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A65896 The way of life and perfection livingly demonstrated in some serious animadversions or remarks and answers upon the book entituled The middle way of perfection, with indifferency between the orthodox and the Quaker, herein considered, and the naked truth as it is in Christ Jesus, opened in real love to the souls of men / by George Whitehead. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1676 (1676) Wing W1973; ESTC R20758 42,882 60

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THE Way of Life AND PERFECTION Livingly Demonstrated IN Some serious Animadversions or Remarks and Answers upon the Book ENTITULED The middle VVay of Perfection with Indifferency between the Orthodox and the Quaker Herein considered and the naked Truth as it is in Christ Jesus opened in real Love to the Souls of men By George Whitehead Let your Moderation appear unto all Men Doing nothing by Partiality Printed in the Year 1676. Friendly Reader THE Publication of this ensuing Treatise is from a Necessity that came upon me for the holy Truth sake to remove Occasions of stumblings out of the Way of the simple and honest minded Inquirers after the Way of the Lord which is perfect so that although by Reason of other weighty Concernments the Press being also clogged with other Books this hath lain by in Manuscript above a Year after it was finished being written at sundry Oportunities when I could find some spare time yet I could not be clear in Conscience that my Labour in it should so remain obscure or the Service frustrated which I hope it may be of to such serious and unprejudiced Readers as desire after the Knowledge of the Truth as i● is in Chrst Jesus which is the Aim and End of my Labours and Travails I could have been content only to have sent a Copy of this Treatise unto the Author of the Book stiled The Middle Way of Perfection if that would have cleared Truth from his Mistake and removed the Burden off me but that could not be sufficient in regard his Book was so publick and if he come seriously to consider and see wherein he hath been mistaken and misrepresented us called Quakers especially in the latter Part of his Book it is to be hoped that out of a Respect to that Christianity Justice and Moderation professed by him he will as publickly do us Right in retracting his Mistakes and Misconstruction put upon us as to some Things of weight and moment which in this Treatise are seriously and from a Sense of the Foundation of God spoken to and opened in Love both to this Man's Soul and the Souls of all who desire true Information in these weighty Matters of Salvation herein treated on London the 12th of the 12th Moneth 1675. G. W. THE CONTENTS Sect. I. OF Justification from the Charge of the Law and the Charge of the Gospel how far it extends and our Evangelical Obedience of absolute Necessity page 10. Sect. II. Of Perfection being our Duty and how attainable confessed by this Moderator or midle-man pag. 12. Sect. III. Some Objections alledged by him against the attaining to Perfection answered pag. 17. Sect. IV. His Objection against sinless Perfection for sinful Imperfection in this Life proceeds from his wanting the true Sight of that Seed and Nature wherein is Victory and Perfection pag. 19. Sect. V. His Alleganiots for Sin from these Scriptures viz. There is no Man that sinneth not not a just Man upon Earth that doth good and sinneth not No more I that sinneth but Sin that dwelleth in me in many Things we offend all if we say that we have no Sin c. considered and answered pag. 21. Sect. VI. Of Regeneration the two contrary Principles and concerning the Phrases Whatsoever is born of God and Whosoever is born of God c. pag. 23. Sect. VII The Law of Grace Condition of Life and greater Commandments being performed sincere Obedience in lesser things may not be omitted pag. 25. Sect. VIII The calm Protestants in granting a Real and True Righteousness and that which is perfect and entire according to the Covenant or Law of Grace do assent to the Quakers Doctrine of Perfection pag. 28. Sect. IX The Performance of the Condition or Covenant of Grace and David's Perfection or being found a Man after God's own Heart not concerned in a sinful State nor consistant with the Breach of Duty and of Sin unto Death pag. 30. Sect. X. That Heaven wherein Unrighteousness dwells is not the New Heaven of the new Law and Spirit 's Assistance to the Performance of Imputation being crucified with Christ Children of God c. pag. 33. Sect. XI Of Repentance what real and what not of Christ as Propitiation some Scriptures perverted for Sin by our Moderator of God's entering into Judgement c. pag. 36. Sect. XII Of Justification Grace Law of our Creation Redemption as in Christ and as in us as universal and as peculiar the Quakers opinion about Perfection misconstrued pag. 39. Sect. XIII That those called Divines who deny Christ's Universal Grace and Redemption are stumbling in the dark and not orthodox of God's Terms and Man's Terms of Faith Repentance sinning and not sinning c. pag. 42. Sect. XIV That the Quakers have the Divines on the blind Side that the orthodox are quite out about Justification c. confessed pag. 44. Sect. XV. The Spirit 's Help to that Perfection which is the keeping the Commandments or Perfection obtained in and by the Spirit and spiritual