all_o true_a doctrine_n be_v teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n purgatory_n be_v not_o teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n therefore_o purgatory_n be_v no_o true_a doctrine_n bristol_n deny_v both_o the_o mayor_n and_o minor_fw-la the_o mayor_n i_o have_v prove_v in_o this_o chapter_n part_v 1._o after_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o 8._o text_n of_o scripture_n the_o minor_a he_o will_v prove_v to_o be_v false_a by_o these_o reason_n first_o purgatory_n be_v teach_v in_o the_o scripture_n in_o the_o maccabee_n which_o he_o say_v be_v in_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o true_a church_n which_o i_o also_o confess_v to_o be_v the_o true_a church_n in_o the_o third_o counce_v 〈…〉_o of_o carthage_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v canonical_a if_o any_o other_o scripture_n be_v canonical_a suppose_v that_o which_o be_v false_a that_o the_o macabee_n be_v canonical_a yet_o be_v not_o purgatory_n prove_v by_o they_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o necessary_o draw_v purgatory_n after_o it_o the_o 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teach_v say_v bristol_n special_o against_o you_o sir._n john_n 11._o for_o you_o say_v after_o your_o manner_n pass_v confident_o that_o martha_n and_o marie_n as_o the_o scripture_n be_v manifest_a do_v not_o hope_v for_o any_o restitution_n of_o their_o brother_n lazarus_n to_o his_o body_n before_o the_o general_a resurrection_n if_o that_o be_v so_o manifest_a what_o else_o be_v it_o then_o but_o the_o rest_n of_o his_o soul_n that_o martha_n will_v have_v christ_n to_o pray_v for_o when_o she_o say_v thus_o unto_o he_o but_o also_o now_o i_o know_v that_o what_o soever_o thing_n thou_o shall_v ask_v of_o god_n god_n will_v grant_v thou_o to_o which_o purpose_n also_o some_o ancient_a writer_n expound_v the_o place_n thus_o far_o bristol_n but_o i_o pray_v you_o sir_n why_o do_v you_o not_o tell_v we_o the_o name_n at_o least_o of_o those_o ancient_a writer_n that_o so_o expound_v the_o place_n peradventure_o they_o be_v not_o worth_a the_o name_n but_o be_v you_o such_o a_o 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then_o to_o play_v with_o they_o at_o your_o pleasure_n 2_o ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la scripturae_fw-la affirmatiuè_fw-fr first_n about_o certain_a bristol_n foundation_n of_o purgatory_n and_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a i_o say_v the_o word_n of_o god_n overthrow_v the_o popish_a distinction_n of_o sin_n mortal_a &_o venial_a show_v that_o fulke_n all_o sin_n of_o their_o own_o nature_n deserve_v eternal_a death_n and_o yet_o all_o by_o the_o mercy_n of_o god_n be_v pardonable_a or_o venial_a except_o the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n bristol_n say_v that_o i_o here_o grant_v the_o doctrine_n and_o yet_o deny_v the_o distinction_n which_o be_v utter_o false_a for_o that_o all_o sin_n deserve_v eternal_a death_n and_o yet_o be_v pardonable_a it_o overthrow_v the_o doctrine_n and_o distinction_n both_o for_o the_o papist_n hold_v that_o there_o be_v some_o sin_n so_o small_a as_o they_o deserve_v not_o in_o their_o own_o nature_n eternal_a damnation_n as_o bristol_n immediate_o hereafter_o confess_v where_o he_o deni_v that_o the_o curse_n of_o god_n pronounce_v deut._n 27._o and_o gal._n 3._o against_o all_o they_o that_o abide_v not_o in_o all_o thing_n write_v in_o the_o law_n extend_v not_o unto_o eternal_a death_n say_v that_o hang_n on_o tree_n or_o crucify_a be_v not_o eternal_a death_n and_o yet_o be_v accurse_v of_o god_n deut._n 21._o again_o every_o one_o in_o the_o say_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o mean_v of_o christian_n but_o of_o they_o which_o trust_v in_o the_o law_n itself_o &c._n &c._n do_v you_o not_o hear_v plain_o the_o old_a serpent_n voice_n nequaquam_fw-la moriemini_fw-la tush_o