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A01324 A reioynder to Bristows replie in defence of Allens scroll of articles and booke of purgatorie Also the cauils of Nicholas Sander D. in Diuinitie about the supper of our Lord, and the apologie of the Church of England, touching the doctrine thereof, confuted by William Fulke, Doctor in Diuinitie, and master of Pembroke Hall in Cambridge. Seene and allowed. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1581 (1581) STC 11448; ESTC S112728 578,974 809

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except_o all_o prayer_n that_o man_n make_v for_o themselves_o be_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o for_o the_o burial_n of_o papist_n claim_v by_o minister_n in_o england_n i_o think_v you_o belie_v they_o for_o they_o can_v be_v content_a you_o have_v all_o the_o obstinate_a papist_n in_o your_o bosom_n at_o loveine_n quick_a and_o dead_a but_o such_o as_o die_v among_o we_o we_o be_v not_o nice_a in_o deny_v they_o burial_n in_o the_o usual_a cemitery_n although_o we_o communicate_v not_o with_o they_o in_o their_o life_n yet_o always_o protest_v that_o more_o severe_a discipline_n be_v meet_v for_o they_o in_o their_o life_n and_o to_o be_v execute_v upon_o they_o even_o in_o their_o death_n after_o the_o example_n of_o cyprian_n time_n although_o we_o think_v worse_o of_o they_o then_o cyprian_n do_v of_o victor_n i_o say_v far_o that_o the_o place_n of_o possidonius_fw-la speak_v of_o the_o funeral_n of_o saint_n augustine_n prove_v that_o the_o sacrifice_n offer_v for_o the_o 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by_o commend_v the_o deposition_n of_o his_o body_n which_o be_v the_o lay_v it_o down_o in_o the_o grave_n he_o mean_v the_o commendation_n of_o his_o soul_n to_o god_n with_o such_o exposition_n he_o may_v prove_v what_o he_o will_v out_o of_o the_o doctor_n but_o to_o admit_v this_o monstrous_a interpretation_n how_o agree_v it_o with_o popery_n or_o augustine_n own_o opinion_n that_o see_v he_o be_v a_o perfect_a man_n &_o die_v in_o persecution_n while_o his_o city_n be_v besiege_v &_o the_o same_o day_n it_o be_v take_v that_o any_o sacrifice_n shall_v be_v offer_v for_o his_o soul_n see_v he_o himself_o say_v it_o be_v injury_n to_o pray_v for_o a_o martyr_n de_fw-fr verb._n ap._n 517_o but_o that_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v use_v in_o saint_n augustine_n time_n and_o at_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n it_o be_v not_o of_o i_o deny_v and_o therefore_o need_v not_o of_o bristol_n to_o be_v prove_v but_o he_o will_v make_v i_o both_o answerer_n and_o replyer_n because_o i_o grant_v that_o s._n augustine_n pray_v for_o his_o parent_n and_o yet_o taunt_v allen_n for_o translate_n memoriam_fw-la svi_fw-la a_o memory_n of_o she_o to_o be_v a_o memory_n for_o she_o as_o though_o she_o will_v have_v her_o son_n to_o be_v a_o chantrie_n priest_n to_o sing_v for_o she_o first_o i_o say_v that_o if_o the_o pope_n himself_o translate_v memoriam_fw-la svi_fw-la a_o memory_n for_o she_o the_o translation_n be_v false_a second_o where_o he_o say_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o price_n be_v offer_v for_o she_o i_o show_v that_o before_o that_o so_o he_o call_v the_o celebration_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n understand_v it_o nevertheless_o not_o to_o be_v the_o sacrifice_n itself_o that_o be_v once_o offer_v do_v perfect_o redeem_v we_o but_o a_o memory_n and_o thanksgiving_n for_o the_o same_o as_o i_o show_v out_o of_o augustine_n and_o other_o doctor_n pur._n 316._o and_o so_o forth_o in_o the_o rest_n unto_o the_o leaf_n 327._o final_o 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18._o &_o 21._o contra_fw-la advers._n leg._n &_o prophet_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 6._o 7._o 19_o 20._o and_o many_o other_o place_n through_o out_o his_o work_n of_o particular_a doctor_n whether_o saint_n augustine_n doubt_v of_o purgatory_n bristol_n that_o saint_n augustine_n allow_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a bristol_n cit_v many_o place_n but_o without_o need_n see_v fulke_n i_o contesse_v it_o but_o that_o he_o never_o doubt_v of_o purgatory_n that_o be_v not_o prove_v thereby_o the_o grecian_n at_o this_o day_n deny_v purgatory_n yet_o do_v they_o allowpraier_n for_o the_o dead_a whereas_o i_o cite_v saint_n augustine_n encher_n chapter_n 69._o it_o be_v not_o incredible_a that_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v do_v even_o after_o this_o life_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v so_o or_o no_o it_o may_v be_v inquire_v and_o either_o
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a_o harborow_n of_o faithful_a rest_n to_o the_o counterfeit_a authority_n of_o eusebius_n emissenus_fw-la that_o have_v serve_v for_o a_o patch_n to_o piece_n so_o many_o homily_n like_o the_o cukcowe_n song_n i_o will_v say_v no_o more_o than_o i_o say_v pur._n 143_o the_o authority_n of_o bernard_n in_o this_o case_n i_o always_o refuse_v as_o a_o late_a writer_n not_o sufficient_a to_o testify_v of_o the_o old_a faith_n or_o error_n either_o whether_o purgatory_n be_v only_o for_o venial_a sin_n bristow●_n stand_v upon_o augustine_n judgement_n enchirid._n cap._n fulke_n 69._o and_o other_o place_n i_o maintain_v that_o purgatory_n can_v not_o be_v by_o his_o judgement_n for_o great_a offence_n which_o by_o penance_n be_v make_v small_a against_o which_o allen_n cite_v augustine_n de_fw-fr vera_fw-la &_o falsa_fw-la poenitentia_fw-la that_o some_o sin_n be_v mort●l_a which_o by_o repentance_n be_v make_v venial_a etc._n etc._n which_o if_o they_o be_v not_o purge_v in_o this_o life_n require_v punishment_n a●ter_v this_o life_n etc._n etc._n and_o bristol_n note_v they_o more_o at_o large_a as_o though_o i_o have_v not_o understand_v they_o or_o not_o read_v the_o book_n the_o truth_n be_v i_o make_v none_o account_v of_o the_o counter●et_a book_n but_o note_v the_o impudency_n of_o allen_n that_o will_v cite_v it_o against_o the_o certain_a and_o know_v judgement_n of_o augustine_n whereas_o this_o counterfeit_a book_n if_o nothing_o else_o do_v bewray_v it_o in_o the_o 17._o chapter_n rehearse_v the_o opinion_n of_o augustine_n by_o name_n and_o do_v confute_v it_o but_o bristol_n pass_v impudence_n itself_o while_o he_o allege_v for_o the_o same_o with_o allen_n enchir._n ad_fw-la laurent_fw-fr cap._n 71._o where_o augustine_n say_v of_o the_o lord_n prayer_n in_o they_o that_o be_v regenerate_v delet_fw-la omnino_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o prayer_n altogether_o put_v away_o those_o small_a and_o daily_a sin_n also_o it_o put_v away_o even_o those_o sin_n 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