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A02568 The peace of Rome Proclaimed to all the world, by her famous Cardinall Bellarmine, and the no lesse famous casuist Nauarre. Whereof the one acknowledgeth, and numbers vp aboue three hundred differences of opinion, maintained in the popish church. The other confesses neere threescore differences amongst their owne doctors in one onely point of their religion. Gathered faithfully out of their writings in their own words, and diuided into foure bookes, and those into seuerall decads. Whereto is prefixed a serious disswasiue from poperie. By I.H. Azpilcueta, Martín de, 1492?-1586.; Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.; Bellarmino, Roberto Francesco Romolo, Saint, 1542-1621. Disputationes de controversiis Christianae fidei. English. Selections. 1609 (1609) STC 12696; ESTC S106027 106,338 252

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a_o man_n be_v by_o true_a generation_n descend_v from_o adam_n for_o in_o that_o he_o be_v in_o adam_n loin_n when_o he_o transgress_v he_o do_v communicate_v with_o his_o sin_n bellarmine_n 4._o book_n of_o loss_n of_o grace_n cap._n 12_o pag._n 400._o ten_o some_o popish_a doctor_n against_o thomas_n aquin_n and_o other_o etc._n all_o hold_v that_o no_o sin_n can_v have_v be_v traduce_v to_o mankind_n if_o eve_n alone_o have_v sin_v but_o in_o this_o they_o differ_v that_o some_o think_v from_o eve_n sin_n alone_o there_o will_v have_v grow_v a_o necessity_n of_o die_v to_o her_o son_n and_o the_o other_o inconvenience_n that_o follow_v mortality_n other_o hold_v that_o neither_o sin_n nor_o necessity_n of_o die_v will_v have_v follow_v this_o latter_a opinion_n be_v saint_n thomases_n 1.2_o q._n 81._o and_o without_o doubt_n very_o true_a bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 13._o p._n 402._o decad_n ii_o first_o all_o divine_n against_o thomas_n aquin._n the_o common_a opinion_n be_v etc._n that_o if_o the_o first_o man_n have_v not_o sin_v whosoever_o else_o shall_v sin_v his_o offence_n shall_v have_v be_v personal_a and_o particular_a and_o therefore_o can_v not_o infect_v and_o defile_v his_o posterity_n but_o yet_o s._n thomas_n seem_v to_o hold_v the_o contrary_a in_o his_o 5._o quaest_n of_o evil_a be_v 4._o but_o perhaps_o the_o place_n be_v corrupt_v bellarm_n l._n 4._o c._n 13._o p._n 403._o second_o capreolus_n caietanus_n and_o other_o against_o the_o common_a opinion_n though_o some_o catholic_n hold_v etc._n that_o opinion_n to_o have_v some_o more_o inclination_n to_o the_o truth_n which_o exempt_v none_o but_o christ_n from_o the_o state_n of_o original_a sin_n yet_o even_o those_o author_n do_v not_o condemn_v the_o contrary_a opinion_n as_o erroneous_a neither_o indeed_o can_n unless_o they_o will_v resist_v the_o decree_n of_o the_o general_a council_n of_o trent_n and_o of_o sixtus_n 4._o and_o pius_n the_o 5._o pope_n which_o if_o they_o do_v they_o shall_v not_o be_v reckon_v for_o catholic_n and_o of_o this_o opinion_n be_v capreolus_n caietanus_n and_o other_o bellarm._n l._n 4._o c._n 15._o &_o 16._o pag._n 409._o three_o bellarmine_n against_o some_o nameless_a papist_n there_o be_v that_o hold_n the_o bless_a virgin_n sin_v not_o in_o adam_n existiment_fw-la for_o they_o say_v that_o the_o law_n of_o not_o eat_v of_o the_o tree_n of_o the_o knowledge_n of_o good_a and_o evil_a be_v give_v to_o our_o parent_n for_o themselves_o and_o their_o posterity_n except_o the_o virgin_n marie_n which_o opinion_n seem_v to_o i_o not_o safe_a to_o be_v defend_v bellarm._n ibid._n cap._n 16._o pag._n 418._o four_o hofmeisterus_n and_o viruesius_n confute_v by_o bellar._n etc._n of_o our_o writer_n john_n hofmeisterus_n and_o alphonsus_n viruesius_n do_v scarce_o acknowledge_v there_o be_v any_o difference_n in_o this_o article_n of_o original_a sin_n