have cognizance what was done touching the said Rebellions of Salop and elsewhere-within the Realm whereupon New Proclamations were made and the subsequent proceedings were done in full Parliament in presence of the Commons and the Record saith upon the Request of the Commons A Question hath been often asked Whether the Commons did heretofore sit at Conference with the Lords Which I cannot very well resolve but verily believe That at all these Arraignments the Commons did sit with the Lords 10 R. 2. Gomeniz and Weston were brought before the Lords and Commons sitting in the White Chamber The Words are Devant les Seignieurs avant dits en plein Parlement c. But the Commons are here intended by the Words en plein Parlement And so was the Commons Demand that they may be tried before the Lords No other Records speak whether they did sit or stand In Judgments on Misdemeanors The Presence of the Commons is not necessary unless they impeach a Delinquent prout 50 E. 3. And then they were present at all the Answers of those whom they Impeached and demanded Judgment And when the Lords had rendred their Judgment against the Lord Latimer to be prisoner with the Marshal and to make Fine and Ransom to the King the Commons prayed the King he might also be put out of all his Offices and especially from being Privy Councellor Which the King granted And when the Lords had determined one part of the Complaint of the Commons against William Ellis touching a wrong done to certain Scottish Merchants the Commons prayed a general Enquiry might be made of the Residue whereof they complained which the Lords granted And when the Lord Nevil Answered They required that one Richard Love might be examined to prove that which the said Lord denied and they departed but two of the Commons remained and heard the Examination and told the Lords That the said Richard had related it to the Commons otherwise the day before which the said Richard denied Then all the Commons came and justified it again and thereupon the said Richard Love confessed it and on their Demands was committed This shews what Interest they have in their own Impeachments So in 10 R. 2. When the Commons had Impeached the Lord Chancellor They were present at his Answer and so often Replied and enforced his Oath against him and required him to be Committed and so he was before Judgment but Bayled presently But if the Commons do only complain and do neither impeach the Party in Writing nor by word of Mouth in open House nor demand Trial to be in their Presence In these Cases it is in the Election of the Lords whether the Commons shall be present or not And therefore when they complained of Alice Peirce 10 R. 2. The Lords deferred her Trial until the Departure of the Parliament that is till the Commons had leave to depart And if the Commons presence be not necessary in such Cases where they complain much less is it wherein they complain not yet they have been present when they did not complain but that was upon an extraordinary Cause prout 7 R. 2. A Fishmonger exhibited his Complaint first to the Commons against the Lord Chancellor and afterwards to the Lords in Full Parliament in presence of the Commons But they were present no doubt at the Lord Chancellor's Request That he might clear himself in Publick of the Slander and so he did The Presence of the Judges In Cases Capital the Judges are to be present also otherwise it is not a Full Court but they have no Voyce And though there be divers Precedents that complain of the Prelates prout 21 R. 2. 2 H. 5. and this last of the Commons yet there is not one Precedent that finds fault with their Absence in these Cases for they are not tractare cum caeteris Magnatibus but cum caeteris de Concilio Here may be Objected that which Tresilian and other Judges answered to one of the King's Questions 11 R. 2. touching the Judgment of Michael de la Poole That the same Justices and Serjeants would not give the same Judgment because it seemeth to them that the same is irrevocable as erroneous to every part Vid. Print Stat. 21 R. 2. Tresilian was much mistaken as much as in the other Answers whereby he determined that to be Treason and so here he gave his Advice not his Consent And yet he saith he gave his Consent Read but a little further and you shall find in the very same place as followeth Which Questions and Answers as well before the King as before the Lords and Commons were read and perceived and it was demanded of all the States of Parliament how they thought of the Answer And they said They thought the Justices made and gave the Answers duly and lawfully as good and liege People of the King ought to do And in the same manner Sir Tho. of Shelton Learned in the Law and Will. Hawkford and Will. Beechley the King's Serjeants being demanded by the King of their Advice c. and my Lord Will. Thurning of the Common Pleas c. That the Declaration of Treason not declared belongeth to the Parliament And if he had been demanded he would have said in the same manner And in like manner my Lord William Rickill Justice of the Common Bench and after the coming of my Lord William Clopton Chief Justice he said thus Wherefore the said Answers be judged good and affirmed sufficient in the said Parliament Whereupon the King by the Assent of the Lords Spiritual and Temporal and the Procurators of the Clergy and the said Commons and by the Advice of the said Justices and Serjeants there being It was Awarded and Adjudged c. Here you see the Manner of the Judges Assent viz. their Advice only Nor shall you find their Assents to any Statute yet the Judges have ever used to be present at the Trials in Parliament upon Life and Death 5 H. 4. The King delivered the Earl of Northumberland's Petition to them And at the Trial of any Peer out of Parliament the Judges are ever present on that Day and their presence is necessary for their Counsel to the Lords but their Assent is not necessary to the Judgment §. The Manner how the Lords resolve on their Judgment How this was Anciently appears in the Appeals 21 R. 2. Touching the Death of Simon Burley viz. It was demanded of every Lord who was present at the said Parliament his Advice of the said Simon touching his Crime Eodem Anno in the Print Stat. 21 R. 2. The Judges Opinions were demanded in the same manner beginning with the Serjeants c. and so ascending to the Chief Justice And at this Day the Question is put by the Chancellor or Lord Keeper and the puisne Baron answers first Content or not Content and so the Lords in Order But their Lordships do first debate the Judgment amongst themselves and the
