis Epamonandas Amilcar Daphadus the Sophister Sigthimus king of Swesia Frederick the II Ezelinus the Roman tyrant cum multis aliis 19 Doth not that answer of our Saviour John 11. 19. seeme to defend elections of time are there not 12 hours in a day as if he should say in one hour he might walk safe among them in another nor 20 Quorsum haec Os homini sublime dedit coelumque videre Jussit exâctos ad sydera tollere vultus A face upright God gave to man the Stars that he might know All other creatures to the earth look onely to below 21 Would you have all these Phaenomena's all these new Stars Comets Eclipses and Parhelii that have been within these 80 years last past to signifie nothing never were the like in so short a time since the creation Annus 1572 77 80 85 90 93 96. 1600 602 604 607 618. in every of these years were either new Stars or Comets as Doctor Boreman in his Nuntius Propheticus hath reckoned them up Besides the Parhelii or three Suns that were seen in Lancashire Febr. 28 1648. being the birth day of Charles the first though not in the same year As also the Eclipse of the Sun the birth of Charles the second besides the Stars then appearing in the day time and seen of divers his birth was May 29 Saturday 1630 on Sunday following king Charles went to Pauls to give thanks and in the afternoon was a great Eclipse of the Sun which according to Maginus Ephemerides for the longitude of Venice he reckoned 10 digits 35 m. but he saith England Scotland should find a totall Eclipse upon which one wrote these verses Rex dum Paulinas accâssit gratus ad Aras Immicuit medio lucida Stella polo Dic arcana mihi tractans Aenigmata coeli Haec oriens nobis quid sibi Stella velit Magnus in occiduo Princeps modo nascitur Orbe Crasque sub eclipsi regna orientis orunt Thus much in English When as king Charles to Pauls did go to bless God for his Son The Stars appear'd in firmament and in the afternoon Toward six a clock of that same day the Sun eclipsed was I pray thee tell me what it means and what will come to passe Their Kingdom shall Eclipsed be these Stars doe speak it plain If I have any skill to judge these signes are not in vain Now which of these will you find fault with either you must deny there were such apparitions but you may as well deny there is any Sun at all or will you accuse God for making them then I confesse you silence me indeed Or will you denie they signifie no such thing that the event shewed Or will you denie the iugdment lawful then either shew some other way whereby Gods meaning may be known or else for shame never open your mouth more against Astrology but rather confess your fault and give glory to God with Acham for you have robbed him of his chief end in creating them in denying them to be signes or that no man knoweth their meaning I could name a hundred more the like events if time would permit 22 And who shall tell us the signification of all these but the Astrologer let the Minister interpret the word of God but the Astrologer his works especially of the Stars no question but God would have both interpreted ne sutor c. These Phaenomena's are Gods Embassadors to a land and that land is in an ill case that hath never a one that knowes their language No marvel then though Esay count it as a plague to have the Astrologer taken away And I fear if such Ministers as speak against Astrology should change places with Astrologers they would prove more unable to interpret these then the Astrologers the word 23 Is it likely that God that was so careful in time of the Prophets to forewarn his people and to comfort them alwayes in their miseries to send them still one Prophet or other to tell them of their freedome and hath he left us now no meanes in the time of the Gospel hath he no care of his Church now hath he forgot to be gracious God forbid Now if this or any other of these be granted then Astrology in general cannot be condemned but rather be commended and is it not an heynous sin in any especially in Ministers that will uphold Gods truth with a lie and so call evil good and good evil But you will object some goe too far in it I answer prove who they are and blame them that doe it and not the Art it self Blame not Moses because the Egyptians joyned inchantments with it But you will object that Horary Questions are unlawful because you say there can be no reason given that the propounding a question at such or such a time should produce a true answer I answer though no reason could be given yet finding by continual experience that they doe produce true answers wee cannot condemn them And you may aswel condemn laying Iron over Beer to keep it from sowring as this for no reason can be given either why thunder should sowre it or the Iron preserve it But besides experience we can give you reason sufficient if you are able to understand reason You know that though the will of man be free to propound his