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A77397 Anabaptism, the true fountaine of Independency, Brownisme, [double brace] Antinomy, Familisme, and the most of the other errours, which for the time doe trouble the Church of England, unsealed. Also the questions of pædobaptisme and dipping handled from Scripture. In a second part of the Disswasive from the errors of the time. / By Robert Baillie minister at Glasgow. Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662.; Baillie, Robert, 1599-1662. Dissuasive from the errours of the time. 1647 (1647) Wing B452A; Thomason E369_9; ESTC R38567 187,930 235

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declared his information thereof by God ten days before but the matter concerning his own person he had hitherto been silent yet all now being made publick by the mouth of another Prophet The splendour of Becolds Court he did submit himself to the will of God No minute of time was delayed the twelve Princes were cashiered the Catholick Monarch did choose his Chancellor Treasurer Secretary and other Officers of State and Court a fair high throne was set up in the Market-place and covered all over with cloth of gold Becold made for himself being a Taylor by his Trade very royall suits of most gorgeous apparell of the Priests vestments which he had robbed in the Cathedrall a stately Crown Scepter and Sword were prepared for him his Courtiers were all put in most sumptuous raiment no greater magnificence was to be seen at any Princes Court in the world QQ Thus Becold attained the top of his ambition and lust but the great skill was how to keep what was gotten for this end twenty eight Apostles were sent abroad to preach over the world obedience to the King of Munster the new Jerusalem but here was the misluck all of them but one who returned with the tidings were killed in the places where first they offered to preach His barbarous cruelty and hypocrisie In the mean time the Town begun to be pinched with famine one of the Kings Wives being delated for a word of compassion upon the starving multitude was brought forth to the Market-place and by Becolds own hand had her head struck off RR All the rest of his wives did sing a Psalm to God for this so excellent an act of Justice the King himself led all the fourteen in a dance through the streets of the Town it were long to recite all the acts of their villanous hypocrisie at last the patience of God broke out upon them One of the Kings Secretaries undertook to bring into the Town a supply of men and victuals when he was gone His unhappy end his way was straight to the Enemy he guided his Treason so cunningly that on a certain night he brought a party within the Town many were put to the edge of the sword the King and the principall mis-leaders of the people were taken alive the King was brought to acknowledge the most of his Errors SS he offered upon condition of his life to make all the Anabaptists in Holland Freezland and England to be quiet and give over their way but these vain promises were not trusted and so after some cruell torture he and Knipperdolling were killed and hung up in a cage of Iron upon the highest pinacle of the Cathedrall Steeple TT That same very year 1535. Amsterdam in hazard to be a second Munster the Anabaptists had a mighty design upon Amsterdam and very narrowly did misse of their intention to surprise that City to be a seat of as glorious a Kingdom as had been at Munster but God assisted the Citizens to prevent such a mischief albeit not without great losse for some hundreds were killed on both sides in these bloody uproars VV A woman Messias All this did not teach the Anabaptists wisdom still they did expect a new Jerusalem and an earthly Kingdom their Prophets filled the fancies of their people with this notion more then any other One of their women at Apezell in Suitzerland gave her self out for the Queen of the world and Messias for all women sending out her twelve she-Apostles for their conversion to her way XX I read also after the death of Becold of a second King in Vtrick who was no lesse infamous for crimes then his predecessors by open robberies he became rich with his own hands he kil'd his poor wife that he might marry her daughter YY Division and schismes were the Anabaptists ruine However the grievous absurdities of the Anabaptists both in their doctrine and practice as also the evident judgements which God man did pour upon them the very great industry which all the great and heroick Divines of that happy time of Reformation did use to reclaim them much retarded their progresse yet it is marvellous to consider their incredible increase in many parts of Germany and elswhere till God of his mercy did divide them among themselves and confound their Languages their divisions and subdivisions was that which most of all did weaken them and stop their course The difference betwixt the Monasterians and Battenburgicks After the taking of Munster one John Battenburg a bastard of a good Family born at Leyden made himself head of a strong party and pretended a Divine mission to propagate that earthly Kingdom ZZ which by the fatall calamity of his Townsman Becold and his friends