betwixt_o we_o and_o the_o heretic_n but_o if_o it_o be_v well_o consider_v there_o be_v a_o double_a difference_n in_o our_o doctrine_n bellarm._n l._n 5._o of_o the_o loss_n of_o grace_n cap._n 4._o p._n 460._o five_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n against_o pighius_fw-la and_o catharinus_n etc._n the_o council_n of_o trent_n have_v define_v that_o original_a sin_n be_v not_o as_o one_o and_o the_o same_o in_o all_o but_o that_o every_o man_n have_v his_o own_o proper_a birth-sin_n against_o the_o false_a opinion_n of_o pighius_fw-la and_o catharinus_n bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 6._o p._n 472._o six_o two_o rank_n of_o popish_a doctor_n oppose_v by_o bellarm._n there_o do_v now_o remain_v two_o incommodious_a opinion_n of_o catholic_n to_o be_v confute_v etc._n some_o therefore_o of_o our_o author_n will_v have_v original_a sin_n to_o be_v nothing_o but_o concupiscence_n that_o be_v a_o faulty_a quality_n in_o the_o mind_n evermore_o stir_v up_o wicked_a desire_n so_o hold_v peter_n lombard_n in_o 2._o sent._n d._n 31._o henricus_fw-la b._n 2._o q._n 11._o gregorius_n ariminensis_n and_o of_o the_o late_a io._n driedo_n but_o this_o difference_n be_v betwixt_o henry_n and_o gregory_n that_o henry_n hold_v that_o evil_a quality_n of_o the_o soul_n to_o be_v a_o proneness_n to_o all_o evil_a gregory_n restrain_v it_o to_o the_o inclination_n unto_o that_o thing_n which_o be_v carnal_o delightful_a this_o opinion_n i_o think_v can_v be_v defend_v and_o a_o little_a after_o in_o all_o this_o we_o agree_v with_o peter_n lombard_n henricus_n gregory_n and_o the_o rest_n only_o here_o lie_v the_o question_n whether_o this_o faultiness_n of_o nature_n be_v a_o positive_a quality_n or_o not_o and_o whether_o it_o be_v proper_o and_o formal_o original_a sin_n they_o affirm_v both_o we_o deny_v both_o bellarm._n ib._n c_o 15._o p._n 548_o seventhly_a albert_n pighius_fw-la and_o catharinus_n and_o some_o ancient_a confute_v by_o bellarmine_n last_o remain_v to_o be_v confute_v error_n the_o error_n of_o albertus_n pighius_fw-la ambrose_n catharinus_n and_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_a as_o pet._n lomb._n report_v which_o be_v that_o original_a sin_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o the_o first_o disobedience_n of_o adam_n whereby_o the_o precept_n of_o god_n for_o not_o eat_v of_o the_o forbid_a tree_n be_v break_v etc._n etc._n but_o it_o be_v false_a and_o heretical_a that_o original_a sin_n be_v nothing_o else_o beside_o the_o first_o actual_a transgression_n of_o adam_n etc._n etc._n bellarm_n ibid._n cap._n 16._o pag._n 555._o eight_o four_o sort_n of_o popish_a doctor_n at_o irreconcilable_a variance_n etc._n there_o be_v five_o opinion_n of_o the_o estate_n and_o punishment_n of_o infant_n unbaptised_n after_o this_o life_n first_o of_o those_o which_o dare_v promise_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n to_o they_o though_o they_o deny_v not_o that_o they_o be_v bear_v in_o original_a sin_n so_o hold_v one_o vincentius_n of_o old_a and_o now_o late_o zuinglius_fw-la and_o many_o of_o the_o sectary_n of_o these_o time_n the_o second_o of_o they_o which_o exclude_v they_o from_o heaven_n but_o yet_o yield_v they_o a_o eternal_a and_o natural_a blessedness_n free_a from_o all_o sorrow_n and_o trouble_n out_o of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o the_o bless_a and_o far_o from_o the_o prison_n of_o the_o damn_a so_o do_v the_o pelagian_n hold_v as_o august_n b._n of_o heresy_n chap._n 88_o near_a to_o which_o opinion_n be_v ambrose_n catharinus_n albertus_n pighius_fw-la and_o hierome_n savanarola_n the_o three_o be_v that_o infant_n die_v without_o baptism_n be_v damn_v in_o hell_n to_o eternal_a death_n but_o yet_o so_o punish_v with_o want_n of_o the_o vision_n of_o