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special_o be_v exalt_v according_a to_o his_o manhood_n in_o glory_n for_o that_o in_o humility_n and_o meekness_n he_o suffer_v most_o unjust_o 2._o philipp_n 2._o even_o so_o he_o grant_v to_o they_o the_o great_a merit_n of_o his_o death_n who_o by_o his_o grace_n suffer_v together_o with_o he_o unjust_o for_o the_o defence_n of_o his_o justice_n as_o the_o holy_a apostle_n and_o martyr_n have_v do_v that_o â—0_n in_o joan._n tractatu_fw-la â—0_n which_o m._n jewel_n here_o say_v out_o of_o s._n augustine_n that_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n work_v because_o it_o be_v beleve_v prove_v faith_n to_o be_v necessary_a which_o thing_n we_o grant_v but_o it_o prove_v it_o not_o to_o be_v sufficient_a alone_o which_o be_v the_o point_n we_o spâ—ke_v of_o jewel_n pag._n 29â—_n hesychius_n say_v the_o grace_n of_o goâ—_n be_v receive_v by_o only_a faith_n 14._o in_o levit._n lib._n 4._o ca._n 14._o harding_n 14._o lib._n 4._o cap._n 14._o you_o lâ—ave_v out_o half_a as_o your_o custom_n 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bring_v many_o such_o speech_n out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n if_o i_o think_v this_o may_v not_o suffice_v he_o be_v a_o contentious_a wrangler_n who_o know_v our_o meaning_n do_v pike_n quarrel_n of_o dissension_n upon_o word_n only_o take_v in_o evil_a sense_n the_o good_a sense_n dissemble_v jewel_n ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la wherefore_o say_v you_o thus_o of_o thomas_n becket_n o_o christ_n make_v we_o to_o ascend_v unto_o heaven_n whither_o thomas_n be_v ascend_v even_o by_o the_o blood_n of_o thomas_n that_o he_o shed_v for_o thy_o sake_n here_o you_o seek_v salvation_n in_o the_o blood_n of_o thomas_n harding_n this_o be_v a_o objection_n for_o a_o cobbler_n as_o the_o other_o be_v and_o not_o for_o a_o divine_a 37._o how_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o say_v in_o prayer_n super_fw-la thomae_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la and_o the_o like_a esai_n 37._o who_o duty_n it_o be_v to_o depend_v of_o thing_n and_o not_o of_o word_n albeit_o you_o make_v it_o otherwise_o to_o your_o advantage_n than_o the_o latin_a word_n report_n yet_o thus_o we_o say_v it_o be_v lawful_a to_o ask_v mercy_n of_o god_n only_o for_o his_o own_o sake_n it_o be_v lawful_a also_o at_o the_o time_n of_o ask_v mercy_n to_o present_v to_o he_o the_o remembrance_n of_o any_o gift_n or_o grace_n of_o he_o god_n himself_o say_v by_o his_o prophet_n isaias_n protegem_fw-la civitatem_fw-la istam_fw-la ut_fw-la saluem_fw-la eam_fw-la propter_fw-la i_o &_o propter_fw-la david_n seruum_fw-la meum_fw-la i_o will_v defend_v this_o city_n to_o save_v it_o for_o my_o own_o sake_n and_o for_o davide_v sake_n my_o servant_n now_o because_o we_o know_v it_o be_v a_o most_o gracious_a gift_n of_o god_n that_o he_o give_v s._n thomas_n grace_n to_o dye_v for_o his_o honour_n
the_o emperor_n constantinus_n in_o his_o letter_n to_o the_o people_n of_o nicomodia_n 19_o theodorit_n li._n 1._o c._n 19_o speak_v of_o the_o wilful_a error_n and_o heresy_n of_o priest_n and_o bishop_n say_v thus_o illorum_fw-la temeraria_fw-la praesumptio_fw-la mea_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la ministri_fw-la christi_fw-la manu_fw-la coercebitur_fw-la their_o rash_a attempt_n shall_v be_v repress_v by_o my_o hand_n that_o be_v to_o say_v by_o the_o hand_n of_o christ_n servant_n 7._o august_n contra_fw-la epist_n parme._n li._n 1._o cap._n 7._o so_o likewise_o s._n augustine_n say_v to_o the_o donatist_n a_o fortè_fw-la de_fw-la religione_fw-la fas_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la dicat_fw-la imperator_fw-la vel_fw-la quos_fw-la miserit_fw-la imperator_fw-la cur_n ergo_fw-la ad_fw-la imperatorem_fw-la legati_fw-la vestri_fw-la venerant_fw-la be_v it_o not_o lawful_a that_o the_o emperor_n or_o the_o emperor_n deputy_n shall_v pronounce_v in_o a_o case_n of_o religion_n wherefore_o 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