at Munster had been a little interrupted betwixt the followers of this Battenburg and the remainder of the Monasterian Anabaptists arose the first discord Their sufferings and disappointments made them more sober and wary then the zeal of Battenburg could approve of for he professed that since the Gospel preached by Becold had been rejected by the world the time of mercy was now expired and nothing but wrath remained So that his commission from God was to kill all the world only those who did yeeld to his way and were rebaptized he might admit to be slaves as Israel did the Gibeonites AAA Upon those grounds his followers where ever they durst be bold did kill all whom they met with in the fields did rob and steal what ever came to their hand in Country villages broke in upon sleeping people pulled sundry out of their beds drowned them in the first waters or hanged them upon the first trees BBB They of Munster did not approve of all these practises therefore they were condemned as coldrife lukewarm hinderers of the Kingdom of Christ CCC This discord lasted for divers years till the Monasterians expired and the Battenburgicks were also rooted out as Robbers and murderers by the sword of the Magistrate The second division was greater one Melchior Hophman a Skinner or Glover in Suabland before the Tragedy of Munster The sect of the Hophmanists was a prime Leader of the Anabaptists In Strasburg about the year 1529 he seduced many he leaned much upon Enthusiasms and dreams DDD he fancied that Strasburg was appointed of God to be the new Jerusalem that himself and some others were quickly to get from heaven an extraordinary calling to an Apostleship EEE that so from that Town they might preach the Gospel to all the world which they were assured would in a short time be subdued to Christ by the power of the Spirit in their Ministery without any outward force FFF The violent tumults of Munster Hophman did not approve these were the inventions of his Scholar Mathie of Harleim which he did always mislike GGG albeit whilst that Doctrine of his scholar did prosper in Munster he durst not much contradict it but so soon as
the prophecying and questioning of private men in the face of the Church Unto their new gathered Churches of rebaptized and dipped Saints they did ascribe very ample priviledges for first they gave to every one of them a power of questioning in publick before the whole Congregation any part of their Preachers Doctrine N Secondly to every one of their members they gave a power of publick preaching O Women preachers are from them This liberty they gave no lesse to women then men for they had among them not only preaching and prophecying women but also some who took so much upon them as to professe themselves to be the Christ and Messias to all of their own sexe P Thirdly Their Pastors must renounce all former ordination take their full call of new must come from the hands of their people to their particular Churches they gave power of electing and ordaining such of their own Prophets whom they thought fittest to be Pastors to the rest whoever was not elected and ordained whoever had not their full calling from the people alone and did not renounce what ever ordination they had from any other to them were no Pastors at all Upon this ground among others they refused to hear any of the Ministers of the reformed Churches because they did not renounce their former ordination and calling to the Ministery that they might take it again from the hands of their new gathered and separate Congregations Q They required no letters in their Preachers Fourthly in their Pastors they required no secular learning R yea to them all secular learning was abominable they did burn all books but the Bible as impediments and hurtfull instruments to the Ministery of the Gospel S Fiftly they required their illiterate Pastors to work with their own hands for their livings T Merchandize or any other Calling wherein there was no personall and handy labour to them was unlawfull V Sixtly they cried down all tythes X The crying down of tythes and all set stipends is from them yea all set stipends for any Church Officer Y But it would be considered that they did avow it was as unlawfull to pay any set rent or yearly duty to any Landlord as a stipend to a Minister Z Seventhly Independency of congregations and the peoples power in Church censures is their invention unto their single Congregations they gave a supreme and independent power to judge in all Ecclesiasticall causes not only judicially to pronounce all questions about their Pastors Doctrine but also to proceed to the highest censure of excommunication as well against their Pastors as others when they found cause AA Their excommunications of one another were so frequent and for so light causes The Seekers who deny all Churches are their disciples that sundry of them fell to the opinion and practice of those whom we call Seekers they served God single and alone without the society of any Church finding no Churches on earth with whom they could agree BB The Anabaptists usurpation upon the authority of the Church did quickly lead them to the same practice upon the State as they took upon them