said Mortymer having notice thereof withdrew himself among the wild Irish where the same Serjeant nor any other Officer of the King 's durst come for fear of Death Wherefore and for that his Offences are notoriously known both to the Lords and them they prayed Judgment c. The King the Lords and the Procurators of the Clergy considered of the Request of the Commons with good deliberation and then the Lords with the said Procurators by the assent of the King and Commons did award that Proclamation should be made through England and Ireland commanding the said Tho. Mortymer to render himself in proper Person to the King in what place soever it shall be in England within three Months after the 23th Day of December next coming to be at his Answer and they farther awarded That if he came not c. that then he shall be judged Traytor and Convict of of all Treasons whereof he is accused and shall forfeit c. Then the King adjourned the Parliament and the Appellants to the 15th of Hilary next at Shrewsbury on which Day the said Appellants declared to the King That it was awarded that Proclamation should be made c. ut supra The Commons did the like And for that the said Tho. Mortymer came not they had judgment In 7 H. 4. The Lords agreed this Judgment against the E. of North. and the Lord Bardolph who were fled to the Rebels in Wales and Proclamation ut supra throughout England At the day prefixed they examined the Returns of the Proclamations in the presence of the Commons and so the Judgment was agreed on in their presence also and so it ought to be in all Cases of Life and Death And finding a small Error they awarded new Proclamations in London only and the Return thereof was again viewed and considered in the presence of the Commons and then on the next day Judgment was given Eodem Anno 21 R. 2. The Lords Appellants accused also the Duke of Gloucester of Treason and although they knew he was dead they prayed the King that he might be brought to his Answer Whereupon the King sent his Writ to the Council of Calice unto whose Custody he committed the said Duke to bring him into the Parliament to his Answer The Captain returned his Writ That the Duke is dead the which Writ and Return being read the said Appellants prayed Judgment and the Commons shewed That the Dukes Levying War against the King's Person is notoriously known to all the States of Parliament and therefore they desired Judgment also and had it And what may not the whole Parliament do when they joyn in one Yet notwithstanding the King fearing some Error as it seems the Lords Appellants besought the King that if there were any thing on Record be it by Confession or otherwise which concerned their Appeal that it might be openly known and shewn in full Parliament Whereupon by the King's Commandment was read a Commission granted unto William Richal Justice of the Common-Pleas and a Confession of the Duke of Gloucester made before him by vertue of the said Commission yea and Richal himself being commanded did justifie that the Duke did write the Confession with his own hand in his absence and afterwards read it unto him so careful they were to have something to supply an Answer I marvel that Richal was acquitted of his Proceedings herein at the next Parliament of 1 H. 4. where he affirmed that much of this Dukes Confession was altered after he had returned his Commission He well deserved to die in that he spake not of it Yet there is one Precedent directly contrary to all this viz. 11 R. 2. in that Appeal which happened on this occasion The aforenamed Duke of Gloucester and four other Lords went to the King and accused the Duke of Ireland the Archbishop of York Michael de la Poole and others of Treason the King adjourned them to the next Parliament promising them Justice there and in the mean time conveyed away the Parties accused and then by Proclamation Part 8. fol. 603. in the next Parliament 11 R. 2. the Articles of the Appeal being read the Duke and other Appellants offered to make proof thereof and required that the Parties appealed might be brought to their Answers and for default of Appearance demanded Judgment Whereupon the King did deliberate with the Lords and commanded the Justices and other Sages of the Law to give their best Counsel to the Lords how to proceed rightly in this Matter of Appeal who after Consultation therein had answered the Lords That they had seen and considered the Tenor of this Appeal which they said was in no point made and declared according to the Order of the Common or Civil Law But they gave no Answer touching the Demand of Judgment for default of Appearance whereupon the Lords deliberated and after by the Lords assent declared that this Cause committed by the Peers against the Person of the King and State of the Realm shall be determined in the Parliament only and by no other Law than by the Law and Course of the Parliament And that it