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A77772 Some reasons humbly proposed to the Lords spiritual and temporal, and Commons assembled in Parliament, why the Quakers principles and practices should be examined, and censured or suppressed. As also, some reason why I thus proceed. Bugg, Francis, 1640-1724? 1699 (1699) Wing B5396B; ESTC R233986 11,602 2

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Some REASONS Humbly Proposed to the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and Commons Assembled in Parliament why the Quakers Principles and Practices should be Examined and Censured or Suppressed As also some Reasons why I thus proceed I. AS it is the Priviledge of every free-born Englishman as well as his Duty to discover to the Government what he thinks may be of dangerous Consequence either to Church or State so I have taken it to be my Duty for many Years and I am still of the same Mind II. Because as in the Quakers ancient Books so in their late Apology c. they seem to allow of an Examination saying Blame not before Examination first Vnderstand and then Rebuke III. Because I do not understand that the Petitioners desire otherwise namely that the Quakers Errors should be censured before Examination nor desire Persecution or the Alteration of the Liberty granted Protestant Dissenters by the Act of Toleration IV. Because it is morally impossible to know what the Quakers Principles are or what they really hold by the Books they publickly present since 't is plain their Books carry two Faces and are fitted for the Compass of all Occasions and to serve every Turn Some intituled This is only to go among Friends some This is only to go among Friends and not otherwise some Written only for Friends who can read it Other some inscrib'd with this Direction To be scattered among the Ignorant Simple and Blind People some For the spreading of Truth some For Teachers and Professors Ministers and Magistrates c. In one sort they pretend to own Jesus of Nazareth to be the Son of God and Redeemer of the VVorld whilst in the other sort they utterly deny the same saying That the Outward Person that suffered was properly the Son of God we utterly deny In one sort they pretend to own the Scripture Trinity i. e. Father Son and Holy Ghost whilst in the other sort they say Your Imagined God beyond the Stars and your Carnal Christ is utterly denied and testified against by the Light to say that Christ is God and Man in one Person it is a Lie In one sort they highly value the Death and Sufferings of Christ while in the other sort they say That the Sufferings of the People call'd Quakers in this Age is greater and more unjust than the Sufferings in the Days of Christ his Apostles or any time since What was done to Christ and his Apostles was chiefly done by a Law and in great part by the DVE Execution of a Law In one sort they pretend to value the Scriptures above all Books in the World whilst in the other sort they Contemptuously call them Carnal Dust Death Beastly Ware Serpents Meat c. And that we may as well condemn the Scriptures to the Fire as their Books Nay further G. Whitehead being asked Whether the Quakers do esteem their Speaking to be of as great Authority as the Scriptures He answered That which is spoken from the Spirit of Truth in any is of as great Authority as the Scriptures or Chapters are and GREATER Which Book Truth defending the Quakers c. in Title Page is said to be given forth from the Spirit of Truth in G. Whitehead and G. Fox Jun. and consequently that Book tho' but of 3 d. price is of greater Authority than the Bible all which shew it morally impossible to know what the Quakers Principles are by that sort of Books they publickly present Wherefore Examination is as essentially necessary in order to a right Understanding of the Quakers Principles as that mention'd 1 Kings 3.23 24. where the Wisdom of Solomon was manifest V. Because W. Penn tells us in his Defence against the Bishop of Cork P. 38 79. That where the Quakers are supposed to differ most from the Christians there they differ least i. e. in Doctrine and where they are believed to differ least there they differ most of all c. And thereupon an Examination is highly necessary And in order to find out this Mystery viz. where the Quakers differ most of all from the Christians and yet least suspected give me leave to search till I find it out And 1st does it lye whether W. P. be a Pr nt or a Pa st No for the Nation is fully satisfied in the Truth of the last 2dly Is it in the Carnality of the Christians No for the Carnality of the Quakers their Number consider'd far exceed them as shew'd in the Cage of Unclean Birds See my Pilgrims Progress c. p. 127 to 145. 3dly Is it in their Meekness Gentleness and Patience Is it in their Non-persecution not giving Names for or Personal Reflections about Religion No this is out of doubt no Mystery for of all Mankind none like them for Bitterness of Spirit for Hell-fetcht Names as if the Furies of Hell possess'd them And for Persecution had they Power there 's none like them their Fining and Imprisoning for Conscience sake in Pensilvania is a Demonstration What then I answer touching Government where they are not more against the English Government but as Arbitrary in their own and in this Mystery of Iniquity they are least suspected and touching that I think Father Penn has spoke more Truth than he is aware of but to Particulars VI. In one sort of their Books they pretend to love own and honour the King yea to pray for all Men for Kings and all that are in Authority but in their contrary sort of Books they tell you That all KINGS and EMPERORS sprung up in the Night since the Days of the Apostles among the ANTICHRISTS That they own no King but Jesus nor no Government but the Government of the Lamb That they are Traytors against Christ that desire an Earthly King Do you read say the Quakers that there were any Kings since the Days of the Apostles but among the APOSTATE CHRISTIANS That Kings are the SPIRITUAL EGYPTIANS Oh what a Sincerity was once in the Nation What a DIRTY NASTY thing it would have been to have heard talk of a House of Lords among them A Parliament chosen by most Voices are not like to act for God and the Good of his People It was thro' Ignorance that the People subjected themselves to Hereditary Government or to the Government standing in a single Person successively And our Nation have been under the Bonds of Slavery in this Respect So that having at last found out this Mystery viz. where the Quakers and the Christians differ most of all tho' least suspected as I have at large shewed in my Pilg. Prog. c. p. 14 15 and p. 37 to 127. I shall first draw a Scheme of the Quakers Yearly Meeting or Convocation which in Form and Figure is somewhat like the Council of Trent and then shew the Danger of it which is least of all suspected The QUAKERS SYNOD Note Reader That in Anno 1650. there was as little Probability to see them in 1698. sit thus in Councel