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A51597 A vindication of St. Gregorie his dialogues: in which the great St. Gregory is proved the author of that work. Mumford, J. (James), 1606-1666. 1660 (1660) Wing M3071A; ESTC R222057 12,443 19

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namely in Concilio Triburiensi C. 17. cited by Pope Adrian in his Epistle to Charles the great cited by Jonas Aurelianensis as most powerful weapons to defeat the monstrous Opinions of Claudius Taurinensis translated in fine by the most holy Pope Zachary into Greek by reason of their excellency And upon this account so much esteemed by the Greeks that they from these Dialogues gave the great St. Gregory the surname of Dialogus Nunquid his omnibus caecutientibus tu solus vides saith Baronius to Canus and I say the same to any one who sides with him in this Paradox As for the rest I refer my Reader to Baronius who will easily see how far more bitterly that most modest Cardinal would have Written against Canus if he had dared to compare these Stories of St. Gregories to Winter tales To us it sufficeth that the Church in her Breviary embraceth his strange story of the soul of Theodoricus and also others no lesse strange in her Martyloge Febr. 13. 15. 25. March the first August the seventh yea that which you will dread to hear in the thirtieth one day of May be these words At Rome of St. Paschasius Deacon and confessor of whom St. Gregory the Pope maketh mention see you not that the Church holds forth to us that very Paschasius for a Saint of whom we find St. Gregory to make no other mention but that he was in purgatory and thence delivered by prayers So that you see the Church owns that very story which most of all they would have accounted to be a Winter tale Here then we have our Opinion of souls being delivered from Purgatory before the day of Judgment credited by the Church For otherwise she could not propose to us a Man to be worshipped for a Saint of whom she commends to us what is related by St. Gregory the substance of whose Relation is That being in Purgatory be did miracles That he appeared in the bathes to beg prayers That by these prayers be was released wherfore Fourthly they in vain object against this story of Paschasius that he dyed obstinately in Schism And that it is the fancy of an idle brain to imagine that souls are sent to the bathes there to scrub and rub so to be acquitted of their sins For first to say Paschasius dyed obstinate in Sch●sme is to abuse both St. Gregory and this Saint and the Church and the Reader St. Gregory is abused for in the same breath in which he told his Reader how Paschasius was freed from Purgatory he tells him cleerly That seeing his fault proceeded not out of Malice after death he might he purged from that sin And we must think that his plentifull almes obtained this favour c. The Church is abused which recommends to us a Man to be worshipped for a Saint who as they say dyed obstinate in Schisme The Saint recommended by the Church is abused whilst they thus pluck him from Heaven to Hell The Reader is abused by such gross falsities obtruded unto him after their fuller consideration Far more considerately that incomparable Baronius pondering those words which I now cited out of St. Gregory excusing the fault of Paschasius expounds by them these his other words which said That he remained in his Opinion untill his dying day that is exclusively so that his Repentance happened before his death or which I most approve that his death happened before that controversie was cleerly decided which seems most conformable to those words of St. Gregory L. 4. C. 41. saying that Paschasius whilst he lived thought it no sin to do what he did Secondly for what concerns the appearing of Paschasius in the bathes it is not St. Gregory but some idle brain that speaks of scrubbing and rubbing I confess St. Gregory to speak both here L. 4. C. 40. and again C. 55. that such as were in purgatory did appear sometimes performing to some particular person some inferiour kind of services in the bath God permitting this that so they should declare the lownes of their present condition and also to give them occasion of begging the prayers of such particular persons which could and would best assist them now though Raphael the Archangel without feeling any regrete performed all bumble service to young Tobie because all this while he enjoyed the sight of God and voluntarily performed his gratious pleasure Yet if God in his wrath had cast him from his sight deprived him of glory banished him from Heaven and for his offences deputed him to those inferior offices in revenge of them it is not hard to conceive that this had been a most sad chasticement as it conteins the debasing of so noble a nature by the just wrath of his Creator against him Wherefore I wonder to hear those men say that no grave Divine novv living vvill undertake to justify these revelations vvhereas Baronius hath done it so fully And vvhereas they most carpe at this Revelation in particular the very Prince of Divines St. Thomas doth give his approbation of also it in particular For thus he Writes in Suppl Q. 69. or 1. Moreover this is made evident by what St. Gregory saith L 4. Dial. where he relates that souls after their departure are led to several corporal places as appears by Paschasius whom Germanus the Bishop of Capua found in the bathes And a little after There be allotted to souls after their departure certain corporal places by a certain congruitie according to the degrees of their dignitie And so we place souls which are in a perfect participation of the Deity in heaven But we say those souls to be deputed to contrary places which are hindred from this participation That is We say they be deputed to Hell if they be hindred from participation of Deity by damnable sin Again vve say they be deputed to purgatory if they be hindred from this participation by only venial sin again these venial sins may be many and great and so sink a soul dovvn to the bottom of of Purgatory that is depute that soul to the most painful temporall punish●●nts as also they may be very fevv and of the lightest kind of sins and those also expiated in great part by contrary great good vvorks as they may truly think of the sins of St. Paschasius seeing that he did miracles upon earth vvhen his soul vvas suffering this lighter kind of punishment Wherefore though such a soul be deputed to a purgative state and is purged by being banished from the sight of God yet the other penal pains be of the lightest sort such as may to our capacity be fitly expressed by being out of the fiery prison of purgatory yet in some lovv abject dark smooky place in the ground deputed there to contemptible imployments as those in the bathes were Of vvhich the merciful indulgence of God made particularly choice that so those souls might the more connaturally have commodity of begging the assistance of such persons as