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A01148 The conuersion of a most noble lady of Fraunce In Iune last past, 1608. Madame Gratiana, wife to the high and mightie lord; Claudius, Lord of Tremoille; Duke of Thouars; peere of Fraunce, and Prince of Talmonde. A most Christian epistle, written by her, to the ladyes of Fraunce, to resolue them in the cause of her conuersion from popery, to the the profession of Gods Gospell: and aduising them to imitate her religious example. Truely translated out of French. Tremoille, Charlotte Brabantina, Duchess of, 1580-1631.; Munday, Anthony, 1553-1633. 1608 (1608) STC 11262; ESTC S102563 29,611 56

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not then your faire selues guiltie of such foule and polluted behauiour nor be you present where Christs name is misprised erecting another Altar against the Altar of his Crosse and renewing his sacrifice by substitution of a newe one as if his were but a yeare old or like to the sacrifices of brut beastes lame or imperfect Or as if the means which he hath ordained for the application thereof as the preaching of the Gospell and administration of his instituted Sacraments were insufficient to conuay their vertue vnto vs. For this is the fairest fruite of their pretended sacrifice that the reiteration and daily renewing thereof is branded with the marke of insufficiencie and imperfection as you heare the Apostle to auouch the same when he speakes of the sacrifices of the old Lawe which were performed often True it is that they would faine ground their sacrifice vpon Gods word but good Ladies marke in what manner I beseech you and be Iudges your selues for the case is very cleare Behold say they Iesus Christ making his Supper with his Apostles said Doe this in remembraunce of me Doe that is as much to say according to their glosse as make or performe this sacrifice because that Christ had said before This is my bodie which is giuen for you But if it pleased them to read all they should better perceiue the words and meaning of our Sauiour which indeed are nothing lesse then agreeing with their glossing The Euangelists doe record vnto vs that our Lord Iesus hauing taken bread and giuen thankes brake it and said to his Disciples Take cate this is my bodie which is giuen for you doe this in the remembraunce of me And how doe this why no otherwise but euen to doe it in the same manner that is to say To take the bread and distribute it among them to be eaten for no other mention is made there either of offering or of sacrificing For you see sweete Ladies that Christ himselfe vsed no other words but Take and eate And the holy Apostle Saint Paule doth sufficiently shewe vs that of these words doe this there is no other vnderstanding to be made but that which hath bin declared alreadie For in speaking of the wine at the same Supper he reciteth likewise the same words spoken by our Lord Iesus Christ Doe this alwayes and as oftentimes as you shall drinke in remembraunce of me Which importeth as much as if he had said Alwayes or as oft entimes as you shall drinke of this wine in this Sacrament Drinke it in remembrance of me that this may be in remembraunce of my Death or continue as a memoriall thereof Which manner or phrase of speaking the Apostle himselfe adioyneth in the following verse For alwayes or as oftentimes as you shall eate of this bread and drinke of this Cuppe you shall shewe the Lords death vntill he come Consider now good Ladies I beseech you that these are none of our glosses but the very expresse text it selfe where you see manifestly by Saint Paules owne exposition what thing it is the Lord would haue vs to doe concerning as well the people as the Pastour For the commandement Doe this directeth it selfe to all the faithfull to wit That we should eate this bread of the Sacrament and drinke the wine in remembraunce of his death and passion According as the words doe signifie themselues when he spake of his bodie which is broken and giuen for you and likewise of his bloud which is shed or dispersed for you All which he spake hauing regard to that which soone after should ensue His bodie was to be deliuered ouer to death and his bloud to be shed vpon the Crosse for vs poore wreched and miserable sinners And the reason why he spake so of the time present which is giuen which is shed is the common Latine verssion or translation allowed by the Counsell of Trente expressing thereby the time to come which shall be giuen which shall be s●…ed then which nothing can be more manifest honored Ladies if it pleased you but to open your owneeies For then you should perceiue that there Christ made on mention of offering And if they would presse these words which is giuen to conclude thereby that euen then when Iesus made his Supper he offered vp his bodie in sacrifice Of necessitie and by the selfe same reason they must also conclude these words my bloud which is shed that euen then he did shed his bloud which cannot be neither could be for his bloud was not shed but vpon the Crosse Good Madames entreat the very learnedst of your Romaine Sacrificers to shew vs but one place in the Scripture where it is commaunded vs to sacrifice Iesus Christ againe For the place rehearsed maketh not any iote for them and they know likewise well enough that the Greeke word Poiein vsed by the Euangelists reciting the words of our Lord and Sauiour and Saint Paule after them Also the word in the Siriack tongue Habad which our Lord himselfe vsed could neuer be vnderstood to Sacrifice or Offer Goe we on then to some other proprieties of the Masse I come now to the Idolatrie which we find in the second part of the Masse to wit at the Sacrament and that is in this They propose or hold vp a piece of bread to the people to be adored and worshipped by them for God saying That there is the blessed bodie of our Sauiour hidden vnder the accidents of bread although it doe not appeare to be so and the faithfull can discerne but bread only To prooue their idolatrie in this point I will goe no whither else but to the direct institution of the Supper according as our Lord himselfe did institute it which they altogether depraue only to confirme and establish their Idoll wherein gentle Ladies I craue not only your patience but also your dilligent regard Behold how Iesus Christ promiseth vs that we shall be partakers of his bodie and of his bloud At all times or as oftentimes as we shall celebrate this misterie according as he did celebrate the same with his Apostles In distributing the bread he said Take eate this is my bodie which is given for you doe this in remembrance of me Likewise in deliuering the wine he said Drinke you all of this for this is my bloud c. where we may discerne that he putteth the commaundement in the first place in saying to vs that we shall take eate and drinke Then he annexeth the promise wherein he testifieth vnto vs that that which we eate is his bodie and that which we drinke is his bloud To enjoy then the effect and benefit of this promise it behooueth that the faithfull doe take and eate the bread drinke the wine which is giuen to them In briefe there is the communion of many faithfull in doing that which Iesus Christ representing to the whole Church did performe in