god_n as_o that_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n they_o suffer_v no_o pain_n neither_o inward_a nor_o outward_a so_o teach_v s._n thomas_n in_o q._n 4._o of_o evil_a art_n 1.2_o etc._n etc._n and_o some_o other_o school_n doctor_n upon_o 2._o sent._n d._n 23._o the_o four_o opinion_n exempt_v such_o infant_n from_o the_o torment_n of_o the_o fire_n and_o worm_n whereof_o we_o read_v mar._n 9_o but_o not_o from_o a_o inward_a sorrow_n for_o the_o loss_n of_o their_o eternal_a blessedness_n so_o teach_v peter_n lombard_n upon_o 2._o sent._n and_o after_o he_o some_o other_o as_o s._n thomas_n s._n bonaventure_n and_o gregory_n ariminensis_n and_o other_o report_n the_o five_o which_o be_v the_o severe_a opinion_n teach_v that_o infant_n for_o their_o original_a sin_n be_v perpetual_o torment_v in_o hell_n with_o both_o sort_n of_o punishment_n of_o loss_n and_o of_o sense_n to_o which_o opinion_n incline_v gregorius_n ariminensis_n io._n driedo_n bellarm._n 6._o b._n of_o the_o loss_n of_o grace_n c._n 1._o p._n 174_o 175._o nine_o two_o sort_n of_o popish_a writer_n opposite_a the_o place_n wherein_o such_o infant_n do_v etc._n and_o shall_v live_v be_v the_o prison_n of_o hell_n a_o place_n dark_a and_o horrible_a as_o almost_o all_o the_o schoole-divines_a teach_v saint_n thomas_n s._n bonaventure_n scotus_n durandus_fw-la richardus_fw-la capreolus_n and_o other_o upon_o 2._o sent._n do_v 33._o and_o beside_o alexander_n alensis_n and_o albertus_n this_o difference_n only_o there_o be_v betwixt_o these_o old_a divine_n that_o some_o place_n infant_n in_o the_o high_a part_n of_o hell_n which_o they_o call_v limbum_fw-la puerorum_fw-la the_o verge_n of_o infant_n other_o say_v they_o have_v one_o common_a place_n with_o the_o damn_a thus_o the_o father_n of_o the_o florentine_a council_n teach_v etc._n etc._n bellarm._n ibid._n c._n 2._o p._n 582._o ten_o durandus_fw-la thomas_n bonaventure_n richardus_fw-la differ_v some_o of_o the_o old_a schoolman_n have_v hold_v scholasticorum_fw-la that_o those_o infant_n shall_v therefore_o have_v no_o sorrow_n for_o the_o loss_n of_o blessedness_n because_o they_o shall_v not_o know_v they_o have_v lose_v it_o which_o may_v be_v do_v only_o by_o faith_n this_o reason_n be_v approve_v by_o thomas_n in_o qu._n 2._o de_fw-la malo_fw-la but_o himself_o reprove_v it_o in_o 2._o sent._n
p._n 58._o seven_o erasmus_n and_o cajetan_n against_o bellarm._n and_o all_o other_o true_a catholic_n erasm_n in_o his_o note_n upon_o these_o epistle_n affirm_v etc._n that_o the_o epistle_n of_o james_n do_v not_o savour_v of_o a_o apostolic_a gravity_n he_o doubt_v of_o the_o second_o epistle_n of_o peter_n he_o affirm_v the_o second_o and_o three_o epistle_n of_o john_n be_v not_o write_v by_o john_n the_o apostle_n but_o by_o another_o of_o judes_n epistle_n he_o say_v nothing_o cajetan_a doubt_n of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o epistle_n of_o james_n of_o jude_n of_o the_o second_o and_o three_o of_o john_n and_o therefore_o will_v have_v they_o to_o be_v of_o less_o authority_n than_o the_o rest_n bellarmine_n just_o refute_v their_o opinion_n ch_n 18._o pag._n 86._o eight_o erasmus_n against_o all_o true_a catholic_n erasmus_n in_o the_o end_n of_o his_o note_n upon_o the_o revelation_n dubitarent_fw-la seek_v out_o many_o doubtful_a conjecture_n whereby_o he_o will_v prove_v this_o book_n of_o the_o revelation_n not_o to_o be_v write_v by_o john_n the_o apostle_n his_o three_o reason_n be_v true_o answer_v by_o bellarmine_n chap._n 19_o p._n 94._o nine_o genebrardus_n against_o bellarmine_n the_o four_o book_n of_o esdras_n be_v indeed_o cite_v by_o ambrose_n in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr bono_n mortis_fw-la etc._n and_o in_o his_o second_o book_n upon_o luke_n and_o in_o the_o 21._o epistle_n