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with_o one_o accord_n understand_v the_o grave_n as_o be_v the_o ordinary_a sequel_n of_o temporal_a death_n 1._o b._n p._n 12._o 12._o here_o he_o understand_v in_o this_o place_n temporal_a death_n whereof_o the_o grave_n be_v a_o ordinary_a sequel_n and_o yet_o in_o the_o next_o page_n follow_v he_o affirm_v the_o contrary_a wherefore_o death_n in_o that_o place_n can_v signify_v the_o separation_n and_o dissolution_n of_o the_o soul_n from_o the_o body_n which_o be_v only_o temporal_a but_o the_o divorcement_n and_o sequestration_n both_o of_o body_n &_o soul_n from_o god_n 1._o b._n p._n 13._o 13._o 5._o neither_o can_v this_o word_n grave_n signify_v any_o other_o place_n than_o the_o place_n of_o corruption_n and_o mortality_n 1._o b._n p._n 12._o 12._o and_o yet_o the_o word_n avad_v psal._n 88_o 10._o which_o the_o septuag_n translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o latin_a in_o sepulchro_fw-la in_o the_o grave_n he_o say_v be_v mean_v of_o hell_n 3._o b._n p._n 28._o 28._o 6._o who_o shall_v give_v thou_o thanks_n in_o the_o pit_n psal._n 6._o 5._o by_o which_o last_o word_n all_o our_o late_a interpreter_n do_v with_o one_o consent_n understand_v the_o grave_n etc._n etc._n which_o can_v signify_v no_o other_o place_n than_o the_o place_n of_o corruption_n and_o mortality_n 1._o b._n p._n 12._o 12._o and_o again_o no_o english_a translator_n turn_v sheol_n grave_n in_o this_o place_n but_o pit_n which_o most_o fit_o and_o true_o agree_v to_o hell_n 3._o b._n p._n 26._o 26._o thus_o in_o the_o same_o place_n the_o same_o word_n shall_v signify_v both_o the_o grave_n and_o hell_n 7._o he_o fond_o reprove_v the_o replyer_n for_o run_v from_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o the_o old_a and_o from_o the_o greek_a to_o the_o hebrew_n 2._o b._n p._n 120._o 120._o you_o well_o perceive_v the_o greek_a be_v utter_o against_o you_o and_o therefore_o cunning_o but_o cowardly_a you_o forsake_v it_o and_o fly_v to_o the_o hebrew_n ibid._n p._n 121._o 121_o yet_o he_o himself_o do_v the_o same_o which_o to_o be_v so_o in_o this_o place_n if_o you_o will_v grant_v the_o hebrew_n to_o have_v have_v any_o skill_n in_o their_o own_o natural_a language_n you_o must_v needs_o confess_v 1._o b._n p._n 16._o 16._o be_v it_o lawful_a for_o he_o to_o have_v recourse_n unto_o the_o hebrew_a writer_n and_o a_o fault_n in_o the_o other_o to_o run_v unto_o the_o hebrew_a scripture_n 8._o now_o if_o you_o take_v exception_n say_v this_o contradict_a against_o this_o read_n as_o mistranslate_v in_o all_o our_o bibles_n which_o i_o see_v not_o by_o what_o right_n you_o can_v do_v be_v public_o authorise_v 1._o b._n p._n 26._o 26._o and_o 2._o b._n p._n 130._o 130._o he_o call_v it_o a_o authorise_a translation_n yet_o he_o himself_o most_o scornful_o reject_v the_o great_a english_a bible_n authorize_v public_o to_o be_v read_v as_o have_v be_v show_v before_o imputat_fw-la 8._o recriminat_fw-la 6._o 9_o he_o find_v fault_n with_o the_o replyer_n for_o translate_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tell_v he_o his_o fault_n as_o the_o geneva_n translation_n and_o great_a bible_n read_v 2._o b._n p._n 67._o 67._o &_o yet_o he_o himself_o translate_v the_o same_o word_n 13._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d tell_v thy_o neighbour_n round_o of_o his_o fault_n ibid._n p._n 71._o 71._o 10._o he_o say_v that_o faithful_a perseverance_n in_o piety_n be_v the_o final_a possession_n of_o the_o land_n of_o promise_n 2._o b._n p._n 113._o 113._o and_o yet_o else_o where_o he_o deny_v that_o the_o true_a joy_n of_o heaven_n may_v be_v in_o this_o world_n 2._o b._n p._n 207._o 207._o for_o if_o a_o man_n by_o faithful_a perseverance_n have_v in_o this_o life_n a_o sure_a hope_n and_o by_o hope_n possession_n of_o heaven_n how_o have_v he_o not_o some_o true_a
