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is in the Saints for the Comforter the spirit of truth is one in it self and the same Though it comforteth the Saints and reproveth the world and the wicked for their sins And men are reconciled to God by Christ for he was in God reconciling to himself and none are reconciled but who walk in the light and followes it for who walkes in the light the blood of Christ cleanseth them from all sin and they are reconciled and none else And the word of God is in the heart as the Scripture saith Deut. 30. Rom. 10. and that is the word of prophesie and that word is sufficient to lead out of all sin unto God if men believe in Jesus and receiveth him and the spirit of truth leadeth into all truth all that follow it That Christ as man is not in heaven yea that he hath ceased to be man and consequently to be Mediator and when I told them he should come in the Clouds in like manner as he ascended and that at his coming the Elements melteth one of their Teachers told me that the clouds were scattered and the Elements melted in him Ans. Christ Jesus is ascended into Heaven and sits at the right hand of the Father yea he is ascended far above all heavens as saith the Scripture but that is utterly false whereas thou saist we say he ceased to be man that is thy lie and so I passe it And we believe according to the Scriptures that he shall come in the Clouds in like manner as he Ascended and at his coming the Elements shall melt And it is not error for a man to say the Clouds were scattered and the Elements melted in him for Clouds are darkness and covers the face of the Sun many times as thou mayest behold in the Firmament But darkness is yet over thy heart and the Elements are not melted away And therefore thou art in thy imaginations putting light for darkness and darkness for light and calling evil good and good evil That the bodies of men shall never rise again after death and that the day of Iudgement is come already and that now the Saints do Iudge the world Ans. We do believe the Resurrection according to the Scriptures for if onely in this life we have hope we were of all men most miserable And we believe that the dead shall arise again after death and every one shall receive according to the deeds done in the body they that have done evil shall arise to Eternal condemnation and they that have done good unto Eternal salvation in the day of Judgement And the Lord cometh with and in ten thousand of his Saints to judge the world and the Saints upon earth do receive the spirit of judgement and do judge the world even all things for the spiritual man judgeth all things even in this present age if thou canst receive it thou mayest They are utterly against water Baptisme and Administering of the Lords Supper with bread and wine Because they say they have the substance of all within Ans. As for Baptisme and the Supper of the Lord we do own it and it is practised of us in the life and power of God but as for your Baptisme that is to say sprinkling of infants calling it the Baptisme into the faith and that they are made members of the Church thereby and that it is a seal of regeneration as you say in your Common-Prayer book and Directory that we do utterly deny and doth say it is no Ordinance of God neither was ever commanded by him or practiced by his Saints but is an Institution of the Whore of Rome And England received it by a Popish Institution and your practice of it is idolatry and not any part of the true worship of God And as for your breaking bread and drinking wine in that manner and form as it is practiced in the Church of England among the unconverted and unregenerated that we utterly deny also to be of God or to be ever commanded of him or practiced by his Saints and this is neither Heresie nor error in us but true bearing witness against your Idolatrous wayes and practices with which the Nations are deceived whom the Whore causeth to drink her cup even all people hath drunk her cup and she hath drunk the blood of them that would not And she hath long sate upon Nations Peoples and multitudes but now she is made bare and discovered and all you her false Ministers And whereas the Author doth say these are some of the strange and horrid opinions which they have audatiously invented c. Answ. It is no strange thing that truth be called Heresie and error and that it be branded with a name of strange and horrid opinions and such like but we do acknowledge that in that way that is called Heresie do we worship the true and living God and wo will be unto them that put light for darkness and darkness for light but when these particular things and their answers are truely read and weighed then let spiritual men judge for this Author must not be judge in his own case whose judgement is corrupted and his wayes abomination And it hath been the work of that generation of those called Ministers I mean for this seven years to cry out to the Magistrates and to send one Paper after another of this nature to them but what hath it advantaged them for hath not the Lord turned their wisdom backward And even the way which they have thought to destroy the heritage of the Lord the Lord hereby hath made his heritage more glorious and so they have striven against the Lord and altogether in vain and their doings shall they eat the fruit of and receive the reward of their own work And whereas the Author further saith such as hath saving work in their souls and that knowes God and Christ c. can not but bless God for keeping them from the great blackness and darkness that hath invaded the souls of these deluded wretches Answ. They that know the saving work in their souls and that knowes God and Christ in truth and righteousness and that calleth upon him with an upright heart we are one with them and they with us And they alone that walkes in the light that Christ hath enlighted them withall are kept from the darkness that doth invade the deluded and as for thy envious reflection as poor deluded wretches and such like these words are to thy self for they have no entrance into our dwellings the Lord hath saved us by his right hand we bear them as his reproaches for righteousness sake And whereas thou sayest it is very sad that after so much Preaching of the Gospel so many should take those things for new lights which are but Antiquated errors c. Ans. It is very sad indeed that the Ministers of this Nation should have so fair a Profession upon them and should put the Nation to so much charge