you_o shall_v not_o die_v the_o curse_n of_o god_n do_v not_o bring_v eternal_a death_n you_o need_v not_o be_v so_o great_o afraid_a of_o it_o &_o c_o but_o where_o learn_v you_o bristol_n that_o the_o curse_n of_o god_n which_o be_v upon_o he_o that_o hang_v on_o tree_n be_v not_o a_o visible_a token_n that_o he_o deserve_v eternal_a death_n be_v â—ot_n the_o text_n plain_a against_o you_o deut._n 21._o when_o a_o man_n â—ath_v sin_v worthy_a of_o death_n and_o be_v judge_v to_o death_n &_o â—anged_v on_o the_o tree_n his_o carcase_n shall_v not_o remain_v upon_o 〈…〉_o e_o tree_n but_o shall_v be_v bury_v the_o same_o day_n for_o he_o be_v accur_v 〈…〉_o d_o of_o god_n that_o be_v hang_v on_o the_o tree_n therefore_o thou_o 〈…〉_o alt_z not_o defile_v the_o land_n which_o the_o lord_n thy_o god_n have_v â—iven_v thou_o to_o possess_v he_o be_v not_o therefore_o accurse_v because_o he_o be_v hang_v on_o the_o tree_n if_o he_o be_v innocent_a but_o because_o he_o have_v sin_v worthy_a of_o death_n &_o so_o be_v hang_v 〈◊〉_d which_o respect_n our_o saviour_n christ_n be_v hang_v on_o 〈…〉_o e_o tree_n though_o most_o innocent_a in_o his_o own_o person_n 〈…〉_o et_fw-fr bear_v the_o guiltiness_n of_o all_o our_o sin_n become_v accurse_v for_o we_o not_o to_o discharge_v we_o of_o such_o a_o curse_n 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o bring_v 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of_o our_o 〈…〉_o nnes_n in_o baptism_n but_o we_o be_v save_v by_o baptism_n as_o we_o â—re_n enfeoff_v by_o a_o deed_n that_o be_v seal_v that_o be_v assure_v of_o valuation_n as_o abraham_n receive_v circumcision_n the_o seal_n â—f_o the_o righteousness_n which_o he_o have_v by_o faith_n before_o he_o be_v circumcise_v ro._n 4._o and_o even_o so_o he_o cleanse_v his_o church_n by_o â—he_n laver_v of_o water_n not_o by_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o work_n of_o baptism_n but_o in_o that_o he_o give_v himself_o for_o it_o that_o he_o may_v sanctify_v it_o eph._n 5._o after_o the_o same_o manner_n do_v baptism_n save_o us._n 1._o pet._n 3._o not_o the_o put_n off_o of_o the_o filth_n of_o the_o flesh_n â—ut_v the_o interrogation_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n before_o god_n through_o the_o resurrection_n of_o jesus_n christ_n which_o presuppoâ—eth_v his_o death_n for_o satisfaction_n of_o our_o sin_n as_o his_o resurrection_n be_v the_o special_a cause_n of_o our_o justification_n last_o of_o â—ll_a say_v bristol_n he_o have_v make_v we_o king_n &_o priest_n to_o god_n apo._n 1._o if_o spiritual_a priest_n ergo_fw-la to_o offer_v up_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n as_o of_o 〈…〉_o ur_fw-la mortification_n rom._n 12._o our_o alm_n deed_n heb._n 13._o both_o for_o our_o twne_a sin_n &_o for_o the_o sin_n of_o other_o here_o in_o the_o last_o point_n â—he_v quotation_n of_o scripture_n so_o plentiful_a before_o fail_v but_o we_o shall_v have_v reason_n confirm_v by_o scripture_n because_o the_o external_a priest_n be_v ordain_v to_o offer_v external_a sacrifice_n for_o sin_n â—oth_v for_o himself_o &_o for_o the_o people_n heb._n 5._o but_o this_o cause_n be_v many_o way_n avoid_v for_o we_o be_v priest_n to_o offer_v up_o the_o onâ—y_fw-fr sacrifice_n of_o thanksgiving_n &_o not_o of_o propitiation_n for_o sin_n which_o can_v be_v without_o shed_v of_o blood_n heb._n 9_o second_o although_o we_o be_v all_o make_v priest_n yet_o we_o be_v not_o make_v high_a priest_n of_o which_o the_o text_n speak_v heb._n 5._o which_o office_n one_o only_o can_v enjoy_v at_o one_o time_n which_o be_v our_o saviour_n christ_n for_o term_v of_o his_o life_n which_o be_v without_o end_n three_o those_o sacrifice_n which_o the_o external_a priest_n offer_v for_o sin_n can_v never_o take_v away_o sin_n heb._n 10._o much_o less_o our_o spiritual_a sacrifice_n of_o thanksgiving_n for_o god_n benefit_n bestow_v on_o we_o &_o his_o whole_a church_n i_o cite_v