to deprive their Pastors and exempt themselves from all Ecclesiastick jurisdiction of Church Synods so likewise they broke in peeces the yoke of all civill subjection to Magistrates Princes Parliaments or any temporall judicatories At first they denied the power of the Magistrate in matters of Religion alone First they cried down the Magistrates power in matters of Religion asserting a liberty only for their conscience that it might be free from the controll of all superiour power they esteemed every Law of the Magistrate in matters of Religion to be unlawfull Next in all matters even civill and the smallest penalty to be a Mosaicall compulsion of the conscience and a true persecution CC But forthwith they went on to deny the Magistrates power absolutely in all things whether Ecclesiastick or civill crying down his very calling and office how well so ever regulate as an unjust tyranny Together with the Magistrate they condemne all Judicatories all wars Yet they took to themselves an absolute civill power first over all them in their own Churches all defence all oathes DD For all this they permitted not that sword which they had stricken out of the hand of others to ly long upon the ground but immediately they plucked it up themselves At first they exercised their usurped Magistracy only upon the persons within their own Congregations judging all their causes as well Civill as Ecclesiastick proceeding herein to capitall sentences and executions as they found the crimes of their members to require EE Next over all Princes and people in the whole world This exercise of justice was so agreeable to their humour that quickly they thought meet to extend it much beyond the limits of their own Congregations they did anon proclaim their right not only to deny but to take away with their sword all the Princes and Magistrates of the earth as Tyrants FF And because these few persons who were Magistrates had not blood enough to quench the thirst of that cruell spirit which led them they went one step further proclaiming a Commission they had from heaven to kill not only all the Magistrates but also all the wicked people of the whole earth GG And how many Nations and Languages came within this compasse you may judge by the narrow circle within which they inclosed all the godly no more were Saints and to be saved then joyned to their Churches and received their Anabaptisme all the rest to them were wicked and to be cut off HH The were strong millenaries To this very dangerous practice they were led by another principle Muncer among his other Enthusiasms did bring forth to his followers the dream of Christs visible and ovtward Kingdome upon earth II confirming it by the same Scriptures which our late Chiliasts bring for the same fancy albeit a little refined Upon this ground he built many of his grossest practices for he gave out that then the time of that kingdome was come KK that the Saints the members of the Anabaptistick Churches were the members thereof that it was the will of God they should take and kill all who were opposite thereto that they had a just right to enter in possession of the spoyl of Christs Enemies and to enjoy all their lands and goods as the Israelites did those of the cursed Canaanites LL They made adulteries and murders lawfull To these dreams of Muncer John Becold and his fellow Prophets at Munster made some Additions That in this visible kingdome there behoved to be a King over the Saints MM That this King was to rule according to the revelations of the Spirit That all disobedience to his voyce was to be vindicate by present death NN Among the rest of King Becolds commands this was one That the Polygamy of the old Testament should be renewed
that every man might marry so many wives as he pleased OO Also the Law of Divorce was brought back giving leave to a man upon his meer will without any fault alledged and without the cognizance of any Judge to put away his wife PP yea to kill any of his wives whether publickly as himself did in the open Market place QQ or privately as their next King did in a wood of Freezland RR This also was a Law of that Kingdom Robberies also that beside the falling upon all the goods of all the wicked world as a most lawfull spoyl there behoved to be a liberty to make use of all that belonged to any of the Saints That all things among them behoved to be common SS yet so that the King and his Courtiers might lawfully live in plenty while all the other Saints in that their new Jerusalem were starving with excessive penury TT It is visible whither Satan intends to lead proud hypocrites Their hypocrisie ended in the open practice of crimes extremely contrary to their professions these men who in their own eyes were so holy Saints as they behoved in the tendernesse of their conscience to separate from the best reformed Churches these men who talked of nothing but mortification of the flesh who counted it unlawfull to defend their life by the sword or to exercise the meanest Magistracy or to have any propriety in the smallest portion of goods or to know their own wives after they were conceived VV in a short time they came to preach and practice as very lawfull and warrantable to make