to_o horatian_n but_o doubtless_o it_o be_v not_o canonical_a since_o that_o it_o be_v not_o by_o any_o council_n account_v in_o the_o canon_n and_o be_v not_o find_v either_o in_o hebrew_a or_o greek_a and_o contain_v in_o the_o six_o chapter_n very_o fabulous_a toy_n i_o wonder_v therefore_o what_o come_v into_o genebrards_n mind_n that_o he_o will_v have_v this_o book_n pertain_v to_o the_o canon_n in_o his_o chronology_n pag._n 90._o bellarm._n chap._n 20._o pag._n 99_o ten_o jacobus_n christopolitanus_fw-la canus_n against_o bellarmine_n etc._n omit_v those_o therefore_o which_o false_o attribute_v too_o much_o purity_n unto_o the_o hebrew_n text_n we_o be_v to_o meet_v with_o other_o which_o in_o a_o good_a zeal_n but_o i_o know_v not_o whether_o according_a to_o knowledge_n defend_v that_o the_o jew_n in_o hatred_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n have_v purposely_o deprave_a many_o place_n of_o scripture_n so_o teach_v jacob_n bishop_n of_o christopolis_n in_o his_o praeface_n to_o the_o psalm_n and_o canus_n in_o his_o second_o book_n and_o thirteen_o chapter_n of_o common_a place_n these_o bellarmine_n confute_v by_o most_o weighty_a argument_n as_o he_o call_v they_o and_o show_v that_o by_o this_o defence_n the_o vulgar_a edition_n shall_v be_v most_o corrupt_a in_o 2._o book_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n chap._n 2._o pag._n 108._o decad_n ii_o first_o pagnin_n paulus_n forosempron_n eugubius_fw-la io._n mirandulanus_n driedo_n sixtus_n senensis_n all_o together_o by_o the_o ear_n concern_v this_o vulgar_a latin_a edition_n etc._n there_o be_v no_o small_a question_n that_o it_o be_v not_o jeromes_n be_v hold_v by_o sanctus_n pagninus_n in_o the_o praeface_n of_o his_o interpretation_n of_o the_o bible_n to_o clement_n the_o eight_o and_o paulus_n bishop_n of_o forosempronium_fw-la in_o his_o second_o book_n first_o chapter_n of_o the_o day_n of_o christ_n passion_n contrary_o that_o it_o be_v jeromes_n be_v defend_v by_o augustine_n eugubinus_n and_o johannes_n picus_n mirandulanus_n in_o book_n set_v out_o to_o that_o purpose_n and_o by_o some_o other_o but_o that_o it_o be_v mix_v both_o of_o the_o new_a and_o old_a be_v maintain_v by_o io._n driedo_n in_o his_o second_o book_n ch_n 1._o and_o sixtus_n senensis_n in_o his_o 8._o book_n of_o the_o holy_a library_n and_o the_o end_n bellarm._n 2._o book_n chap._n 9_o pag._n 135._o second_o bellarmine_n against_o some_o nameles_a author_n concern_v the_o translation_n of_o the_o septuagint_n etc._n though_o i_o know_v some_o hold_v it_o be_v utter_o lose_v yet_o i_o hold_v rather_o that_o it_o be_v so_o corrupt_v that_o it_o seem_v another_o bellarm._n 2._o book_n ch_n 6._o pag._n 127._o three_o valla_n faber_n erasmus_n and_o other_o against_o bellarmine_n that_o place_n rom._n 1.32_o not_o only_a kemnitius_n etc._n but_o also_o valla_n erasmus_n jacobus_n faber_n and_o other_o will_v have_v to_o be_v corrupt_v in_o the_o latin_a vulgar_a bellarmine_n confute_v they_o and_o will_v show_v that_o their_o latin_a translation_n herein_o be_v better_a than_o the_o greek_a original_a bellarm._n same_o book_n chap._n 14._o pag._n 168._o four_o card._n cajetan_n against_o bellarmine_n thomas_n caietanus_n in_o his_o treatise_n of_o the_o institut_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o b._n of_o rome_n etc._n chap._n 5._o teach_v that_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v for_o that_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n include_v the_o power_n of_o order_n and_o jurisdiction_n and_o somewhat_o more_o but_o this_o doctrine_n seem_v to_o we_o more_o subtle_a than_o true_a for_o it_o be_v never_o hear_v of_o that_o the_o church_n have_v any_o other_o key_n beside_o those_o of_o order_n and_o jurisdiction_n bellarm._n 1._o book_n of_o the_o pope_n ch_n 