further_a apoc._n 7._o these_o be_v they_o that_o come_v out_o of_o that_o great_a affliction_n &_o have_v wash_v their_o stole_n and_o make_v they_o white_a in_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lamb_n therefore_o they_o be_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o throne_n of_o god_n brist_n say_v this_o word_n therefore_o be_v refer_v to_o their_o come_n out_o of_o affliction_n and_o so_o white_v their_o stole_n and_o yet_o this_o gloss_a say_v he_o of_o i_o take_v it_o away_o from_o the_o affliction_n whereas_o that_o whiting_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o that_o affliction_n o_o impudent_a and_o blasphemous_a heretic_n when_o the_o holy_a ghost_n express_o say_v they_o make_v their_o stole_n white_a in_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lamb_n dare_v thou_o open_v thy_o mouth_n and_o say_v not_o only_o that_o that_o whiting_n be_v somewhat_o else_o then_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o also_o that_o it_o be_v nothing_o but_o that_o affliction_n so_o utter_o exclude_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n but_o i_o forget_v to_o confer_v other_o place_n of_o scripture_n as_o he_o charge_v i_o be_v there_o any_o scripture_n that_o ascribe_v purification_n of_o our_o sin_n to_o any_o other_o thing_n than_o to_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n let_v we_o hear_v what_o whoso_o overcom_v shall_v be_v clothe_v with_o white_a garment_n apoc._n 3_o but_o the_o martyr_n overcome_v the_o devil_n not_o only_o by_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lamb_n but_o also_o by_o their_o own_o patient_a confession_n or_o affliction_n unto_o death_n apoc._n 12._o the_o text_n be_v and_o they_o overcome_v he_o by_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lamb_n and_o by_o the_o word_n of_o their_o testimony_n and_o they_o love_v not_o their_o life_n unto_o death_n here_o be_v no_o cause_n of_o victory_n but_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lamb_n and_o the_o word_n of_o their_o testimony_n which_o be_v the_o confession_n of_o their_o faith_n the_o only_a instrumental_a cause_n of_o their_o justification_n and_o victory_n who_o be_v he_o which_o overcom_v the_o world_n say_v s._n john_n but_o he_o that_o beleve_v 1._o john_n 5._o i'faith_o therefore_o the_o only_a shield_n to_o have_v victory_n against_o the_o world_n and_o the_o devil_n have_v no_o power_n in_o itself_o to_o cleanse_v our_o sin_n but_o lean_v altogether_o to_o the_o blood_n of_o christ._n but_o it_o be_v a_o proper_a thing_n to_o see_v bristol_n forsake_v his_o vulgar_a latin_a authentical_a translation_n and_o to_o turn_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o their_o own_o martyrdom_n which_o be_v in_o deed_n by_o the_o word_n of_o their_o testimony_n or_o which_o they_o do_v testify_v whereas_o by_o his_o translation_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ‑_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v signify_v no_o more_o than_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d shall_v be_v take_v for_o suffer_v of_o death_n as_o i_o think_v it_o be_v in_o no_o greek_a author_n sure_o i_o be_o it_o be_v never_o so_o take_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o bristol_n add_v that_o s._n paul_n also_o according_o call_v it_o the_o mortification_n of_o jesus_n when_o the_o apostle_n be_v mortify_v for_o jesus_n and_o say_v they_o carry_v the_o same_o about_o continual_o in_o their_o body_n that_o also_o the_o life_n of_o jesus_n may_v also_o be_v manifect_v in_o their_o body_n 2._o cor._n 4._o i_o wot_v well_o we_o must_v be_v conformable_a to_o christ_n in_o suffering_n that_o we_o may_v be_v partaker_n of_o his_o kingdom_n and_o glory_n but_o do_v it_o therefore_o follow_v that_o our_o suffering_n merit_v this_o glory_n by_o his_o blood_n or_o that_o his_o blood_n without_o all_o respect_n of_o our_o merit_n do_v