unto_o but_o not_o to_o that_o end_n and_o he_o which_o hold_v that_o the_o scripture_n must_v not_o be_v abuse_v to_o enchantment_n confess_v they_o may_v be_v abuse_v but_o no_o to_o that_o end_n or_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o swear_v false_o by_o the_o creature_n as_o the_o heaven_n the_o earth_n therefore_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o swear_v by_o they_o but_o not_o false_o which_o indeed_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o pharisy_n math._n 5._o 33._o but_o our_o saviour_n reach_v the_o contrary_a that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o swear_v at_o all_o by_o any_o creature_n and_o what_o think_v he_o of_o this_o proposition_n it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o swear_v to_o the_o pope_n to_o assist_v he_o invade_v the_o land_n before_o the_o king_n do_v it_o follow_v therefore_o that_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o swear_v to_o the_o pope_n so_o that_o it_o be_v not_o to_o that_o end_n and_o may_v not_o this_o argument_n be_v return_v upon_o himself_o christ_n descend_v not_o to_o limbus_n to_o deliver_v the_o patriarch_n i_o think_v he_o will_v deny_v this_o proposition_n than_o he_o must_v grant_v by_o his_o own_o consequent_a that_o christ_n descend_v to_o limbus_n indeed_o in_o a_o affirmative_a proposition_n it_o hold_v as_o it_o can_v not_o be_v confess_v that_o christ_n descend_v to_o limbus_n to_o deliver_v the_o patriarch_n but_o first_o it_o must_v be_v grant_v that_o he_o descend_v to_o limbus_n but_o in_o the_o negative_a it_o be_v not_o so_o 2._o the_o replyer_n in_o that_o place_n ground_v his_o argument_n upon_o the_o latin_a text_n that_o christ_n loose_v the_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n show_v that_o see_v he_o loose_v the_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n for_o himself_o they_o can_v not_o be_v the_o sorrow_n of_o the_o local_a hell_n for_o he_o feel_v not_o the_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n after_o death_n 1017._o and_o here_o he_o say_v he_o be_v never_o in_o the_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n after_o death_n here_o be_v no_o contradiction_n at_o all_o if_o he_o can_v find_v any_o place_n where_o the_o replyer_n affirm_v that_o christ_n loose_v the_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n for_o himself_o after_o death_n he_o will_v grant_v a_o contradiction_n but_o to_o say_v that_o christ_n loose_v not_o the_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n for_o himself_o after_o death_n and_o yet_o that_o he_o loose_v the_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n for_o himself_o be_v not_o contradictory_n but_o do_v imply_v that_o he_o speak_v of_o other_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n which_o christ_n loose_v than_o those_o after_o death_n see_v than_o he_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o same_o sorrow_n of_o hell_n there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n and_o that_o this_o caviller_n know_v right_o well_o 3._o as_o though_o the_o same_o hebrew_n word_n may_v not_o proper_o signify_v two_o distinct_a thing_n contain_v in_o one_o general_a sense_n as_o