12._o pag._n 101._o five_o joachim_n raymundus_n a_o nameless_a frenchman_n against_o all_o catholic_n that_o there_o be_v three_o eternal_a spirit_n etc._n father_n son_n holy_a ghost_n essential_o differ_v be_v teach_v by_o a_o certain_a frenchman_n in_o anselmes_n time_n and_o the_o same_o seem_v to_o be_v hold_v by_o joachim_n the_o abbot_n in_o the_o year_n 1190._o and_o raymundus_n lullius_n in_o the_o year_n 1270._o confute_v by_o bellarmine_n in_o his_o first_o book_n de_fw-fr christo._n cha_n 2._o pag._n 37._o six_o erasmus_n confute_v by_o bellarmine_n bellarmines_n disputation_n against_o the_o transsiluani_n etc._n and_o erasmus_n as_o their_o patron_n concern_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n warrant_v from_o diverse_a place_n of_o scripture_n see_v bell._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr christo._n ch_z 6._o pag._n 72.73_o seven_o bellarmine_n against_o durandus_fw-la the_o four_o error_n be_v of_o durandus_fw-la in_o 3._o d._n 22._o q._n 3._o who_o teach_v &c_n that_o christ_n soul_n descend_v not_o to_o hell_n in_o substance_n but_o only_o in_o certain_a effect_n because_o it_o do_v illuminate_v those_o holy_a father_n which_o be_v in_o limbo_n which_o opinion_n to_o be_v erroneous_a and_o yet_o not_o so_o ill_a as_o caluin_n be_v prove_v by_o four_o argument_n and_o all_o his_o objection_n answer_v by_o bellarm._n l._n 4._o de_fw-la christo_fw-la ch_n 15._o pag._n 391.392_o etc._n etc._n eight_o bonaventure_n against_o thomas_n saint_n thomas_n p._n 3._o q._n 52._o art_n 2._o teach_v etc._n that_o christ_n by_o his_o real_a presence_n descend_v but_o to_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la and_o in_o effect_n only_o to_o the_o other_o place_n of_o hell_n but_o it_o be_v probable_a that_o his_o soul_n descend_v to_o all_o second_o saint_n thomas_n seem_v to_o say_v p._n 3._o q._n 52._o be_v 1._o that_o it_o be_v some_o punishment_n to_o christ_n to_o be_v in_o hell_n according_a to_o his_o soul_n etc._n etc._n and_o cajetan_n in_o act_n 2._o say_v that_o the_o sorrow_n of_o christ_n death_n continue_v in_o he_o till_o his_o resurrection_n in_o regard_n of_o three_o penalty_n whereof_o the_o second_o be_v that_o the_o soul_n remain_v in_o hell_n a_o place_n not_o convenient_a for_o it_o but_o bonavent_a in_o 3._o d._n 22._o q._n 4._o say_v that_o christ_n soul_n while_o it_o be_v in_o hell_n be_v in_o the_o place_n of_o punishment_n indeed_o but_o without_o punishment_n which_o seem_v to_o i_o more_o agreeable_a to_o the_o father_n bellarm._n l._n 4_o de_fw-fr christo._n c._n 16._o p._n 396.397_o etc._n etc._n nine_o bellarmine_n and_o all_o other_o papist_n against_o lyranus_fw-la nicolaus_n lyranus_fw-la be_v not_o of_o so_o great_a authority_n that_o we_o shall_v oppose_v he_o to_o all_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o historian_n etc._n which_o say_v that_o peter_n be_v slay_v at_o rome_n not_o as_o lyranus_fw-la at_o jerusalem_n bellarm._n l._n 2._o of_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n ch_n 10._o pag._n 210._o ten_o aeneas_n silvius_n confute_v by_o bellarmine_n etc._n that_o speech_n of_o aeneas_n silvius_n afterward_o pope_n that_o before_o the_o nicene_n council_n each_o man_n live_v to_o himself_o and_o there_o be_v small_a respect_n have_v of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v partly_o true_a and_o partly_o false_a it_o be_v true_a that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o pope_n be_v somewhat_o in_o those_o time_n hinder_v but_o it_o be_v not_o true_a that_o there_o be_v so_o little_a respect_n give_v he_o bellarm._n l._n 2._o de_fw-fr pontif._n c._n 17._o pag_n 252._o decad_n iii_o first_o martinus_n polonus_n confute_v by_o bellarmine_n the_o confutation_n of_o martinus_n polonus_n which_o live_v an._n 1250._o in_o that_o story_n