not_o alone_o purge_v and_o cleanse_v we_o from_o all_o our_o sin_n after_o he_o have_v finish_v the_o cleanse_n of_o our_o sin_n by_o his_o own_o self_n say_v the_o apostle_n he_o be_v set_v down_o at_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o magnificence_n in_o the_o high_a heb._n 1_o last_o of_o all_o bristol_n oppose_v that_o saint_n paul_n say_v this_o our_o affliction_n although_o it_o be_v but_o short_a and_o light_a work_v we_o everlasting_a weight_n of_o glory_n exceed_v measure_n above_o measure_n 2._o cor._n 4._o i_o answer_v it_o work_v not_o by_o merit_v not_o by_o purge_v our_o sin_n or_o by_o satisfy_v for_o our_o iniquity_n but_o by_o make_v we_o conformable_a unto_o our_o head_n in_o pass_v by_o the_o same_o way_n of_o tribulation_n unto_o glory_n that_o he_o do_v even_o as_o the_o way_n or_o step_n which_o lead_v unto_o a_o high_a 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everlasting_a rest_n of_o infant_n that_o be_v not_o baptize_v but_o what_o say_v bristol_n to_o my_o reply_n which_o be_v this_o the_o same_o reason_n serve_v as_o well_o against_o the_o popish_a purgatory_n because_o we_o find_v it_o not_o in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n bristol_n ask_v whether_o saint_n augustine_n do_v so_o reason_n against_o it_o as_o though_o that_o be_v material_a when_o the_o reason_n will_v bind_v one_o man_n as_o well_o as_o another_o and_o one_o matter_n as_o well_o as_o another_o as_o for_o his_o opinion_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a as_o i_o have_v often_o say_v prove_v not_o a_o third_o place_n as_o for_o the_o two_o place_n de_n ciu._n dei_fw-la lib._n 21._o cap._n 13._o &_o 24._o the_o one_o manifest_o corrupt_v the_o other_o just_o suspect_v i_o have_v speak_v to_o they_o both_o already_o other_o doctor_n about_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a bristol_n i_o cite_v purg._n 382._o gelasius_n 24._o 92._o c._n legatur_fw-la that_o no_o man_n can_v be_v 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to_o they_o that_o be_v depart_v to_o the_o place_n of_o chrysostome_n which_o i_o cite_v against_o himself_o pur._n 251._o bristol_n after_o he_o have_v remove_v the_o question_n from_o the_o cause_n to_o the_o person_n answer_v that_o no_o friend_n no_o just_a man_n shall_v help_v he_o that_o die_v in_o mortal_a sin_n either_o commit_v evil_a or_o do_v no_o good_a i_o say_v no_o more_o but_o as_o i_o say_v before_o let_v it_o be_v compare_v with_o chrysostom_n other_o say_v the_o homily_n next_o before_o 41._o in_o 1._o cor._n and_o with_o allens_n exhortation_n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n pur._n 242._o if_o thou_o yet_o chance_n etc._n etc._n out_o of_o ambrose_n although_o allow_v prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a i_o cite_v in_o psalm_n 4._o be_v etc._n etc._n the_o prophet_n do_v well_o to_o add_v on_o earth_n for_o if_o he_o be_v not_o cleanse_v here_o he_o can_v not_o be_v cleanse_v there_o i_o shall_v have_v say_v clean_o say_v bristol_n for_o though_o he_o be_v not_o clean_a from_o 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&_o come_v with_o he_o out_o of_o ur_fw-la of_o the_o chaldee_n and_o as_o he_o beget_v isaac_n in_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n and_o as_o he_o be_v now_o at_o rest_n with_o god_n in_o heaven_n when_o you_o can_v persuade_v we_o i_o say_v that_o one_o man_n can_v be_v father_n and_o son_n of_o himself_o then_o will_v we_o believe_v you_o that_o a_o figure_n and_o the_o thing_n figure_v be_v all_o one_o cap._n xv._o the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n be_v that_o which_o set_v his_o death_n saunder_n and_o life_n before_o us._n the_o eat_n of_o common_a bread_n say_v saunder_n in_o answer_n to_o fulke_n the_o apology_n and_o drink_v of_o common_a wine_n be_v but_o a_o homely_a manner_n of_o set_v the_o death_n and_o resurrection_n and_o life_n of_o christ_n