belongs to the Lords only to judge in such Cases And with the assent of the King they did judge the same Appeal and the Process thereupon depending to be good according to the Law and Course of Parliament Then the Lords Appellants proceeded and desired to have the fault of Appearance recorded and Judgment given and so it was So likewise 21 R. 2. After the King had given the full power of Parliament to determine all Matters begun into the Hands of twelve Lords or six and six Commoners or any three He adjourned the Parliament from Westminster to Shrewsbury in 15 Hil. and there on March 22. It was shewed to the King how that Robert Possington was impeached at the Parliament at Westminster for being with the Duke of Gloucester in levy at Herring An. 11 R. 2. For which the said Duke was adjudged as Traytor and therefore they brought the King to ordain the like Judgment against Robert Possington though he was dead Whereupon our Lord the King by the assent of the Lords and Knights of Counties having power c. awarded the said Robert guilty c. And that he shall forfeit c. But these extraordinary Precedents cannot lead us into the ordinary course of Proceedings and I alledge them only so as their Errors may be avoided § To conclude it is the just and constant Course of Parliament to bring the Party accused to his Answer yea though he fly Justice yet to send out Proclamations into the Countries that he appear at a Day or else such and such Judgments shall be given against him I confess this Course was omitted in the Judgment against Mompesson 18 Jac. and haply it was not then thought upon the Judicature of Parliament being so long out of use and therefore that cannot be alledged as a leading Precedent And in
to do this and confess it was contrary to the Law of the Land Secondly to preserve their own Right to Judge none but the Peers in Case of Life and Death For then the Kings Steward is to sit in the Chancellors place and the Lords are to be Tryers and Judges And so by judging others then their Peers descended below their degrees For none but Peers are so to be Tryed and Judged It is otherwise in Cases of misdemenors then the Chancellor keeps his Place and the Lords are only Judges and not Tryers they may command a Jury to be Impannelled For Tryal of the Facts if the truth appear not by the Parties answer the Testimonies are Exhibited as 1 R. 2. in the Case of Alice Peirce Here ariseth a Question Whether the Spiritual Lords de Jure are tryable by their Peers or no Out of Parliament they are not to be Tryed by the Peers But the doubt is whether in time of Parliament they are to be so Tryed or no To me it seems they may if the matter be moved against them in time of Parliament For as it is in the Parliament at York 15 E. 2. in the Act for the Repeal of the Spencers banishment they are Peers in Parliament Note that the Petition for the Repeal saith that the Bishops are Peers in Parliament The Bishops name themselves Peers of the Land And the Chancellor to the King And the Act stile them Peers of the Land in Parliment There be divers Presidents also of the Tryal of Bishops by their Peers in Parliament as well for Capital offences as misdemenors whereof they have been accused in Parliament As the Archbishop of Canterbury 15 E. 3. N. 6 7 8. Et ibid. postea 44 39. Et ibid. 17 E. 3. 22. And the Bishop of Norwich 7. R. 2. for misdemeanors So were the Bishops of York and Chichester Tryed for Treason by their Peers in Parliament upon the Appeal of the Lords Appellants 11 R. 2. Anno 21 R. 2. The Commons accused the Archbishop of Canterbury of Treason and the temporal Lords judged him a Traytor and banished him But if the Bishop be accused out of Parliament he is to be tryed by an Ordinary Jury of Free-holders for his honour is not inheritable as is the temporal Peers out of Parliament save that only of their Tryal As no day of Grace to be granted against them in any Suit A Knight to be returned upon the Pannel where a Bishop is party and no Process in a civil action to be awarded against his body and the like And by this it appeareth what Persons are de Jure tryable by the Lords in Parliament viz. their Peers only Touching the nature of the Offence Herein the complaint and accusation as well of the Party delinquent as offence is to be considered For upon the Information of the King at his Commandment or upon complaint of private Persons the Lords may not by the Law try any but their Peers for Capital offences And the Lords have ever referred offences of other nature complained of by private Persons to the Common-Law if there be remedy unless some special cause appear fit for their own Judgment But upon complaints and accusations of the Commons the Lords may proceed in Judgment against the Delinquent of what degree soever and what nature soever the offence be For where the Commons complain the Lords do not assume to themselves tryal at Common-Law Neither do the Lords at the tryal of a Common Impeachment by the Commons decedere de jure suo For the Commons are then in stead of a Jury and the Parties answer and examination of witnesses are to be in their Presence or they to have Copies thereof And the Judgment is not to be given but upon their demand which is in stead of a verdict so the Lords do only judg not try the Delinquent In the Lords proceedings in Judicature is observed also a certain form which varieth according to the nature of the complaint and the matter complained of so that no general Rules can be given therein though many Judgments have been reversed for errors whereof there be many Precedents And the Execution upon life and death hath been stayed at the Request of the Commons the proceedings being illegal whereof I have seen only one Precedent touching the Duke of