themselves absolute Kings and Monarchs of the whole earth to live and die in as many adulteries and incests as they pleased in as great plenty of wealth as by any secret theft or open robbery they were able to catch Their abominable unclearnesse It could hardly be imagined that the Devil himself had been able to lead any reasonable creatures into so grievous errors did we not know to how much grosser these same horrible hypocrites who upon the profession of their own holiness refused cōmunion with all other men had been led away by that evill spirit divers of them not being content with the adulteries of Polygamy have loosed the bonds of all matrimony yea of all naturall relations XX telling us as in the former Chapter was remarked that among the Saints there ought to be no difference of husband and wife Father and daughter brother and sister that such differences were only for imperfect worldlings So soon as a woman turned Anabaptist they made her company with her own husband unlawfull but with all men of her own Religion lawfull upon divers wicked grounds XX 2 Farther that the shame which nature has imprinted in the heart of the most barbarous Pagans to cover their nakednesse must be cast away YY and thereafter that all kinde of incestuous commixtions are not only lawfull but also that they are the very acts of holinesse and mortification ZZ These be the profound mysteries which the Anabaptists have brought into the world this is the fruit of their quatriduall fastings of their extatick prayers of their heavenly raptures and revelations They deny both old and new Testament These might have seemed the very quintessence of all imaginable absurdities if the enemy of all truth had not given us in the same miserable hypocrites a further experiment of his skill in seducing they tell us therefore yet of rarer novelties of new more excellent lights which they have brought out of heaven AAA Having cast away first the old Testament as removed by the Gospel and then the Gospel it self as a shadow put away by the greater light of their new Prophets BBB these impediments of holy Scripture being fully removed the new perfect Doctrine which they bring us is first that there is not any created spirit They deny angels and devils and souls that Angels and Devils are not substances but meer qualities CCC that the spirits of men are but terrestriall vapour like the life of beasts perishing with the body DDD They deny heaven and hell eternall life Secondly that there is no such thing as heaven or hell as life or death eternall EEE that all the resurrection and glory to be expected are in this life FFF Thirdly They cast away all the ordinances of God that the greatest happinesse possible is to cast away and give over all such services as the Scripture prescribes to put away Baptisme the Lords Supper and Preaching of the word GGG to follow the directions of the new great Prophet David George Fourthly that this David George was the only spirituall Christ David George to them was spirituall Christ much more excellent then Christ crucified that Jesus and his Apostles and all their Doctrine were but carnall HHH that David George was to judge the world III that the irremissible transgression was only a wrong against him that whoever would maintain Jesus Christ to be equall with him or the Gospel of the Apostles to be like unto his Doctrine did sin against the holy Ghost and was certainly damned KKK The absurdities of the worst Hereticks of old the calumnies invented by Pagans against the ancient Christians were nothing so horrible though all had been true as these Doctrines and practises whereof the unquestionable testimonies of grave Writers make many of the old Anabaptists most certainly guilty But that which herein I most admire is Many people were ready to seal with their bloud all these abominations that ever poore people could be brought to beleeve so firmly the former absurdities as to suffer most willingly all extremities and exceeding chearfully to offer their very life for the worst of them LLL so long as their Master David did require such seals and testimonies to his Doctrine Thereafter indeed he changed that principle of suffering for the truth and permitted his followers not only to dissemble their own Religion but also to joyn without any scruple in any profession in any religious exercise of any people among whom they lived for he taught them that God was content with the heart alone and gave liberty for all men to imploy their body and the whole outward man in the service of the falsest Religion rather then he should suffer the smallest inconvenience The monster David George did live and die in plenty and peace The other object of my admiration is the infinite patience of God who suffered the Father of such monsters to lead his life in ease and security to go on in peace and plenty with a great shew both of Religion and vertue and the good opinion of his neighbours to his old age and dying day MMM Such snares does the Lord in his wisdome rain down on the wicked world that they who never loved the truth may be intangled irrecoverably in the bonds of error The best of the Anabaptists have very grosse errours I grant many of the