like manner they haue prouided that the people shall vnderstand nothing that they say for they speake to them in a strange language but this is most certaine and I desire you Sister Ladyes to obserue it that the prayers before mentioned doe remaine yet in the Canon of their Masse to condemne them of impudence both before God and men So that if a more learned iudgement then my weake womans capacitie should search into the originall of this euill it would be found out as indeed it is very likely that their enioyning and constraining the people to confesse and declare their sinnes to the Priest was purposely intended before their admission to receiue the Sacrament And this doe they also without any ordenance of God who commaundeth vs to confesse and declare our sinnes to him and require pardon as hee promiseth to giue the same to all that are truely repentant assuring and certifying vs thereof yea sealing it in our soules and consciences by his owne word in his Gospell when hee is preached vnto vs and when we beleeue effectually wherevpon and in regard whereof the mynisterie of the Gospell is thus tearmed by the Apostle He hath giuen vs the ministery of reconciliation The people then finding the burden of sinne to be very heauy as indeed it is were vainely perswaded to make a particular numeration of their sins to the Priest or minister of the Church which growing to a liberty and licence by little and little by ignorance and malice in their Pastours the course thereof was not cut off as it ought to haue been But yet the people then were thereby granted this benefite that they might communicate in the Sacrament once a yeare or twise or thrise for them of greatest deuotion but all the residue of the people must leaue the Priest alone at the Altare there to communicate by himselfe And thus one errour grewe to beget another when once they began to decline from the direct pathes of perfection and since then they haue made a custome of assembling the people together but not inuiting them to the Communion onely to heare their Masses sayd or sung in diuers angles of their Temples for which they are not ashamed and Ladyes I am sure you know it perfectly to demand a price or valuation for ech seuer all Masse a thing most horrible and the like neuer heard of Thus the Communion of the Sacrament is not onely violently taken from the people but the Sacrament it selfe by this meanes is made no account of For wheras both Priest and people ought to meete together in one place there to heare together the declaration of his bitter death and passion and to participate in common in the Sacrament of this vnion O deere Ladyes I cannot speake it without teares or you heare it without much hearts griefe if you were as you should bee That that diuine place I say should now bee become a meere faire or maket to traffique and merchandise those sacred blessings which God out of his owne bountie made a liberail gift of and freely bestowed vpon all his faithfull seruaunts to their singular comforte and endlesse consolation But not to wander too farre from mine intended purpose I come now to another most manifest sacriledge committed likewise in the Masse to wit that in those Masses where they doe admit the people to the Communion eyther at the feast of Easter or when they command a generall communicating They then defraud the people of one part of the Sacrament namely the Cup. Oh what an audacious insolence is this Iesus Christ distributed the wine as well as the bread when hee made his Supper with his Apostles and spake hee not to make publike notice thereof when giuing them the Cup hee said Drinke you all of this And after him the Apostle left the very same instruction to the Church of Corinth Let eoh man saith hee prooue and examine himselfe and so let him eate of this Bread and drinke of this Cup. But your Romaine disciples vnder the shaddow of some supposed inconueniences imagined onely by themselues as if they would seeme to bee wiser than the Maister haue ordayned that the people shall communicate but vnder one kind and that is of the bread only Is not this an enormous sacriledge to separate them a sunder which God hath ioyned together yea and by his own expresse institution But let them be well assured that the Authoures and fauourers of a crime so haynous shall one daye yeeld a most strickt account therefore True it is that they alleadge their Concomitancy in excuse of this matter a woord expresly forged whereby to maintaine their sacriledge and herein they seeme to auouch that the bloud keeps company with the body and therefore is alwayes with the body But when wee answere them that Iesus Christ knewe this Concomitancy as well as they and yet notwithstanding he did not forbeare to distribute both the signes of Wine and Bread what reply they then Why then they further inferre in answere which indeed can carry it selfe for no answere at all It was Iesus Christs will that in his Supper wee should consider his bloud separate or apart from his bodye and that wee should represent before our eyes his death euen as his blood was spilt and shed And therefore in giuing the Cuppe he sayth Drinke you all of this For this is my bloude of the newe Testament which is shed for many for the remission of sinnes Now such Concomitance of the body and of the bloud cannot agree or consent with the death of Iesus Christ because to bee both in the body to bee shed out of the body are contrary things wherfore it necessarily ensueth that that can haue no place in the Sacrament which bringeth vs directly to the confideration of the death of Iesus Christ guides vs not to the effusion of his bloud It behooueth then that wee haue the effusion or streaming forth of his precious bloud euen as if it were present before our eyes if wee would celebrate the Sacrament according as Iesus Christ did ordaine it because aboue all it doth most assure vs in the Sacrament that our sinnes are forgiuen vs in his bloud which is our cleansing and washing But if these reasons may gaine no place with you faire Ladyes nor them that are both your aduersaries and ours who for the most part build onely vpon traditions At least yet will them to allow the Canons of their Popes which doe manifestly condemne them in this poynt and for a president behold what is said in one of the Canons of the Pope Gelasius Wee haue vnderstood that there are some who taking only a portion of the blessed body do abstaine from the Cup of his precious bloud And because it is not knowne vpon what superstition they doe this we will that they shall receiue the Sacraments together or that they abstaine