faith but that faith alone justifies which gives to receive Christ and him to live in us and to dwell in us by that faith They utterly renounce the Doctrine of justification by the imputation of the righteousnesse of Christ or by the obedience he performed or sufferings he sustained or underwent in his own person without us Answer This is partly true and partly a lie we do indeed renounce the profession of justification by the imputation of Christ or his Righteousnesse performed without men by men while they are in the degenerated estate and unconverted and unreconciled and unborn again for by such profession of justification many deceive their souls but yet we say that Righteousnesse is imputed to us and reckoned unto us who believe in Christ and have received him even the obedience and sufferings that he performed without us is ours who have received him within us and witnesseth Christ in us and therefore we are not reprobates yet we do acknowledge he wrought perfect righteousnesse by obedience and suffering without us and that righteousnesse is ours by faith which faith hath received Christ to dwell in us and he and his righteousnesse his obedience and sufferings we enjoy in us in spirit if any can receive it let them for that he wrought Righteousnesse this is acknowledged but who hath a part in this righteousnesse that is disputable They wholly renounce the Doctrine of Election and Reprobation and it is one of the great reasons for which they decry the Ministers because they assert it they say Jacob and Esau are in a man and the good seed is Jacob which God electeth and the bad seed is Esau which he reprobates Answ. The Doctrine of Election and Reprobation we do own according to the Scriptures and therefore hast thou belied us and slandered us and art found reproveable and would incense mens minds against us for advantage to thy self but to some in that house we are better known then thou canst report of us and yet thou sayest we say that Iacob and Esau are in a man and the good seed God electeth and the bad he Reprobates and thou mayest here see thy confusion and thy ignorance uttered in the self same lines for thou sayest we renounce the Doctrine of Election and Reprobation and yet sayest we say the good seed God electeth and the bad seed he reprobateth and this shewes what spirit thou art of and how that the spirit of unrighteousnesse doth possess thee and leads thee to speak without understanding and we further say man being degenerated became reprobated and cast out and all by nature are the children of wrath and the children of wrath are all in the reprobate state and none are elected but who are elected in Christ the seed of David and so in the first Adam all are reprobated and all that are in the second Adam are elected and the Election and Reprobation stands not in the persons but in the seeds and yet the persons are blessed or cursed in the love or in the displeasure of God according as the seed of God or the seed of the Serpent lives and dwels and bears rule in the persons and we do indeed decry and deny you the professed Ministers upon many accounts more then one and we have already and may in time to come shew sufficient reasons against you both in Doctrine and practise and otherwayes that you are not the Ministers of Christ but the Ministers of Satan generally That Iesus Christ as he is the seed of the woman and the seed of Abraham is in every one and that a measure or part of the substance that was conceived in the womb of the Virgin Mary is in every one Answ. Jesus Christ he is the seed of the woman and the seed of Abraham according to the flesh and after the spirit the Son of the living God and this Christ that was and is and is to come who was dead but is alive and lives for evermore the alone Saviour of the world he hath given a measure of Light and Life unto every man and there is a Light from him that shines in the hearts of all men shining in darknesse the Light shines but the darknesse comprehends it not and this was Iohns Testimony and is our Testimony that Christ enlighteneth every man or all mankind that cometh into the World for in him was life and the Life was the Light of men as the scripture saith and the Apostle Preached the Light that shined in peoples hearts and it was that Light that gave them the Light of the knowledge of the Glory of God but thou hast discovered thy self to be a stumbler at the stumbling-stone and hath taken offence at the light like the Pharisees who professed the scriptures as the Priests of England do but were ignorant of the Life the end of the words and knew not Christ the substance but the stone at which you stumble will break you to pieces and grind you to powder even Christ the Light of the World that lighteth every man that cometh into the World That the soul is a part or measure of God as they speak and not a part of man but uncreated And so is that light which is in every one Ans. The soul is immortal and God is immortal for God breathed into man the breath of life and he became a living soul as saith the Scripture and the soul is related to God for what a man works against God it is against his own soul for all sin is against God and against a mans own soul And God who hath all souls in his hand who is the Creator and gave life into the soul that is immortal and can never die Though death hath passed over it And hath reigned over all from Adam till Moses And Christ is the light of the world that gives life unto the soul And he raiseth up the soul out of death and misery and brings the soul to rejoyce in God its Saviour And Christ is the souls Bishop its Pastor and Feeder and who knowes Christ knowes him that was before the world was made and sees to the beginning and to the ending and his soul rests in God that is over all That the light in the heathens who never heard that Iesus Christ died at Ierusalem is the same for the quality of it with that which is in the most godly person onely there is a difference in the quantitie And men are reconciled to God by following of it This light they say is the sure word of prophesie and that it is sufficient to lead out of all sin unto God An. The Testimony of Iohn is that Christ is the light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world And if every man then the heathen who hath not the relation of Christs life and his death at Jerusalem yea and it is the same light that is in the heathen the same in nature and kind as it