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A17222 Two epystles one of Henry Bullynger, wyth the consent of all the lernyd men of the Churche of Tigury: another of Ihon Caluyn, cheffe preacher of the church of Geneue: whether it be lawfull for a Chrysten man to communycate or be pertaker of the masse of the Papysts, wythout offendyng God and hys neyghboure, or not. Bullinger, Heinrich, 1504-1575.; Calvin, Jean, 1509-1564. aut 1544 (1544) STC 4079.5; ESTC S115087 13,173 18

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lyke māner Sophonias also I wyll distroye sayth he those persones that swere by the Lorde and by Malchom Verelye yf the onlye sacrifice of Christ once offryde for the synnes of the worlde maketh the beleuers perfecte what nede they in ther high masses daylye to offer the bodye and blude of Christe for the synnes of the quycke deade If they which departe in fayth passe from death vnto lyf If they whych dye in vnbeleue escape not dampnacyon to what intente I praye you sacrifyce they for the deade If the Lord must be worshipped in spyrite and truth why wynke thes persones at the doctryne and facte of them whych byd men to worshyp him in breade Therfore may we crie wyth Elyas how longe halt ye on both sydes If the sacryfyce of Christ be absolute or sufficyent thynke stedfastlye that by that only sacryfice you be made perfecte for euermore But yf ther be sacryfice made daylye in the masse Then beleue that you be clensyd thorowe daylye sacryfices Thes thynges can not stonde nor agre to gether More ouer no man nede to blinde hym selfe with thes wordes high masse and lowe masse In the hyghe masse are the selffe and same abhominacyons whych are in the loweste In both of them is the institucyon and ordynaunte of Chryst peruerted in both of them is he worshipped in the broade in both of them are ydolles serued in both specially in the seruyce of saynctes is helpe aske de at creatures In both of them is the wicked cānon the greatest portyon of the masse Ther is nothyng in it of old antiquite nothyng of the apostolique simplycite Furthermore we must also marke in specially in this matter how the scripture requyreth of vs no cloked but an open confession Now by ceremonyes and the vse of ceremonyes we do chefelye confesse whath fayth we be of He that beynge requyryd stondyth by at the Turkes and gentyles seruyce grauntyth hym selfe to be a pertaker or fauerere of the supersticion of the Turkes and gentyles He that is present at the masse when ▪ he is requyryd doth openlye testifye that he doth acknowledge the masse and the masses relygyon to be the true seruyce of God Therfore bi his presence he establysseth all the erroures of the masse He that wyll not be present at masse hym take the aduersaryes for a cōtēner of ther seruyce all the whole papistrye Wherfore by what reason that we knowe that the open confession of Christ is requyryd of euery one of vs how lytle of reputacyon so euen he be By the same beleue we also that they be vtterlye forbydden to haue any parte wyth the masse Nether is it sufficient for vs to beleue in the herte and secretlye to confesse God The syncerefull playne confession of the tonge must goe wyth all We haue of Orygene that ther was a certayne secte called Helchesaytes which tawght thys heresy that yf in persecucyon any man showld denye I vse Eusebius wordes in his ecclesiasticall historie the .vi. boke the .xxviij. chap. the same were in no taute because he that hath a stedfast hart to God alltough he denye with his mouth for necessyte yet in his harte he abydyth in the fayth But I purpose not to dyspute now this questyon at large I haue notyd some what concernynge this matter long agoo in my commentaryes vpon the viij.ix .x. chapters of the fyrst epystle to the Corynthians vpon the epistle to the Hebrwes agayne in the booke de origine erroris which I last ouerlokyd enlargyd And thys much haue I wrytten to the intent you may perceyue that we be playnelye not of ther iudgement which put afflicted persones in conforte to goo to masse we beleue do teach rather that the truth should be playnlye confessyd that all erroure owght to be spoken agaynst abhorryd shunnyd that we owght to dye rather then to haue any thyng adoe wyth that wycked seruyce We knowe that throwgh much pacyence we must saue owr soules we knowe that it behouyth vs thorow many tribulacions to enter into the kingdome of heauen But yf we may after such a sorte accordyng as the world goyth semble dissemble chope chaūge at oure pleasure in matters of religion suerlye the most holy marters of god were ioles that wold haue nothing to do with ceremonyes which were playne wycked But ther vpryghtnes stedfastnes was acceptable vnto the Lorde wherfore he also wyll not be dyspleasyd at ther holy pertynacite which had rather suffer al maner of extremite then once to make or medle with the wycked seruyce of the papystes Thes thinges may you be bolde to saye of vs a foore good men such as be in troble for the truthe prayeng them to comend vs wyth ther prayers vnto god More of this matter shall mayster Iohn Becstayne declare you For be herde myne other bretherne in the mynistracion of goddes worde dispute of this same thynge Both Leo Iuda Casper Megander Erasmus Fabricis Conradus Pellicanus Theodorus Bybliander the reste which all wyshe you good fare you well brother in the Lord. Loue me and remember me with your prayets vnto Christ At Tigurye 18. Februa 1541 The Epistle of Iohn Caluyne THe man to whom ye gaue commyssion requyred vs to wryte your aouyse how ye myght kepe you from stayninge your selfe amonge so many spottes of supersticions as in the stede of the pure true seruyce of god haue gotten place in the church ther with you As for me I suppose it shal be sufficient to declare you my mynde brefely Also not hydyng from you what other men do thynke in the meane season consyderinge that ther is some variaūce in this behalfe The same that other men wolde ether deny or wyncke at stonde I at no dowbte to affyrme namelye that I vtterlie do not subscribe vnto ther opinyon So that at the least by this my symple confessyon ye maye vnderstonde that it shal be farre from all feydnednesse what so euer I will saye But this one thinge wyll I hartelye praye you that in hearynge me speake of variaunte ye wyll not be sore offendyd as though ye myght haue no thynge of vs but that is wrappyd with controuersyes For as ye shall heare ther is very litle varyaunce betwene vs. They pondrynge how daungerous a thynge it is to snare mens conscyences in relygion dare not condēne owght no vnlawfull that maye by eny meane be excusyde More ouer whan they consyder how many greuouse wayes they be oppressid on euery syde wich syue in that captiuite of Babylon they must nedes fauer them in some thynges least that yf they shoulde be to importune apon them it myght vtterlye dyscomfort such as elles haue a good zeale and be indewed with a ryght feare of God But I contrarie wyse do holde that it cannot be to straightlye kepte which the Lorde hath bounde by his worde and that the godlye oughte not to