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A75768 Ishmael, and his mother, cast out into the wilderness, amongst the wild beasts of the same nature: or, a reply to a book entitulled, The scriptures proved to be the word of God, put forth by one of Ishmaels children, who calls himself a minister of the Gospel, and a pastor of S. Austins and Savours parish in Norwich; but is clearly made manifest by the light of God in his servants, to be a scoffer, and an enemy to the Gospel, which the saints of God are ministers of, and sufferers for, by such as hee is, who Ishmael-like, hath laid his folly open, and is discovered to the faithful, who are of Abraham, and of the seed of promise. Also, a cleer distinction between the minsters of Christ, who are of the seed of Abraham, and the priests of this generation, who are of Ishmaels root; who with the truth are plainly made manifest, by the light of Christ in us, who for the testimony of God do suffer by the sons of Hagar, and this generation of priests in Notwich [sic]: ... / Given forth from the spirit of the Lord in us that do suffer in the goal of Norwich for the truths sake, ... Christopher Atkinson, George Whitehead, Iames Lancaster, Thomas Simonds. Atkinson, Christopher. 1655 (1655) Wing A4127; Thomason E830_3; ESTC R207430 13,494 15

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had a being but the works of the five first dayes Creation are mentioned in Scripture but man was not made till the sixt day therefore they must needs be the word of God Ans Here thou blind Beast who art ignorant of God who makes antiquity as thou calls it the perfect knowledg of God and sayes that man could not declare of things before ever he had a being and so would make people believe that the Scripture reveal God thou blind Beast whether was man or the Scriptures first and whether did God make himself manifest unto and thou that sayest that the Scripture reveal God thou art a lyar for God revealed himself to Moses before the Scripture was written and Moses who was the first pen-man of the Scripture was 14 Generations after the fall and yet he wrote of things before the fall was and thy father Cain was before Moses was and yet he knew no Scripture and thou that would make the Letter the light and way of knowing God art not so much as a Minister of the Letter and here thou art made manifest to be in the fall in the death which past over all men before Moses was and are not come to see the first dayes work to see light divided from darkness and here let all the Prophets and holy men of God judge thee with the Light from which thou art erred for they wrote of Christ and saw his day many Generations before he came in the flesh and here thy antiquity and thy reasons and the three persons thou dreams of which would devide out of one like a conjurer are all denied and thou shut up with them in perpetuall darkness for the Lake and pit for thou hast no Scripture that mentious such things Priest And where thou art telling that the Scripture converts the Soul and works Grace and the opening thereof make hearts to tremble and sayes that Scriptures discovers mens thoughts and makes Laws for them Ans Here thou hast made thy self manifest where did ever any of the holy men of God say that the Scripture converts the Soul or make Laws for mens thoughts and what is that which opens the Scripture or where is it if the bare Letter convert the Souls here thou Priest of Baal for that is thy name thy lyes are made manifest and deceits laid open to the Children of the Light and art seen with the light from which the Scripture was spoken Priest Again thou sayest the Scripture speaks to all men alike but thus do not the word of man therefore thou sayest they are the word of God Ans But thou thy self and thy generation are perverters of the Scripture and are respectors of persons for you are called of men Master stands praying in the Synagogues has the chiefest places in the assemblies and the greeting in the Markets and are pleading for cap and knee and sayes we do not reverence Magistrates because we do not put off our hats and bend our knees as thou and the rest of thy generation of Hypocrites do who have mens persons in admiration because of advantage Iude. 16. and this which you calls the word speaks not to all men alike for wo is pronounced in it to such as thou art who art found in the steps of the false Prophets and Scribes and Pharises and goes in the way of Cain to envie and after the error of Balaam for gifts and rewards which wo was never pronounced to the righteous and wo unto thee thou lyar who art a wrester of Scripture to thy own destruction and art found with so many Lyes as thou hast here uttered Priest In another place thou sayest no Creature Angels men or Devils if all were put together in one could ever Diclare before-hand what paarticular person should be borne and what should be their names in so many thousands yeers before their birth Ans Here thou art taken with another lye with which thou hast stuffed up this thy confused Book for both by Angels and Men was Iesus Christ the Son of-God prophesied of Moses who was many years before Christ came in the flesh prophesied of Christ and said like unto me wil God raise up a Prophet him shall the people hear Mat. 1.17 see if thou can number the year of all these generations which prophesied of Christ and when Christ came he saith before Abraham was I am thus art thou-known and comprehended