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A26962 Naked popery, or, The naked falshood of a book called The Catholick naked truth, or, The Puritan convert to apostolical Christianity, written by W.H. opening their fundamental errour of unwritten tradition, and their unjust description of the Puritans, the prelatical Protestant, and the papist, and their differences, and better acquainting the ignorant of the same difference, especially what a Puritan and what a papist is / by Richard Baxter ... Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1677 (1677) Wing B1315; ESTC R13884 120,987 206

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be judged immutable as made by Divine Inspiration yet the Pope of Rome who though of unequal merits holdeth the place of the Eternal King and the Maker of all Things and all Laws on Earth may abrogate these Decrees when they are abused XXI By the same pretended Power he changeth Christs own Instituted Sacrament even in the substance of it denying all the Laity the Cup while they condemn all that will not believe that the Wine is turned into his very Blood And he that eateth not the Flesh of Christ and drinketh not his Blood hath not Life which they expound of the Sacrament Christ said when he had given them the Cup Drink yes all of it Mat. 26. 27. And Paul delivereth it to the Laity from the Lord 1 Cor. 11. 23. 25. 28. This do ye as oft as ye drink it in remembrance of me And as oft as ye eat this Bread and drink this Cup ye shew the Lords death till he come Let a man examine himself and so let him eat of this Bread and drink of this Cup 1 Cor. 10. 21. Ye cannot drink the Cup of the Lord and the Cup of Devils is given to the Laity as a reason against their Idol Communion In relation to the Sacrament it 's said that all were made to drink into one Spirit The reception of the Spirit being likened to that drinking And if the Pope may abrogate one half the Sacrament why not theother XXII The Pope declareth all the World to be damned except his own Subjects See the foresaid first Canon of Innocents Laterane Council Leo 10. Abrog Pragm Sanct. Bul. in the 17. General Council at Laterane saith And seeing it is of necessity to salvation that all the faithful of Christ be subject to the Pope of Rome as we are taught by the Testimony of Divine Scripture and of the holy Fathers and it is declared in the constitution of Pope Boniface the 7. c. Pope Pius 2. was converted from the supremacie of Councils by this Doctrine of a Cardinal which he approveth or by the Popedom Bul. Retract in Bin. Vol. 4. p. 514. I came to the Fountain of truth which the holy Doctors both Greek and Latine shew who with one Voice say that he cannot be saved that holdeth not the Unity of the holy Church of Rome and that all those Virtues are maimed to him that refuseth to obey the Pope of Rome though he lye in Sackcloth and Ashes and fast and pray both Day and Night and seem in the rest or other things to fulfil the Law of God Bellarmine saith de Eccles l. 3. c. 5. that No man though he would can be subject to Christ that is not subject to the Pope And therefore he saith that our Baptism implicitely subjecteth us to the Pope or we are so baptized to him And saith Gonzal Rodericus in Godignus de rebus Abassin l. 2. c. 18. p. 323. to the Emperours Mother I denyed that any one is subject to Christ that is not subject to his Vicar But said the old Woman to him Neither I nor mine do deny obedience to S. Peter We are in the same Faith now that we were in from the beginning If that was not the right why was there no one found in so many Ages and Generations that would warn us of our Errour See here what Tradition is and whether the Papal Church and Charge was Universal The Jesuite answered The Pope of Rome who is Pastor of the whole Church of Christ could not in the years that are by-past send Teachers into Abassia because the Mahometans incompassed all and had left no passage to them but now the Maritime way to Aethiopia is open they can do that which they could not do before So that it seemeth 1. Christ hath made the Pope Governour of Countries that he cannot send to and set the poor man an impossible task 2. He hath made it necessary to salvation to whole Kingdoms to believe in a Pope that they could never hear from nor whether there were such a Man or City in the world 3. Or else their Faith groweth new as the Sea passage is open And wo to them if their new acquaintance with the Pope make all all all his Laws necessary to them which they might have been saved without before How much happier were they when they never heard of his Name See here all you Jesuites one old Woman is able unanswerably to confute you all if she stand but on equal ground with you and be not under your power inquisition or fear XXIII In so doing the Pope damneth and unchurcheth about two or three parts of the Christians upon earth and so would destroy the Body Politick of Christ For the Body is rather to be denominated from the greater part than from the less Else why do Votes in General Councils go for the sense of the Church And I have shewed before that the Abassines Copties in Egypt Syrians Armenians Georgians Greeks Moscovites Protestants and the rest are far more two or three to one than all the Papists in the World Much more when Mahometanism had not drowned so many Countries that were of the Greek Profession was it so And how the Saviour of the World will take it for this Usurper to rob him of the most of his Flock and damn most of his Church and corrupt the rest consider and judge XXIV By so doing the Pope sets a Sect or small divided Parcel of the Church and calleth it the whole Church of Christ Even as some Anabaptists I hope not many and other Sects appropriate Christianity or true Church-Communion to themselves and say We are all the Church so doth the Pope His Universal Church is too small for any understanding Christian to own as such and to be a Member of as such XXV The Pope damneth not only two or three parts of the Christian World but also his own Representative Body or Church called Papists such an Abaddon is he Proved The General Councils at Constance and Basil to say nothing of many others were the Representative Church of the Papists and took it to be de fide that a Council was above the Pope But the Pope hath damned them for this as an error and for their deposing Popes See Concil Later sub Jul. 2. and sub Leone 10. Concil Florent Review the fore-cited Speeches of Cajetan and Pighius against them Many more Councils have they condemned XXVI Yea Popes have damned Popes also and it is most to be feared lest they damn themselves more than others I need not tell of Marcellinus nor of Honorius condemned for an Heretick by divers Popes nor repeat the Schismes and Damnations of each other therein nor the Story of Sergius and Formosus and Stephen c. nor their forementioned wickedness Watson in his Quodlibets tells you of Bellarmines Sentence against Pope Sixtus Quintus Conceptis verbis quantum capio quantum sapio quantum intelligo Dominus noster Papa descendit
