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A51723 Considerations upon the lives of Alcibiades and Coriolanus by Marques Virgilio Malvezzi, one of the supreme councell of warre, to his Catholick Majestie ; dedicated to the King, his master ; englished by Robert Gentilis, gent.; Considerationi con occasione d'alcuni luoghi delle vite d'Alcibiade et di Coriolano. English Malvezzi, Virgilio, marchese, 1595-1653.; Gentilis, Robert. 1650 (1650) Wing M356; ESTC R12183 129,318 301

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of the violent namely of not being durable Wherefore those that are such to keep themselves long in command have had their recourse to art when the favour of nature hath failed them feigning to have had some commerce with the Gods So that in mine opinion we may say that the understandingest doth command by cunning the most rash by violence and he that is endowed with true Fortitude by nature And indeed nature whose chiefe aime is to preserve the Species inclines man to obey him who may best preserve him And because he that hath fortitude is such a one he shall before others be set in this naturall state free from all violence and men will obey him in whom they shall see this vertue shine more then in others Coriolanus did not so much desire to bee honoured himselfe as to be commended to his Mother he esteemed of honours because they caused joy in her But why should others joy increase ours whether it be that of our Parents and Kindreds or our friends Man is so set upon the satisfying of his passions and the passions are so joyned and linked together and also desirous to be satisfied that the perfectly pleasing of ones passion or the being content with having pleased it is not ordinarily attained unto when the rest are froward and distasted For satisfaction of the sense of tasting savoury meat would be sufficient But he that will have it perfumed seekes to content the smelling also If he desires colour handsomnesse and shape he seeks to have the eye also pleased therewith and that the hearing likewise may have its delight he will eate his meat where there is playing and singing Neither there doth the sensuality of man composed of soule and body rest though his body wallow in delights the passions of the soul must also have some food feeding his ambition with finenesse of Table-linnen richnesse of vessels number of attendants invention disposition and singularity In the sense of feeling man should be content with softnesse but hee will have beauty for the eyes he desires perfumes to please the smell Nobility and vertue to appay his ambition and to content his irascicall part could he not also satisfie himselfe with the death of his enemy No fully to please the passions of his minde though he oftentimes doe it with losse and danger he will vain-gloriously have it known that it was he that slue him and the greater his innocency was the more he rejoyces in his revenge These examples are so cleare that they put it out of all question that mans desire is not content with the satisfaction of the passions of the body if he doth likewise in some sort partly satisfie his ambition The same as I believe happens as truly though not so plainly in the satisfying of ambition Cold and unsavoury seeme the advancements to honours and dignities all increases of greatnesse let them be of never so great moment seem despicable if there be not some content likewise given to the two chiefe passions of the body Irascible and Concupiscible Thereunto hath regard the desire of having at that time both those we love and those we ha●e alive that we may rejoyce at the griefe which wee see in the one and the pleasure which we espy in the other That is a kinde of revenge belonging to the Irascible and this a kind of benefit done to him who is beloved which may be reduced to the Concupiscible Hee will thinke himselfe unfortunate who arriving to any happinesse hath not these two spectators a friend and an enemy Hence proce●ds the originall cause of his excessive delight who comes to great preferment in his fathers life time because that in this case both the foresaid affections are satisfied the sonne being both beloved also emulated by the father And though the emulation bee not so apparant yet sometimes there is as much of it as there is of love lesse discovered but sometimes more sharp whereupon he did very well that made it the chiefe of his joyes that his Father and his mother had seen him ride in triumph And it is no marvell if he did desire the presence of the one more than of the other because in the other wants emulation And indeed the delight is more perfect which we receive from the love that belongs to both than from the emulation which belongs particularly to the Father it failing unlesse it be by reflection of any desire which may produce griefe But how can it bee that a mans joy encreasing by his friends rejoycing his sorrowes should decrease by his friends grieving at his sorrowes St. Thomas saith that the friends griefe is considered not as a reall thing but as a mark and signe of one not as a dolorous passion but as a signe of love whereby the comfort is received To this learned saying might also be added That a friend being beloved as ones selfe we desire that all his actions should be perfect wherefore it doth trouble us to see him rejoyce in our calamities and we are glad when with his sorrow hee sympathizes with us in them The former being a signe of his slighting us and the other of his constancy in affection Adde to this finally the delight a man takes when he findes he hath made a happy choice of a friend and grief which oppresses him if he proves false Sannieticus King of Aegypt being taken prisoner by Cambyses sees his daughter in a servile habit drawing of water his sonne guarded by armed men to his death he looks upon them both with dry eyes Afterwards he sees one of his friends half naked and almost starved begging food to keepe him alive hee abandons himself to griefe weeping and lamentation The solution of this knot is very difficult Cambyses desires to know the reason and causeth Sanneticus to be examined about it as if he that does a thing alwayes knew the reason why hee doth it He many times is ignorant of it and oftentimes whereas the action produces the effects he makes it to be produced by the effects either to conceale the true cause or to boast of a wisdome which he hath not but onely preposterous ascribing the worke of Fortune to his own prudency The captive King answeres That he having no griefe to equall to the two first calamities had sacrificed it to the third as worthy of it Others will say that the two first brought him to the highest pitch of suffering and the third forced him to run headlong into lamentation Neither of these solutions satisfie me One savours of Poetry and the other is not altogether Philosophicall The greater grief according to Hippocrates doctrine doth not suffer the lesser to be felt then it was either greater or of another nature greater onely would not have been sufficient to extract teares it would rather have hindered the eyes from weeping it was of another nature namely a mixture of joy and griefe the first with its heat being able to make