Clarence tempore E. 4. Wherefore for our better understanding of the Form of Judicature let us first consider the several causes wherein Judicature belongs to the Parliament and then the ancient way of proceedings in each Cause CHAP. II. In what Cases Judicature belongs to the Parliament JUdicature belongs to the Parliament in these six Cases 1. In Judgments against Delinquents as well for Capital crimes as misdemeanors wherein is to be considered 1. The Accusation 2. The Parties Answer 3. The Replication 4. The proof by Examination of witnesses or otherwise 5. The Judgment 6. The Execution 2. In the Reversing erronious Judgments in Parliament are to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The bringing in the Record 3. The Assignment of Errors 4. The Reversal thereof 3. In the Reversing of erronious Judgments given in the Kings Bench are to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The Writ of Error 3. The bringing in the Record 4. The Assignment of Errors 5. The Writ of Scire facias 6. The Defendants answer 7. The Reversal of the Judgment 4. In deciding of Suits long depending either for difficulty or delay wherein is to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The advice with the Judges 3. The determination of the Lords 5. In hearing complaints of particular Persons on Petitions wherein is to be considered 1. The Petition 2. The Defendants answer 3. The Proof 4. The Orders of the Lords 6. In setting at Liberty any of their own Members or Servants imprisoned and in staying the proceedings at the Common-Law during the Priviledge of Parliament wherein consider 1. The Quality of the Person Imprisoned 2. The Parties Answer at whose Suit he is imprisoned 3. The manner of his Charge In certifying the Elections and Returns of Knights and Citizens for the Parliament But now the Commons alone determine of this Wherefore I will only shew that the Commons did heretofore Petition to the Lords for redress herein and what course was then taken I leave it to the Clerk of that House to shew how the Commons proceed herein at this day Of the rest in Order And first Of Judgments on Delinquents § 1. In Judgment against Delinquents is first to be considered the Accusation For as in the Kings Bench the Justices proceed not to the Arraignment of any Offender without an Indictment So the Lords have not proceeded to Judgment unless the Crimes have first been presented to them by way of Accusation If otherwise their Judgments have been reputed erronious as that against the Spencers was in 15 E. 2. Rot. 2. claus lit penden For the same Persons cannot be both Accusers
the King and Lords deliberated The Judges of the Common Law and the Sages of the Civil Law were charged by the King to give their best Counsel to the Lords of the Parliament how to proceed in their Appeal rightly Who after long Consultation answered the Lords That the Appeal is in no point made and declared according to the Order of the Common or Civil Law The Lords after long Debate declared by the Assent of the King that the Offences being committed by the Peers the Cause should be determined in Parliament only and that by the Law and Order of Parliament only and adjudged the said Appeal with the Process thereon depending to be good according to the Laws and Course of Parliaments And the Default of Appearance was Recorded and Judgment given c. against those who made their default After which Sir Nicholas Brembre a Commoner was brought Prisoner before the King and the Lords at the request of the said Appellants And the said Articles being read he pleaded Not Guilty which he was ready to defend with his Body Whereupon the Commons of the Parliament said that they had seen and considered all the said Articles which they found to be true and that they likewise as much as in them lay did also accuse the said Appellees which they would have done and it appertained to them to have done had not the aforesaid Appellants pursued the said Appeals Whereupon was answered by the Lords of Parliament That the Battel doth not lie in this Case but that they upon examination of the Articles would proceed to Judgment Here I note That the Lords cannot proceed against a Commoner but upon a Complaint of the Commons But here is not expressed how the Commons came daily to have a sight of these Articles I deny not but after they were read in their presence for their presence is always understood in Judicature upon Life and Death prout postea they demanded a sight of the Articles and considered of them apart and then supplied the Defects thereof And this also is to be observed that the Commons accuse Commoners as the Lords do their own Peers I suppse that Brambre was denied the Battel because the Commons accused him also otherwise he ought to have it granted upon an Appeal Afterwards the Commons themselves accused and impeached divers Commoners prout 2 Mar. Sir Rob. Belknap L. Chief Justice of the Common Pleas Sir John Carey late Chief Baron and other Justices c. The Records were brought into the Parliament at the Demand of the Commons and the Commons accused the Justices for their untrue Answer made unto sundry Questions before the King at Nottingham to the emboldning of the aforesaid Offenders in their traiterous Designs and Attempts c. Unto which they answered c. were adjudged c. And then follows another Impeachment of the Commons thus The Accusements and Impeachments made by the Commons of the Realm against Simon de Burle Sir John Beauchamp Sir John Salisbury and Sir James Berners Knights do ensue underwritten whereof the Commons pray Judgment in this present Parliament Thus much touching the Appeal of 11 R. 2. But this begot another Appeal in the 21th of the said K. R. 2. in the Parliament begun Sept. 