before_o our_o eye_n but_o if_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v turn_v into_o the_o same_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o die_v rise_v again_o and_o wrought_v all_o the_o miracle_n in_o the_o world_n then_o be_v 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with_o devil_n be_v not_o the_o faith_n that_o we_o come_v to_o feed_v upon_o in_o these_o divine_a mystery_n but_o such_o a_o faith_n as_o appli_v to_o our_o own_o comfort_n the_o effect_n and_o fruit_n of_o the_o death_n resurrection_n and_o conversation_n of_o christ_n with_o the_o which_o the_o eat_n and_o drink_v of_o bread_n and_o wine_n have_v as_o great_a affinity_n as_o thing_n corporal_a can_v have_v with_o thing_n spiritual_a teach_v that_o the_o most_o necessary_a and_o only_a sufficient_a nourishment_n of_o our_o soul_n be_v receive_v by_o faith_n even_o as_o the_o outward_a sign_n thereof_o be_v take_v with_o the_o body_n yet_o chrysostome_n say_v hom._n 83._o in_o math._n ipsum_fw-la igitur_fw-la vides_fw-la ipsum_fw-la tangis_fw-la ipsum_fw-la comedis_fw-la thou_o see_v himself_o thou_o touch_v himself_o thou_o eat_v himself_o see_v say_v saunder_n whether_o the_o apology_n do_v more_o true_o teach_v that_o the_o sign_n or_o token_n wtout_fw-fr the_o real_a presence_n 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and_o confession_n can_v stand_v without_o transubstantiation_n if_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o that_o real_a presence_n which_o he_o hold_v be_v not_o and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o transubstantiation_n in_o the_o supper_n of_o christ_n chrysostome_n tell_v we_o plain_o quando_fw-la hoc_fw-la mysterium_fw-la tradidit_fw-la vinum_fw-la tradidit_fw-la when_o he_o delyver_v this_o mystery_n or_o sacrament_n he_o deliver_v wine_n and_o this_o say_v chrysostome_n against_o they_o that_o use_v to_o celebrate_v with_o water_n but_o to_o help_v out_o transubstantiation_n he_o bring_v in_o damascen_n a_o writer_n out_o of_o the_o compass_n of_o the_o challenge_v which_o say_v de_fw-fr ortho_fw-mi fid_fw-we lib._n 4_o cap._n 14._o non_fw-la quòd_fw-la corpus_fw-la illud_fw-la 〈◊〉_d coelo_fw-la descendat_fw-la sed_fw-la quia_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la in_o christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la transmutatur_fw-la not_o as_o though_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n camâ—_n down_o 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we_o touch_v not_o either_o the_o godhead_n or_o the_o flesh_n visible_o these_o be_v high_a point_n of_o metaphysike_n master_n saunder_n to_o touch_v the_o godhead_n which_o be_v insensible_a and_o to_o touch_v visible_o or_o invisiblie_o except_o you_o mean_v by_o touch_v not_o visible_o to_o touch_v that_o which_o we_o see_v not_o as_o we_o may_v handle_v a_o thing_n in_o the_o dark_a which_o we_o see_v not_o but_o howsoever_o you_o will_v cloak_n the_o matter_n by_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n of_o cyril_n he_o say_v that_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n appear_v visible_o where_o be_v then_o your_o distinction_n of_o visible_a and_o invisible_a presence_n nay_o where_o be_v your_o carnal_a presence_n become_v which_o you_o ground_n upon_o touch_v when_o he_o be_v none_o otherwise_o present_a to_o be_v touch_v than_o he_o be_v present_a to_o be_v see_v and_o so_o say_v chrysostome_n also_o in_o the_o place_n by_o you_o cite_v thou_o see_v himself_o thou_o touch_v himself_o thou_o â—atest_v himselft_v if_o christ_n be_v none_o otherwise_o eat_v than_o he_o be_v see_v and_o be_v not_o see_v but_o by_o faith_n it_o will_v follow_v that_o he_o be_v not_o eat_v but_o by_o faith_n and_o now_o let_v we_o hear_v cyrillus_n begin_v one_o sentence_n before_o sand_n be_v dispose_v to_o hear_v he_o speak_v i_o n_o joan._n lib._n 12._o cap._n 58_o iâ—_n reigitur_fw-la sanctae_fw-la