gez_fw-fr signify_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v cut_v and_o therefore_o some_o translate_v a_o fleece_n psal._n 72._o 5._o as_o the_o latin_a and_o montanus_n some_o the_o mow_v grass_n as_o vatab._n jun._n because_o they_o both_o use_v to_o be_v cut_v 12._o and_o concern_v this_o word_n nephesh_n his_o great_a master_n confess_v significat_fw-la sine_fw-la ullo_fw-la tropo_fw-it tam_fw-la animam_fw-la quam_fw-la animal_n immo_fw-la etiam_fw-la corpus_fw-la it_o signify_v without_o any_o trope_n as_o well_o the_o soul_n as_o the_o live_a creature_n yea_o the_o body_n these_o i_o hope_v be_v all_o distinct_a thing_n yea_o this_o palterer_n confess_v that_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o that_o it_o signify_v all_o those_o three_o thing_n give_v in_o instance_n by_o bellarmine_n lib._n 2._o p._n 159._o 160._o 160._o but_o that_o the_o replyer_n say_v these_o word_n be_v take_v for_o the_o soul_n and_o hell_n only_o be_v a_o manifest_a untruth_n 1005._o for_o in_o the_o place_n quote_v he_o confess_v in_o direct_a word_n untruth_n that_o in_o some_o place_n the_o soul_n be_v take_v for_o life_n but_o contend_v that_o isa._n 53._o 10._o it_o be_v proper_o take_v for_o the_o soul_n 4._o the_o replyer_n when_o he_o say_v these_o word_n do_v proper_o signify_v life_n and_o the_o grave_n speak_v of_o the_o hebrew_n word_n nephesh_a and_o sheol_n when_o he_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v here_o take_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o the_o life_n he_o mean_v this_o word_n english_v soul_n like_v as_o anima_fw-la in_o latin_a indifferent_o signify_v the_o soul_n or_o life_n therefore_o this_o be_v no_o contradiction_n to_o say_v that_o the_o hebrew_n nephesh_n sometime_o signify_v life_n without_o a_o figure_n as_o levit._fw-la 17._o 14._o the_o nephesh_n the_o life_n of_o all_o flesh_n be_v his_o blood_n it_o be_v improper_a to_o say_v the_o soul_n of_o all_o flesh_n and_o that_o the_o english_v and_o translate_v word_n soul_n be_v not_o take_v for_o life_n without_o a_o figure_n for_o this_o trifler_n confess_v that_o the_o hebrew_n word_n nephesh_n be_v more_o general_a in_o signification_n ibid._n then_o either_o the_o latin_a word_n anima_fw-la or_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o his_o ringleader_n confess_v of_o who_o he_o borrow_v it_o and_o yet_o either_o of_o these_o be_v more_o large_a and_o general_a than_o the_o english_a word_n soul_n 5._o the_o replyer_n in_o that_o place_n do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o use_v that_o term_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1050._o he_o both_o there_o and_o in_o other_o place_n allege_v that_o as_o a_o reasonable_a and_o fit_a exposition_n to_o take_v soul_n for_o the_o person_n but_o he_o rather_o prefer_v the_o other_o sense_n to_o take_v soul_n for_o life_n limbom_n p._n 9_o to_o bring_v two_o probable_a interpretation_n of_o a_o place_n as_o indifferent_a to_o be_v receive_v and_o of_o the_o two_o to_o prefer_v the_o more_o likely_a be_v no_o contradiction_n 6._o to_o deny_v that_o not_o and_o neither_o do_v not_o always_o show_v two_o distinct_a clause_n and_o that_o sometime_o they_o argue_v no_o great_a difference_n or_o diversity_n he_o that_o say_v they_o be_v speech_n contrary_a show_v himself_o to_o be_v contrary_a to_o reason_n unless_o he_o think_v there_o be_v no_o difference_n between_o a_o plain_a distinction_n and_o a_o small_a diversity_n have_v he_o so_o much_o forget_v his_o logic_n that_o he_o know_v not_o diversa_fw-la