14. being the Feast of St. Oswald Edmond Earl of Rutland Tho. Earl of Kent John Earl of Hunt Tho. Earl of Nottingh Joh. Earl of Somerset Jo. Earl of Salisbury the Lord Despencer and William Scroop Chancellor unto our Lord the King in their proper persons delivered unto our Lord the King then sitting in the great Hall within the Castle at Nottingh in his Royal Estate with a Crown on his Head a Bill of Appeal against Tho. Duke of Gloucester Richard Earl of Arundel and Tho. Earl of Warwick The which Bill of Appeal is recited in that Parliament and as it seems per Copiam verborum inde was penned by the Advice of some Civil Lawyer It seems also they were very careful herein to avoid all Errors of the former Appeals For in that of 11 R. 2. they appealed divers Commoners but here the Lords appealed none but Peers then it was done by word of mouth they being called to the King upon some other occasion but now it was done solemnly in writing and was delivered to the King sitting in his Throne of State There they offer'd to prove their Accusation by Battel a thing not meet for the Parliament or in what course his Majesty would ordain it but here the Bill was read in Parliament and they said they have been and are ready to prove c. as you our thrice Redoubted King and this Honourable Court of Parliament should ordain Nor were they less careful in their proceeding to Judgment to avoid the Errors in the former prout in the Answer But these Appeals are now abolished by 1 H. 4. c. 14. and not without cause for as this Accusation was extraordinary so were the Proceedings carried with a strong hand the former by the Lords this by the King prout ex Chroniculis in quinto comparet cum Codice 1 Maij A Brief whereof so much as concerns this Appeal follows hereafter at large with the Precedents of 21 R. 2. Ad quod Parliamentum convenire jussit Rex omnes Dominos sibi adhaerentes cum Sagittariis viris armatis tanquam ad bellum contra hostes omnino progressuri fuissent Ipse vero Rex ut efficacius proficere possit nequam conceptus malefactores de Comit ' Cestr ' congregari fecit ad velandum locum stramine c. Erexerat autem Rex quandam domum amplissimam in Palatio Westmonaster ' quae pene totum Palatii spatium occupavit in qua sibi Thronus parabatur altissimus pro cunctis Regni Statibus locus largus pro Appellantibus in uno latere locus specialiter deputatus in alio latere locus largus pro Responsu assignatus seorsim vero pro Nobilitatibus Parliamenti qui non fuerunt electi per Communitatem Et Forale nuncupatur Parliamentum Thus much of Accusation by Appeal which when any of the Lords accused others out of Parliament was summoned but God be thanked they are abolished 1 H. 4. c. 14. CHAP. III. The Parties Answer THe Party accused is to be brought to his Answer otherwise the whole Judgment will be erroneous as was Mortym 23 E. 3. Numb 10. and Spencer's 15 E. 2. and John Matrevers 21 E. 3. Numb 65. dors Although the Party be absent yet the Parliament hath used all means possible to have his Answer prout 21 R. 2. where the Lords Appellants and the Commons also accused Tho. Mortymer of Treason and the Commons said That it was notoriously known unto them that the King had sent his Mandate by W. D. a Serjeant at Arms unto the said Mortymer in Ireland commanding him upon his Allegiance to come before the King in all haste to answer c. And that the
Precedents mention the King's Assent in Capital Judgments except that one against Matrevers 4 E. 3. which might be the omission of the Clerks who drew up the Roll for it is said directly afterwards in the said Bill Numb 6. That the Peers gave those Judgments in the presence of our Lord the K. and by his Assent And except that of 1 R. 2. against Weston in the last Day of the Parliament and it was 3. in the Afternoon that Day before the Lords had determined what to do in that Business so that it may be the Lords were prevented of time herein to have which they respited Execution for that the King was not informed of the manner thereof Secondly For that the Lords Appellants 11 R. 2. who had then great Forces about them were so earnest with the King for his Assent to the Judgment against Burley That the Duke of Gloucest told him as appeareth by his own Confession 21 R. 2. That if he would be King he should not intreat for Simon de Burley to save him from Death And in the end when his Majesty would not assent to their Judgment yet they wrought so that Messengers were sent unto him and brought word not before they gave Judgment against Simon and the King's Assent is mentioned in the said Judgment All which the said Lords would not have done had not the King's Assent been necessary And afterwards in the Parliament of 21 R. 2 The Lord Cobham being accused for giving Judgment without the King's Assent answered That the Messenger brought word That his Majesty had assented And yet because he did not gainsay that the King did deny his Assent the Commons immediately demanded Judgment All which seem to imply That the King's Assent is necessary in Judgments upon Capital Offences Touching the Second viz. Judgment against the King 's Will. It is all one with Judgment without the King's Assent Touching the Third viz. In the Absence of the King The Judgments of this kind are good notwithstanding so as the King doth assent as that of Simon de Burley 11 R. 2. Touching the Absence of many of the Peers That is to say of many of them and against their will This cannot invalid their Judgment so as the greater number of the Lords be then present accompting the Proxies of the absent Lords for it is not material whether some Lords do absent themselves or disassent The chiefest Matter is the Assent of the Lords who are present either in Person or by Proxy The others are to