with the truth which all thy fathers and generations past persecuted so be ashamed and stop thoy mouth for evere Priest In that thou calls thy two propositions 1. thou sayest the Scriptures ar the means by which faith is wrought and to prove that by thou brings Rom. 10.17 Ans Shame cover thy face thou full of rottenness and filthy dreames where did thou ever read in Scripture that it is the means whereby faith is wrought when that Scripture saith faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word here thou art deafe and never heard the word and thy faith and word is without but the word of faith which we preach is nigh in the heart and mouth Rom. 10.8 therefore search thou the Scriptures with the Saduces who knew not Christ for in them thou and thy generation thinks to have eternall life but ye will not come unto Christ that ye may have life Iohn 5.38 39 40. Priest Again thou sayest that the Scripture which thou calls the word is an everlasting rule so long as we live on earth Ans Thou blinde sot see thy confusion can that Letter be everlasting while we live upon earth here thou hast shewed thy reason where it is that they that are not stark blind may see thee thy reason and thy foundation to be in the mire and dirt and may see thee to be a senceless naturall bruit Beast who with thy lyes art made to be taken and destroyed 2 Pet. 2.12 Priest And again thou sayest the most emminent believer sin in many things An. Here is the end of thy teaching here is thy rule here is thy foundation and here is thy obedience and here is thy fruites and here is thy service who commits sin and a Servant to Sin and free from righteousness Iohn 8.24 Rom. 16.20 Oh thou blasphemer and slanderer of the just when wilt thou cease from thy Lyes and blasphemy where dost or canst thou prove such a Scripture as the most emmment believer Sin in any things when the Scripture saith he that believeth is born of God and he that is bore of God sinneth not for whosoever sinneth hath not seen him neither known him and he that committeth sin is of the Devill and there 's thy condition and he is thy Father who is the father of all lyars as thou art i Iohn 3.3 4 5 6 7 8. Priest And to conclude thy filthy rotten stuff thou sayest they that make not the word of God the rule for their actions are led either by their own fancies or the Devils temptations or both Asn Thee Priest Townsend art here laid open and thou art uncovered and here thou art found to be a denyer of the word and rule and foundation and thou art led by thy dreames and fancies and thy foundation is in the dust and thou art reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for everlasting fire and here thou in all these thy lyes art shut out from God and all the Children of God among the doggs and Sorcerers and the Lake is thy portion which is the portion of all lyars Iude. 6 7 8. thus have we returned a full answer unto thy senseless stuff and in plainness have we dealt with thee and have not flatterd thee at all there cal it not railing least thou violate the Scriptures so with the word of truth thou art tryed and comprehended and us shalt thou witness eternally when the book of Conscience comes to be opened and thou judged out of it so we remain Sufferers for the truth and witnesses against thee and thy generation Named according to the flesh Christopher Atkinson Iames Lancaster George VVhitehead Thomas Simonds Several words spoken by this said Priest Townsend before he sent these Propositions THE 16. day of the 11. month this Priest Townsend came to this Prison of Norwich and said that sprinkling of Infants was the seal of the Covenant and that it was an ordinance of Christ and that it was to the seed of believers and he sprinckled a womans Child in this prison aforesaid who was imprisoned for whoredome and for sprincling of it he took twelve pence and when he was charged with it he denyed it and then it being laid further to his charge he then could not deny it and he said he took it not for sprinckling of the Child but for coming to this prison and he said the Labourer is worthy of his hire and he said that Paul was not sent to baptize but to preach but he said hee was sent both to baptize and to preach and that he had a Commssion for both and he said we were of the Devills confederates and he said the Devil spoke in Christopher Atkinson and he said the Lord rebule thee Satan and he said the Bible is the word of God and he called Christopher Atkinson sauce-box and he said that we would take the Ministers maintenance away that they might go begging from dore to dore and he said he would send four or five propositions within a fortnight and afterward he said he would send them within a month and he said that Paul had good victuals and strong beere at one mans house and he said we might reverence Magistrates in daffing the hat and having the heads uncovered and in bowing and he said that he that prayes or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head and he being demanded why the Priest had some of them two caps on when they pray he said because of infirmities of their bodies and he said that he would have sent propositions before now but that he said he thought we would send them to be printed therefore he said he would be cautious and wary in writing them he said that God recorded the Devills words These words were spoken by this said Sampson Townsend who calls himself a Minister of the Gospell and a Pastor FINIS