Answ 1. Here you shew what things they be that you turn Papist for Is not eating Flesh on Frydays Lent or Vigils a worthy matter to make another Religion of or to prove men to be of differing Churches 2. I told you before that the Puritans judgment is as Paul's that such things should be left indifferent or at least make no breach among us by our judging or despising one another And that neither the Pope nor any men on Earth have Authority to make Universal Laws for them to all the Christian World and that there is no true Tradition of Apostolical Institution of them But yet that such Fasts and Feasts as are appointed by true Authority of Prince or Pastors not against the Laws of God and such as shall be proved to be instituted by the Apostles they will observe 3. But the poor Puritan is indeed in hard Circumstances were there no life after this Some of them have no Flesh to eat either on Frydays or any day in the Week but live thankfully upon Bread and Milk and some such things Fish they would gladly eat if they could get it There are now among them such as with many Children have for a long time lived almost only on brown Rye-bread and Water Many of them take it for a sufficient quantity to eat one temperate Meal a day though they are in no want and the Papist that forbeareth Flesh and eateth better than the Puritan feasteth with or that fasteth with one Meal a day which is many Puritans fullest Dyet doth condemn the poor Puritan as an Heretick and perhaps burn him at a Stake or cast him into the Inquisition for not Fasting Poor John Calvin did eat but one small Meal a day and the Papist who fast much at the rate as Calvin feasted record him for a gluttonous person And so did the Pharisees by Christ and his Disciples why do not thy Disciples fast c. II. Your second Instance is The Prelatick Protestant wonders the Puritan should scruple adorning the Communion Table with two Wax Tapers c. Ans The former Answer serveth to this Hear O ye Puritans wherein the Roman Religion doth surpass yours Their Altars have lighted Tapers on Do you not deserve to be burnt your selves if you will not burn Candles on your Altars Yea the Pope who hath power to set up and take down Emperours and Kings being not only the King of Rome but the Monarch of the whole World doth appoint these Lights as a Professing sign before God and Man that he is of that Church which in the Primitive Times for fear of Persecution served God by Candle-light in Dens and Caves And is not this to prove the immutability of their Church that vary not in a Circumstance from the Apostolioal Institution Doth his domineering over Kings and Nations and the Hosts of Great Princes Cardinals Prelates Abbots Clergy Regulars Seculars that obey him shew also that he is of that old Candle-lighted Church But while you seem still to plead Apostolical Tradition for all these Great Parts of your Religion tell the poor Puritan whether it was by Prophesie or how else that the Apostles delivered to the Church the use of these Lighted Tapers in commemoration of that which was done in Dens long after the death of these Apostles I doubt rather the Pope doth by this practice condemn himself and sets up these Lights to shew the World how much he and his Church are changed since those forementioned days III. You next say The Prelatick Protestant wonders what hurt the Puritan can see in making the sign of that on the forehead of a new baptized Infant yet smiles at a Papist when he makes it on himself or his Victuals c. Ans None of us are ashamed of the Cross of Christ nor loth to profess this as openly as you But if we do it by Word by Writing by Obeying or by Suffering we are of another Religion from you it seems by you unless we will do it also by crossing The Jews were the Cross-makers And there are now so many Cross-makers in the World whose Trade we like not that we are not forward to set up their sign at our doors But yet there are Puritans and Prelatists that were they among the Deriders of a Crucified Christ where the use were not a Formality or worse but convenient to tell the Infidels their mind that they are not ashamed of the Cross of Christ would not refuse seasonably to Cross themselves But the Puritans think that when it is made a solemn stated sign of the Duty and Grace of the New Covenant dedicating there by the person to God as one hereby obliging himself to profess the Faith of Christ Crucified and manfully to fight under his Banner against the Devil the World and the Flesh to the death in hope of the Benefits of his Cross and Covenant and so is made a Badge or Symbol of our Christianity then it is made a Sacrament of the Covenant of Grace added to Christs Sacrament of the same use or at least too like it though the Name be denyed it And they think that Christ hath given none power to make such new Sacraments or Symbols of Christianity he having done that sufficiently himself They have a conceit that the King would not be pleased with them that either frame a new Oath of Allegiance added to his as the Badge of his Subjects Loyalty nor yet that would make a new Badge of the Order of the Knights of the Garter without his consent At least the Puritans think that Baptism and Christianity and Christian Burial should not be denyed to those Children whose Parents do not offer them to be baptized with this additional Symbol And if the poor men be deceived in such thoughts it is but in fear of sinning against Christ and not that they are more ashamed of his Cross than you or more disobedient to Authority IV. Your next instance is The Prelatick Protestant wonders that the Puritane can doubt the holy Euchrist is really and truly the body of Christ c. And you cite Dr. Cosins Hist Transub p. 44. Answ 1. The Prelatick Protestant and the Puritane differ not at all about the real presence of Christs body in the Sacrament as I have shewed you elsewhere What need you more proof than King Edwards old Rubrick against the Real Presence in a gross sence lately restored to the Liturgie And as for Dr. Cosins words and book I again tell you all the Doctors of the Roman Church are never able to answer his full proof that Transubstantiation is a late innovation and none of the doctrine of the ancient Churches We challenge you all to give any reasonable answer to that book And you still Cunningly bawke the main Controversie between us and you which is not whether Christs Body be there but whether Bread and Wine be there For I have told you 1. That we who know not how far a Glorified