Answer for their Absence without a just Cause shewn or a proper Assent § 2. In Judgment on Misdemeanors the King's Assent is not required 50 E. 3. The Lords judged divers Commoners for Misdemeanors and the King's Assent not mentioned as Richard Lyons William Lord Latymer a Privy Councellor John Lord Nevil a Privy Councellor Jo. Peecher and others The King was then sick at his Mannor of Eltham and on the last day of the Parliament the Lords Prelates and Commons came before him there and he heard the Petitioners and their Answers for most part read and also Judgment given on the Privy Councellors and others dont ils se leyron franchement le respons de mesme nostre Seignior le Roy Numb 15. Which shews that the King had not assented to them 7 R. 2. The Bishop of Norwich was accused of Misdemeanors and judged in 10 R. 2. The Lord Chancellor Mich. de la Poole was judged by the Lords for Misdemeanors and Speed fol. saith That the King was much displeased thereat for it appeareth he gave not his consent And it was one of the Questions demanded of Tresilian and others 11 R. 2. Whether the Judgment were erroneous or not and resolved to be erroneous yet it was not objected against any the Lords Appellors that the Judges proceeded without the King's Assent §. 3. The King's Presence in Parliament In 4 E. 3. The King commanded the Lords to do right and lawful Judgment on Mortimer The which Earls Barons and Peers having examined the Articles came again before the King and said c. Ibidem The King commanded them to give Judgment on Simon de Bereford The which Earls Barons and Peers came again before the King and said c. And so the King was present at their Judgment but not at their Consultations 10 R. 2. The King was present when the Commons accused the Lord Chaneellor William de la Poole of Misdemeanors but he was not present at his Trial for he demanded if he ought to answer sans presence de dit Roy being Chancellor and in the end he answered notwithstanding 21 R. 2. In the cruel Parliament of the Lords Appellants the King was present at the Parlies Non constat whether he was present at the Consultation of the Lords 5 H. 4. The King was present when the Earl of Northumberland was to be tried upon his own Petition and so were the Commons And the King delivered the Petition to the Judges for their Opinion but the Lords claimed their Right But this was on the Wednesday and the Friday following the King and Commons met there again and the Chancellor rehearseth First What was done the first Day and the Lords having had competent deliberation on the said Petition and having heard and considered the Statute They adjudged c. It is plain the King was not present at this Consultation of the Lords though at their Judgment 7 H. 4. He commanded the Lords to advise what manner of Process shall be made and what Judgment shall be rendred against Henry de Peircy Earl of Northumberland and a Week after the Lords declared their Opinion to the King And it appeareth in that Roll very clearly that all Evidences and Examinations were shewn and taken by the Lords in the absence of the King and their Advice also agreed on in his Absence but the Judgment reversed in his Presence To conclude The King may be present if he please at the Parties Answer in Capital Causes and at the Judgments given prout c. But he was never present at other times of Proceeding against the Delinquent nor at any Answer for Misdemeanors for ought I have yet seen §. 4. The Presence of the Lords Spiritual In Cases of Misdemeanors the Lords Spiritual have ever been present but never in Offences Capital This is so generally-received of all men that it is not worth the Labour to prove it yet I will vouch the Precedents For it may be out of one or other of them somewhat may occur worthy the Observation In Misdemeanors In 1 R. 2. Alice Peirce was brought before the Prelates and Lords in Parliament to Answer and the Prelates and Lords did ordain 42 E. 3. Numb 20 c. John at Lee was put to Reason before the Prelates Lords Dukes Earls Barons and some of the Commons 7 R. 2. Jo. Cavendish accused the Lord Chancellor of Bribery before the Prelates and Lords in
Parliament Numb 9. Whereupon the Prelates and Clergy being severally examined deputed for them all Tho. de Piercy But in ancient times in libro Mailicess Numb 9. which hath written somewhat largely of this Parliament It is said The Pardon 's granted to the Earls of Arundel were first repealed by the Assent of the Prelates for which he blames them much saying Dederunt ergo locum Praelati Judicio Sanguinis in hoc facto ita quod dubitatur à pluribus si incurrunt irregularitatem pro negotio memorato unde contigit quod propter istud minus peccatum consequentur nam exactum est ab iis vellent nollent ut Laicam Personam constituerent ad Judicium Sanguinis dandum in dicto Parliamento si necesse foret occasio emersisset I have perused all Judgments and Ordinances in Parliament and do not yet find one whereto any Exceptions were taken for the Absence of the Prelates and Clergy I find an Exception to the Judgment of the Exile in 15 E. 2. for that it was made without the Assent of the Prelates who were present and protested in writing against it And one of the Errors whereupon it was repealed is for that it was made without the Assent of them who were Peers of the Realm in Parliament But this Repeal was per duress force c. prout 1 E. 3. c. 2. So as this cannot be alledged for a Legal Precedent 5 H. 4. The Earl of Northumberland came before the King the Lords and Commons in Parliament The Lords made Protestation that the Judgment belonged to them only c. The Petition being read before the King and the said Lords as Peers of the Parliament unto whom such Judgments do of Right belong considering