to_o be_v define_v which_o dissent_v only_o in_o some_o reason_n and_o respect_n and_o opposita_fw-la to_o be_v such_o as_o differ_v re_fw-mi &_o ratione_fw-la both_o in_o respect_n and_o in_o deed_n and_o effect_n and_o whereas_o the_o replyer_n say_v be_v it_o admit_v that_o these_o particle_n do_v infer_v a_o distinction_n in_o the_o sentence_n etc._n etc._n do_v he_o revoke_v any_o thing_n be_v he_o so_o blind_a that_o he_o can_v not_o discern_v between_o a_o simple_a assertion_n and_o that_o which_o proceed_v upon_o a_o supposal_n and_o conditional_a grant_n but_o what_o new_a wine_n have_v intoxicate_v his_o brain_n when_o he_o let_v these_o word_n fall_v from_o his_o pen_n you_o present_o revoke_v it_o and_o convince_v yourself_o of_o falsehood_n in_o condescend_v to_o a_o truth_n truth_n i_o think_v it_o have_v be_v simplicity_n rather_o and_o integrity_n to_o condescend_v to_o a_o truth_n and_o not_o falsehood_n if_o this_o be_v falsehood_n to_o condescend_v to_o a_o truth_n than_o it_o be_v simplicity_n and_o plainness_n to_o contradict_v the_o truth_n this_o may_v be_v the_o reason_n that_o he_o be_v so_o adverse_a to_o the_o truth_n it_o be_v one_o of_o his_o virtue_n but_o such_o falsehood_n to_o yield_v to_o the_o truth_n god_n send_v i_o and_o let_v he_o take_v his_o plain_a deal_n to_o him-himselfe_a whosoever_o have_v the_o blow_n i_o be_o sure_a he_o have_v the_o wound_n and_o feel_v the_o smart_n too_o as_o the_o orator_n say_v luculentam_fw-la ipse_fw-la plagam_fw-la accepit_fw-la ut_fw-la declarat_fw-la cicatrix_fw-la 7._o he_o have_v receive_v a_o sufficient_a veny_n as_o the_o scar_n declare_v 7._o the_o replyer_n in_o that_o place_n 43._o say_v out_o of_o augustine_n judgement_n that_o abraham_n bosom_n be_v no_o part_n of_o hell_n he_o name_v not_o limbus_n it_o seem_v he_o himself_o have_v a_o conceit_n that_o way_n in_o make_v abraham_n bosom_n and_o limbus_n all_o one_o but_o for_o his_o own_o opinion_n the_o replyer_n think_v that_o limbus_n patrum_fw-la be_v neither_o part_n of_o hell_n nor_o of_o any_o place_n else_o no_o more_o than_o purgatory_n be_v yet_o he_o be_v not_o ignorant_a but_o that_o his_o great_a master_n make_v it_o a_o member_n of_o hell_n so_o then_o the_o question_n be_v propound_v in_o the_o romanist_n sense_n to_o say_v sometime_o christ_n descend_v not_o to_o hell_n and_o otherwhile_o that_o he_o descend_v not_o to_o limbus_n to_o deliver_v the_o father_n be_v no_o contradiction_n 8._o the_o replyer_n word_n be_v these_o
17._o his_o glory_n victory_n and_o triumph_v only_o remain_v so_o that_o he_o fraudulent_o put_v in_o unaccomplish_v of_o his_o own_o the_o replyer_n say_v that_o christ_n triumph_v over_o death_n hell_n and_o the_o devil_n upon_o the_o cross_n that_o be_v the_o victory_n and_o triumph_n be_v then_o obtain_v and_o yet_o his_o glory_n victory_n and_o triumph_v remain_v that_o be_v it_o be_v not_o yet_o manifest_v and_o publish_v for_o this_o word_n triumph_n though_o it_o proper_o signify_v the_o public_a solemnity_n that_o follow_v after_o the_o victory_n as_o the_o roman_a captain_n have_v their_o honourable_a triumph_n public_o solemnize_v in_o the_o city_n after_o their_o victorious_a return_n in_o which_o sense_n he_o that_o so_o triumph_v be_v call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o triumphant_a man_n plutark_o yet_o in_o scripture_n they_o be_v say_v to_o triumph_n 14._o that_o do_v overcome_v as_o paul_n say_v thank_n be_v to_o god_n which_o always_o make_v we_o to_o triumph_v 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