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A77927 The innocency of the Christian Quakers manifested, and the truth of their principles and doctrine cleared and defended from the loud (but false) clamours, base insinuations and wicked slanders of James Barry. / Published for the general satisfaction and benefit of all, who simply desire to know and embrace the truth. Burnyeat, John, 1631-1690.; Strettell, Amos.; Barry, James. 1688 (1688) Wing B5967; ESTC R170925 24,109 32

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7.1 We look upon it thus to charge God in the work of his Spirit in Christ to be little less then Blasphemy David saith in Psal 18.30 As for God his way is perfect and in vers 32. It is God that girdeth me with strength and maketh my way perfect And Moses saith I will publish the Name of the Lord ascribe ye Greatness unto our God he is a Rock his Work is perfect for all his ways are Judgment c. Deut. 32.3 4. These bear a better and truer Testimony for God his ways and works then James Barry who will admit of no degree of Perfection in Sanctification which we always held to be the Work of God and his Spirit in Christ wrought for the Saints and in the Saints as the Prophet also testifieth Isa 26.12 Lord thou wilt ordain Peace for us for thou also hast wrought all our works in us To vindicate these our Principles or any thing writ in vindication of them by our Friends which he hath abused viz. George Fox George Whithead William Penn and Edward Burroughs we offered to give him a Meeting and with him to dispute fairly that it might be manifest whether his or ours did most agree and concur with the Testimony of holy Scriptures We offered further then to dispute with him about the Doctrine of perticular Election and Reprobation of persons or of Christs not dying for ALL Men and told him we were desirous to be informed what Gospel of glad Tidings Ministers of such a Faith and Principle had to preach to them that Christ died not for which might tend to their benefit unto Salvation or whether they never press such to believe as a duty incumbent nor ever offers Salvation unto them in the name of Christ if they do believe This we said we did look upon to be a material Principle and ought to be cleered up because it concerns so great a part of mankind And James Barry's Messenger that he sent with his Papers said that James Barry would lay down his Life in vindication of this Principle therefore we expect he should inform us what Gospel he hath to preach to them Christ died not for and what object of Faith he hath to lay down for them to believe in for Faith must have an Object or whether they do not press it as a Duty in general upon all to believe and then let us know their method of distinction who preach not the Gospel to every one for sure there can be no Gospel of glad Tidings to those Christ died not for and we know 't is the common opinion of such that they that Christ died not for are the greater number and if this Doctrine of theirs be true how can the Message of the Angel be true Luk. 2.10 And the Angel said unto them fear not for behold I bring you good tidings of great Joy which shall be unto ALL People And in the same Chapter you may see what Simeon said For mine eyes have seen thy Salvation which thou hast prepared before the face of ALL People Here he witnesseth to the general Offer of God unto ALL. And the Apostle Rom. 5.18 saith that as by the Offence of ONE Judgment came upon ALL men to Condemnation even so by the Righteousness of one the free Gift came upon ALL men unto Justification of Life And in Psal 68.18 David speaking of Christ saith Thou ascended up on high thou hast led captivity captive thou hast received Gifs for men yea for the Rebellious also that the Lord God might dwell amongst them And to this agrees the Parable of the Sower whose Seed fell some on the high way some on the thorny some on the stony and some on the good ground and also the Parable of the Talents Matt. 25.15 where it is said he gave to every one according to their several abilities but ALL did not improve as Paul saith Rom. 10. they have not all obeyed though they had heard and in 1 Tim. 2.6 you see what he saith of the Mediator who gave himself a Ransom for ALL men to be testified in due time 2 Cor. 5.14 For the Love of Christ constraineth us because we thus judge that if one died for ALL then were ALL dead and was not their Judgment right in this Heb. 2.9 But we see Jesus who was made a little lower then the Angels for the suffering of Death crowned with Glory and Honour that he by the Grace of God should taste Death for EVERY man. So you see that by the Grace of God he should taste Death for EVERY man and yet James Barry and such by their ungracious limitations would have it to be but for a few and so he goes to contradict the Scripture and so is witnessed against by that which he said should be the Standard to try every thing by and therefore is not true according to the Standard And in the 1st Epistle of John 2.2 you may see what he saith of Christ and his Death And he is the Propitiation for our Sins and not for ours only but also for the Sins of the whole world So not for theirs only but also for the Sins of the whole world And 2 Pet. 3.9 there the Apostle tells us of the long-suffering of God to us-ward not willing that ANY should perish but that ALL should come to Repentance And the Prophet Ezekiel being of the same mind declares fully in the 18th chap that the Lord hath no pleasure in the Death of a Sinner but rather that he would repent and return Many Scriptures might be laid down to witness against this unrighteous Principle of limiting God in the universality of his Love to mankind for the rejecting of which and slighting the offers of Free Grace which has appeared to all men according to Titus 2.11 man brings destruction upon himself But James Barry's Messenger that he sent which we suppose may be an esteemed Member of his Church did charge it to be Blasphemy for any to say that man could do contrary to the Will of God and when it was offered to be proved in an hundred places of Scripture and more where the Will of God was manifest and that men did contrary to it for if it were not so we should not have sin committed for in the Scripture all sorts of Sin is forbidden After this was offered he still affirm'd it and further discoursing of what benefit the Reprobate could have by the coming of Christ he said the Devil had a benefit by it but being much desired to shew wherein he could make nothing out James Barry makes a Boast of his Hearers most of them being in a state of Grace but if they be not founded upon better Principles then these they are far from being in a state of Grace and Happiness Therefore in Charity we desire they may look to their standing and not to be settled upon such unsound Principles as James Barry the Independent Priest as he calls himself labours to