c. adjudged that it was neither Treason nor Felony c. Note That all this Parliament the Bishop of was Chancellor and he as Chancellor delivered the Opinion of the Lords when they had acquitted the said Earl of Treason Whereby it seems that He and the other Bishops were present at the Trial of Life and Death wherefore though the Record doth here say the Lords indefinitely we must understand the Lords Temporal only especially since they claimed the said Judgment to belong to them In 4 E. 3. Judgment was given by the Earls Barons and Peers as Judges in Parliament in point of Treason where the Prelates are not named and therefore understood of the Temporal Lords only This will be explained by the next of 7 H. 4. Rot. Process coram Domino Rege c. The King commanded the Lords Temporal Peers of this Realm to advise what Process to make and what Judgment to render against the Earl of Northumberland and the Lord Bardolph The Lords advised thereupon and reported their Opinions to the King The said Lords Peers of the Realm by Assent of the King Ordain That Proclamation should be made for the said Earl and Lord Bardolph to appear or else to be Convicted by Award of the Peers in Parliament The King did farther demand the Opinion of the said Lords Temporal touching the Archbishop of York unto whom the said Lords Temporal said c. The Commons prayed the King that they might have Cognizance c. Whereupon by Advice of the Lords Temporal the Returns of the former Proclamations were made at the Parliament-door for the said Earl and Lord to appear By Advice of the said Lords Temporal the Returns of the former Proclamations were examined the said Lords Temporal considered of the Errors therein By the said Lords Temporal with the Assent of the King by their Authority New Proclamation is granted the Return whereof is read in full Parliament before the King and the said Lords Temporal Whereupon the said Lords Temporal then being in the said Parliament by Advice and Assent of our Lord the King by their Authority in Parliament Awarded the said c. Convict of Treason Here all was done by the Lords Temporal from the first beginning of the Trial until the Judgment and yet the Judgment is said to be in Full Parliament notwithstanding the Spiritual Lords are not once mentioned nor intended to be present at any time whilst the Matter of Treason was handled §. 5. Touching the Presence of the Commons in Cases Capital I observe the Presence of the Commons to be necessary at the Parties Answer and Judgment in Cases Capital Now one Reason for the King's Assent and the Commons presence in such Judgments may be this Both King and People are to be satisfied for the death of the Subject therefore all Trials for Life and Death are publick in the full Assembly of the Court And how can it be said in Full Parliament when the Commons one of the States are absent For this purpose the Court of Requests called Camera Alba was prepared for such Trials where both Lords and Commons might meet more conveniently yet though the Commons were present at such times they had no Voice there But at their Return to their own Assembly they considered among themselves if the Proceedings were Legal and might come again and shew it and require a Rehearsing of that Cause as they did at the Judgment of the Duke of Clarence 18 E. 3. Nor are the Commons to be present when the Lords do consider of the Delinquent's Answer and the Proofs and do determine of their Judgment The Precedents are these 10 R. 2. Gomeniz and Weston were brought before the Lords and Commons seaux a la blanch Chambre and Answered on Friday 27 Novemb. and there they were delivered to the Constable of the Tower who was commanded to bring them again the next Morning In the mean time the Earls Barons and Baronets assembled and advised from the time that the said Answers were given in Parliament on Friday until part of Saturday to the hour of Three of the things touching the Answer aforesaid and then the Prisoners were brought in to the Parliament 10 R. 2. Rot. de Pardonatione Haxei 7 Febr. Anno praedicto Praedictus Tho. Haxei coram Nobis omnibus Dominis Parliamenti Nostri existentibus in Alba Camera adductus fuit Billa praedicta coram praefato Thoma ibidem per Praeceptum Nostrum lecta fuit Quaesitum fuit per Charissimum Avunculum Nostrum Ducem Aquitain Lanc. Seneschallum Angliae à praefato Thoma si ipse dictum praefatum Communibus tradidit 5 H. 4. The Earl of Northumberland was brought to his Trial on Wednesday Then the Commons were present but I do not find that they were present with the Lords between Wednesday and Friday when the Lords advised on the Earl's Petition This Record mentions not where the Assembly was Numb 7. H. 4. Quint. of his Reign After the Lords had Awarded Proclamation against the Earl of Northumberland and the Lord Bardolph to appear at a Day or Judgment to be given The Commons not being acquainted therewith they came and prayed the King they might
