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A65879 The principal controversies between the litteral presbyters of the Kirk of Scotland, and the illuminated members of the Church of Christ, called Quakers· Truly collected, stated and opened, in a particular reply (herein specified) for general information and undeceiving the deceived. By an earnest contender for the most holy faith, which was once delivered to the saints. G. W. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1672 (1672) Wing W1947; ESTC R217169 70,788 112

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