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A30967 A necessary vindication of the doctrine of predestination, formerly asserted together with a full abstersion of all calumnies, cast upon the late correptory correction ... / by William Barlee ... Barlee, William. 1658 (1658) Wing B818; ESTC R2234 208,740 246

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Christian Church First He must be stiled the Poeticall old man Answ And yet First He shews not wherein his fictions do lye unlesse it were for making of observations upon he knows not what manuscript of pag. 6. his which yet (b) chap. 3. 5 he is forced to confesse was a Copy of his private manuscript and when he hath not after all his Prevarications about this businesse been able to shew how or by whom or why any should have wronged his private Manuscripts Secondly If Mr. Whit-field yet retain as he doth any true skill in any Good Poetry he should for that not have Despised him but have honoured him the more seeing his own Learning is mainly Oratoriall and Poeticall Of which kind of Learning if he be once stripped he will be found much more to supplere locum Idiotae than most of his Neighbours so shamefully for want of Learning reviled by him Secondly (c) Ibid p. 6. He runs parallel with Don Quixot who valiantly confuted the Barbers Bason under the notion of an Helmet Answ First As witty a one as our Great wit is taken to be in multiplying of jests yet I find that to help himself out he is forced to use Repetition for fear his stock should faile him of the same merry jiggs with which he is much pleased and hopes to pleasure as vaine men as him●elf This is now at lea●● the second Time and that upon one and the same occasion that I have met with Epist secunda vel tertia this Toyish phancy of his Secondly If there were any fighting with a Barbers Bason then he himself as valiant a man as Mr. T. P. is was the Barber and the Wearer of the Bason instead of a Helmet for after many wranglings about his Uncorrect Copy or if you will foul Bason I find him (d) Chap. 3. p. 58. to allow of my saying when he saith that from Chap. 3. p. 32. unto the very end which is above halfe my Book my Book is almost verbatim the very same with my first renounced papers Thirdly He is ambitious to have it thought that I am altogether such an one as himself Answ First Ibid. p. 6. Questionlesse there is no such matter I am confident he would not for a thousand worlds be like him in Opinions or Conditions Secondly I beseech God it may be Mr. T. P's happinesse to obtain Repentance unto life that he may be truly Ambitious to be so good a man as good Mr. Whit-field hath long to all that know him b●en known to be Fourthly speaking of the Presbyterians in England who are farr enough from being half w●tted Had I been wi●●ing to charge them it should have been with greater crimes Answ First He meanes as is plaine by what he exprest concerning them elsewhere (f) Philanthropy Chap. 4. p. 10. that he takes them to me more Knaves then Fooles Second●y But what higher Crimes than that of Blasphemy against God doth he think himself able to prove aga●nst them Is it of their maintaining a Lawfulnesse as the case may be to excommunicate Kings a more heinous Crime in his Judgment then the former Sure it cannot be in the Judgment of those who think they must honor God first then the King next Fifthly He suspects him to be the Reverend Divine whom Mr. Barlee quotes without a name to put colour upon that matchlesse fiction mentioned by him Chap. 3. §. 21. First Neither as hath been shewed is that a Fiction and then lesse a Matchlesse one Secondly Nor if it were was he at all the Coiner or so much as the Reporter of it Sixthly I once took off the veile from off his eyes and made him see very cleerly that upright Job was not a Jew Answ It were indeed a great wonder if a man whose Light is Darknesse in most Divine matters should yet be able to enlighten him who before he had so much as a head or eye in it had been under God instrumentall in the Enlightning of many who sate in Darknesse and in the shadow of death Secondly If Mr. Whit-field at any time had maintained Job to have been of the Nation of the Jews he mig●t in divers places on Job have quoted the Chaldee Paraphrase for it * As also the Arabick in the very close of the whole Wallaeus contra Corvin Job omnium scriptorum consensu ex Arahami posteris suit oriundus qui nepotes suos vivus instituit Gen. 18. 19. Cui se Deus ipse non occul●é sed ut Prophetae extraordinariâ apertâ apparitione revelavit antequam Israelitae in terra Canaan à Reliquis nationibus fuerunt separati Edit in quarto p. 174. 175. Thirdly but I am assured from Mr. Wh●t field himself that the disputes betwixt them were not at all Genealogical but purely Theological for Mr. Peirce maintaining the salvation of such as Socrates Plato Aristides c. amongst the others Mr. T. P. instanced in Job as being saved without the Pale of the Church Mr. Whit-field replied to him though Job might not be of the Jewish Nation he was yet of the true Religion of the Religion of the then Jews And pray now in the Judgment of all the Christian Church who sees best whether Mr. Whit-field or Mr. Pierce Seventhly Chap. 3. p. 31. speaking of him again he saith it is not hard to conjecture why the mentioning of his name was left out in my frontispiece Answ First If I may lawfully u●e his Phrase somewhere he hath as bad Luck as ever any Hariolator had for it was against my liking that any of the Divines names should be so posted up as they are in the frontispiece of my Book Secondly If therein those who did it used any discretion I suppose they did not omitt his name because of the slightnesse of it as Mr. T. P. would seeme to imply but because Mr. Whit-field spake to a Manuscript not extant in print and so spake not in Commendation of the Book which I published CHAP. I. § I. p. 2. I am well assured by Intelligent and practicall persons that very few will buy his book who are not prodigall of their money and that fewer will read it who are not prodigall of their time Answ First If he did but believe his own Intelligencers why doth he take so much paines in answering of a thing so certainly in the world to be so much neglected Secondly I will not tell the world how easy it is with him to gaine the credit of being practicall and Intelligent nor what those termes according to his practise do signifie in his practicall Schoole but I am able enough to prove what false Prophets they have proved to him for whatsoever become of the multitude of the buyers of my Book in an age excessively covetous and very little bookish I am sure it hath met with very many as well benevolent as malevolent Readers and of the first sort some of the