credit or endanger the losing of their lives is a matter full of hazard and adventure Wise men will come off in their affaires well enough howsoever the businesses prosper and valiant men for the most part overcome dangers be they never so great building their greatnesse where others had prepared a precipice for them It so happened to Saul with David and to Seleucus with Iugurth To deny them those boons and favours which they crave and oppresse their friends moves them to indignation and doth not abate their power The Prince of Orange and the Duke of Ariscot have testified that sufficiently Tiberius increased the peoples love to Germanicus more by persecuting him than if he had cherished him If it fell out well with Agesilaus touching Lysander it was because the goodnesse of the Subject helped him To punish and not utterly extingu●sh great ones is a great error in policie small errors in them ought to be connived at and great faults punished with death There is no medium to be used towards such between cherishing and killing If Astiages in stead of killing Arpagus sonne had put the father to death hee had not lost his Kingdome And if if Craesus had taken away Demetrius his life when he put out his eyes he had not lost himself Let it be as it will certainly it is barbarous inhuman in Comon-wealths Princes to make laws to hinder such as undertake actions worthy of everlasting fame and a glorious memory that are valorous and vertuous both in being and acting when they should rather enact such as might encourage men thereunto He that invented this most wicked Law of Ostracisme was an enemy to God Man and Nature and a ruiner of all good Lawes It a●mes not so much at destroying of tyranny as at the exercising of it with security whether it be in Prince Nobles or People taking away honorable and regardfull subjects whose valour and worth are the Sanctuary to which wronged subjects flye and whose presence is the onely curb to make Princes and Senators ashamed of committing wickednesse There never was any Common-wealth more abounding in worthy men than that of Rome while i● slourished nor that made better use of them than it did while it stood uncorrupted The people did with extraordinary applause honour a Citizens great vertue and punished with most severe justice the defects of the same man if he chanced to alter his nature When they perceived Melius to aspire to tyranny Manlius to attempt it Appius Claudius to have already attained it it did not help Melius hat he had freed them from famine Manlius that he had vindicated them from ssavery nor Appius that hee had been popular But they threw two of them downe headlong from the Tarpeian Rock and conspired the death of the other In the good time of the Common-wealth eminent vertue was much esteemed and not feared because that as soone as it aimed at sinister ends it lost together with its name both favour and applause And whereas it was reverenced whilest it was sincere when once it came to be counterfeit it was condemned The greatest dangers it ran it selfe into was not for having kept their best Citizens amongst them but exiled them As when Coriolanus came to conquer Rome and Furius Camillus was not there to defend it Let Common-wealths be so framed that all the parts thereof may be contented and let Princes rule their Subjects with a Fatherly affectiō that no desire of change may grow up and in so doing they both may cherish and prefer subjects of great worth They shall enjoy their vertue while it is upright without feare because it will be easie to chastise and punish it if once it grow corrupted Alcibiades to make use of his Talent and satisfie his unlimited ambition and desire of glory hinders the Athenians peace and goes to Warre with the Laacedemonians puts his native Countrey in hazard and brings it to a precioice Some subjects are born in Cities with most excellent inclinations and endowments Amongst those that want them as well as amongst those that are full of them some know it and some are ignorant of it One that is good for nothing and knowes he is so doth no hurt because he will not adventure himselfe neither could he do any great hurt if he did not know himself so he were known for then he would not be put to any tryall Indeed if he be not known there may bee some danger in him yet if hee doth not overthrow the Common-wealth or the Prince upon his first tryal before a second they will be undeceived and know what he is He that hath excellent parts and knows not of it is the better and he that hath them and knowes it oftentimes proves the worst And the later is like a medicine which finding no excremēts to expell and break its force joyns with the humors finding noithng to heal corrupts the former The former is like Nature which shewes not her greatest force but upon greatest occasions One like flame set to wood having taken power by the matter bold and confident shewes out his form The other unseen like fire hidden in a stone wants the collision of occasion to manifest and disclose it The one ambitious and proud to passe on a potentia ad actum hunts after occasions many times he takes them great and sometimes they present themselves so sometimes they become so although they were once but mean whereby he loses himselfe and often times brings the ruine of the State al●ng with his own The other being humble seeks not after them and if they joyn with him they draw forth his good parts by the power of the matter He is the securer by so much as there is difference between the taking and seeking after occasions The one raises himselfe with the greatnesse of affaires the other is depressed one endangers the State the other drawes it out of dangers He that doth not know his owne worth dies unfortunate if occasions do not seek and finde him out sois he that knows it if he doth not finde them In States that have no occasions it were good there were no such men or if there be that they would not grow ambitious The soile which brings forth such trees if it have not roome wherein they may spread abroad their branches must seek and get some so must leave a way open for violence and ●ury to vent it selfe at For if they finde no way they will make one and there is a great deale of difference between a way rent open by ambition and one framed with prudency If a hammer worketh out a doore way or passage in a wall it doth it with designe and intent A piece of Ordnance shakes and oftentimes throwes the Wall downe but will never make a regular overture Nature spake to Scipio Nasica obscurelv It shewed him that it was not good to destroy Carthage hee understood the thing but not the sense and meaning