congregationes_fw-la die_fw-la octaâ—o_fw-la in_o ecclesâ—â—s_fw-la fiunt_fw-la foribus_fw-la sublimiore_fw-la modo_fw-la clausis_fw-la visibiliter_fw-la simul_fw-la atque_fw-la invisibiliter_fw-la christus_fw-la omnibus_fw-la apparet_fw-la invisibiliter_fw-la quidem_fw-la ut_fw-la deus_fw-la visibiliter_fw-la autem_fw-la in_o corpore_fw-la prâ—bet_fw-la enim_fw-la nobis_fw-la carnem_fw-la svam_fw-la tangendam_fw-la uâ—_n firmiter_fw-la credamus_fw-la quia_fw-la templum_fw-la verè_fw-la suum_fw-la suscitavit_fw-la quòd_fw-la autem_fw-la mysticae_fw-la benedictionis_fw-la communio_fw-la resurrectionis_fw-la christi_fw-la quaedam_fw-la confessio_fw-la est_fw-la verbis_fw-la ipsius_fw-la probatur_fw-la
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that_o my_o faith_n be_v able_a to_o derive_v the_o substance_n of_o god_n as_o meat_n into_o my_o soul_n and_o body_n see_v faith_n be_v but_o a_o creature_n only_o wherein_o the_o fullness_n of_o godhead_n dwell_v not_o and_o therefore_o be_v not_o able_a to_o attain_v to_o the_o union_n of_o god_n nature_n and_o much_o less_o able_a to_o give_v it_o i_o and_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o that_o saunder_n say_v the_o apostle_n pray_v that_o christ_n in_o who_o the_o fullness_n of_o the_o godhead_n dwell_v corporal_o may_v dwell_v in_o our_o heart_n by_o faith_n in_o deed_n not_o by_o the_o worthiness_n of_o faith_n but_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n who_o give_v strength_n to_o the_o weak_a element_n of_o the_o world_n and_o to_o our_o unperfect_a faith_n to_o bring_v to_o pass_v wonderful_a effect_n as_o we_o may_v see_v in_o baptism_n wherefore_o to_o reason_n of_o the_o weakness_n of_o sign_n and_o unablenesse_n of_o faith_n several_o from_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n 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our_o lord_n christ_n must_v needs_o dwell_v in_o he_o natural_o but_o christ_n dwell_v not_o at_o all_o in_o the_o ungodly_a therefore_o the_o ungodly_a receive_v not_o his_o flesh_n in_o the_o lord_n meat_n as_o the_o papist_n say_v in_o who_o also_o he_o shall_v dwell_v natural_o if_o he_o be_v receive_v true_o or_o as_o they_o say_v corporal_o cap._n ix_o by_o the_o three_o diverse_a giving_n which_o be_v name_v in_o saint_n john_n saunder_n it_o be_v show_v that_o christ_n give_v his_o real_a flesh_n under_o the_o figure_n of_o another_o thing_n the_o three_o time_n of_o give_v do_v not_o prove_v that_o three_o 〈◊〉_d diverse_a thing_n be_v give_v neither_o do_v saunder_n say_v one_o word_n to_o prove_v that_o they_o do_v and_o where_o be_v then_o the_o ground_n of_o this_o disputation_n god_n by_o moses_n say_v saunder_n be_v say_v to_o have_v give_v in_o time_n past_a he_o have_v give_v they_o bread_n from_o heaven_n to_o eat_v but_o christ_n say_v moses_n give_v you_o not_o 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difference_n etc._n etc._n in_o such_o sort_n that_o he_o will_v not_o have_v the_o body_n present_v wherein_o difference_n be_v to_o be_v make_v fulk_n as_o though_o difference_n of_o the_o king_n person_n and_o authority_n can_v not_o be_v make_v but_o in_o the_o king_n presence_n sand._n 30_o you_o deny_v our_o union_n with_o christ_n flesh_n by_o corporal_a participation_n which_o s._n paul_n teach_v by_o example_n of_o adam_n and_o eve_n be_v two_o in_o one_o flesh_n fulk_n our_o corporal_a participation_n be_v by_o his_o incarnation_n which_o be_v apply_v unto_o we_o by_o faith_n through_o his_o spirit_n unite_n we_o unto_o he_o and_o testify_v in_o the_o supper_n sand._n 31_o whereas_o christ_n be_v so_o much_o more_o excellent_a than_o angel_n by_o how_o much_o he_o have_v a_o more_o excellent_a name_n you_o regard_v not_o the_o name_n body_n and_o blood_n give_v to_o the_o mystery_n but_o affirm_v they_o to_o be_v as_o they_o be_v before_o etc._n etc._n fulk_n the_o apostle_n 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