private persons where the party might have his Remedy at the Common Law prout Botheil Cooper Anno 50 E. 3. accused William Ellis for extorting 17 Nobles from certain Merchants at Pruse and also for their wrong Imprisonment by the false Suggestion of William Ellis to the King And the Lords referred the taking of the 17 Nobles to the Common Law But upon the Examination of the Imprisonment it was proved That Ellis did write his Letters to one of the King's Bed-Chamber falsly suggesting against Botheil and Cooper which Letters were shewn to the King his Majesty then commanded them to be Committed This the Lords expounded to be false Suggestion in Ellis The King himself judged him for the same Had that Point been cleared in the Statute of False Suggestions haply the Lords would have referred it to its proper place So also Anno 5. E. 2. The Lords referred the Accusation of Clingdon to be Tried at the Common Law Secondly Touching the Demand That verily belongs to the Party at whose Suit it is To the King's Councel for the King if the Articles were de part le Roy and to the Commons against an Impeached Delinquent By whom Judgment ought to be Rendred It appeareth plainly by many Precedents That all Iudgments for Life and Death are to be rendred by the Steward of England or by the Steward of the King's House and this is the Reason why at every Parliament the King makes a Lord Steward of his House though he hath none out of Parliament And at such Arraignment the Steward is to sit in the Chancellor's place And all Judgments for Misdemeanors by the Chancellor or by him who supplies the Chancellor's place CHAP. VI. The Precedents for Life and Death ANno 10 R. 2. John Lord Gome 〈…〉 and William Weston were brought by the Constable of the Tower before the Lords in Full Parliament sitting in the White Chamber where they were severally Arraigned at the Commandment of the Lords by Richard le Scroop Chief Steward of the House of our Lord the King in manner following Here the Lords commanded the Arraignment of certain Earls Peers of the Realm They did not appoint the Steward to do it It belonged to his Office Anno 20 R. 2. Thomas Haxey was Arraigned of High Treason before the King the Lords and Commons in full Parliament in Alba Camera by the Duke of Lancaster Seneschallum Angliae and the Judgment rendred by him Anno 21 R. 2. All those Judgments on the Appeal were rendred per Seneschallum Angliae The Records of E. 3. and H. 4. are silent herein by whom the Judgment was rendred It may be Objected That Anno 5. H. 4. The Lord Chancellor kept his place at the Trial of the Earl of Northumberland because he did deliver the Opinion of the Lords That could not properly be called a Trial for it was upon the Earl's own Petition And if it were resolved whether it were Felony or Treason it should have been done by the Steward sitting in the Chancellor's place Neither doth it appear by the Record that the Chancellor kept his place though he afterwards delivered the Opinion of the Lords So likewise Anno 1 Car. 1. Febr. 6. The Lord Keeper kept his place when the Articles of Treason were read against the Earl of Bristol but he did not Arraign him Then they were read and his Answer heard by the appointment of the House and some Witnesses examined also to the end they might understand the true Nature of his Offence and then to declare how and in what manner to proceed against him for the same The Spiritualty did not deliver their Opinion therein To conclude All Records that are which mention by whom the Delinquents in Cases Capital were Arraigned do say that it was by the Steward of England or of the King's House And in remembrance of this a Lord Steward is appointed at every Trial of a Peer of Parliament Touching Judgment rendred by the Chancellor in Cases of Misdemeanors it is needless to recite any Precedents only this I will say The Chancellor never gave Judgment on Life and Death and the Steward never on Misdemeanors And though there be Precedents of Judgments given by the Steward of England in Parliament prout 20 21 R. 2. yet I have seen none of the Judgments on the Peers rendred by the Steward of the King's House And the reason may be for that there was anciently a Seneschallus Angliae Quaere tamen whether the Steward of the King's House being a Peer may give Judgment on a Peer or not I think he may if there be no Steward of the House constantly made every Parliament though but during the Sessions The last Considerable Thing in Judicature is CHAP. VII The Execution of the Judgment ANd first in Capital Offences I have seen but two Precedents thereof in the Parliament-Rolls The First is 4 E. 3. Which begun on Monday after the Feast of S. Katherine There were long Articles exhibited against Mortimer for Treason and he was adjudged to die for Treason and thereupon saith the Record Commandment was given to the Earl Marshal to Execute the Judgment and also to the Mayor Aldermen and Sheriffs of the City of London and to the Constable of the Tower and likewise to them who had the Guard of the said Mortimer to be aiding to the said Earl Marshal to do the said Execution The which Execution was done and performed upon Thursday next after the first Day of the Parliament which was the 29th Day of November Ibidem Num. 2. Judgment was given on Simon de Bereford to be Drawn and Hang'd And thereupon it was Commanded that the Marshal should do Execution near the Tower of London And the said Earl of Arundel was Beheaded ou the same Day The Earl of Nottingham one of the Lords Appellants was Lord Marshall at that time and therefore his Deputy did Execution Item The Earl of Warwick being adjudged to die the King did pardon the Execution and granted him his Life viz. That he should remain in perpetual prison out of England in the Isle of Man c. And that he be at Sea on his passage before the end of one Month. And thereupon he was delivered to Monsieur William le Scroope and to Monsieur Stephen his Brother to bring him safely to the said Isle of Man c. The Earl Marshal was Commanded to Execution on a Peer and the Marshal on a Commoner The Command no doubt issued from the Lords with the King's Assent herein Thus much touching Execution quoad Mortem In Misdemeanors the greatest Corporal punishment hath been Imprisonment I find no other in Ancient Parliament But who was the Officer to carry the Delinquent to prison is not Recorded save he to whose Custody he was Committed prout 42. E. 3. John at Lee was Committed to the Tower Et dit fuit al Monsieur Alley de Buxhill Constable de la Tower que il