Birth and not by the Flesh in the Letter pag. 47. Sect. XVI The Charge of bolstering up Men in their Sins justified against the pretended Divines who oppose Perfection and they not at all cleared by this Advocate pag. 49. Sect. XVII His pretended Discovery of several Inconveniencies of our Doctrine as the hurling Men into Despair casting off God's Care c. no real or true Discovery but the Consequences of his own and his Divines Doctrine for Imperfection so much confuted by himself the State of the most mortified on E●rth not consistant with Sin his reiterated Mistake against us pag. 53. Sect. XVIII His most dreadful Consequence and Conclusion of our Doctrine viz. of Evils secret and deadly to the Soul Contempt of most serious holy Professors monstrous overweening Conceit of a Man's self despising and setting at nought of others turned into a groundless Fear and proved inconsequent and his pretended Danger and Fear that it cannot consist with the Grace of God c. proved altogether causeless and groundless pag. 56. THE WAY of LIFE AND PERFECTION Experimntally Demonstrated c. WE must confess that the Author's Proposition near his Beginning is very moderate viz. As the best Physitians have been noted sometimes to take very great Regard to the ordinary Receipts of old Women and the meanest Persons so will it become the M●dest Divine to endeavour rather to discover and sift out that Truth which lies in his Adversaryes Meaning then to expose and shame their Opinions As also that in the first Part of his Book there are divers Truths contained in which he hath exprest more Modesty and Candor then in the latter Part and because there appears not that universal Consistency in his Work which the profest Indifferency or Impartiality should have produced I therefore propose this Method in my Observations and Remarks upon them viz. 1 st To take Notice of those Truths in his first Part together with some Variations therefrom
more absolute not only from all those Things from which we could not be justified by the Law of Moses but also in a constant Perseverance in the Grace and Goodness of God in Christ and faithful Obedience to him through the Spirit which is revealed in us Again we know no Opinion of ours that leads th●se Friends called Quakers from the Spirit and Life back to the Letter and Flesh and Ministration of Death but to bring men forward through the Law to be dead unto it and through the Sentence of Death to the Ministration of Life which exceeds in Glory that under this they might live unto God Though I own the Apostle's distinguishing between the Letter and the Spirit the Law of the Spirit of Life and the Law of sin and Death the old Covenant and the new the Law of Faith and the Law of Works yet his deeming the ●aw written in stone the Law of sin and Death page 27. In this I am not satisfied for the Apostle spe●ks of two contrary Laws the Law in his Mind which was holy and the other Law in his Members which rebelled against the Law and led him captive Now I dare not exclude the Substance of what was contained in the Law written in Stone as not being contained in that Law in Paul's Mind though that Law in his Mind had a greater Effect and Force upon him then the Law without ever had before and when he said The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ hath made me free from the Law of sin and Death We may not understand him to be made free from answering the Righteousness of Love to God required in the Law written in the Tables of Stone so though it was in a more effectual and lively Manner written in the fleshly Tables of the Heart wherein it was renewed and became a New Commandment though in it Self an old Commandment yet this Commandment as renewed and made lively in the Soul remains still Love out of a Pure Heart and is ●ve● that Commandment which is exceeding broad Sect. XV. The Law of Grace does require a sincere walking before God in all his Commandments and the Spirit of God doth certainly help us so far as we sin not against that Sincerity page 28. Animad Why then should we fall short of our Duty or of Perfect Obedience Can we desire better Help then that of the Spirit Object But the Spirit is not given to bring us up to the Terms of the Law and that we should not sin at all page 28. Animad Not That 's strange is not the Spirit given to lead us into all Truth throughly to sanctifie justifie c what can be requir'd more then to be in ALL Truth for a perfect sinless State Object The Galatians were seduced to the Opinion that they must keep Moses Law or else they could not be saved and this is their seeking to be made perfect by the Flesh the Flesh and Nature are synoynmous Terms the Works of the Law as given by Moses are called Flesh pag. 28. Animad 1st The Galatians then were seduced from the Spirit wherein they had begun to seek to be made perfect by the Flesh which cannot be justly chargeable upon us who seek Perfection by the Spirit desiring to continue and walk therein for that End 2 dly The Apostle doth not oppose Perfection but reprove their Foolishness for seeking it the wrong way viz. in the Flesh and not in the Spirit 3 dly Not all the Works of the Law given by Moses are called Flesh or Nature but such Works as the Galatians were turned again into from the Spirit such as were but shadowy ceremonial and elementary and such as stood in Fleshly Observations as the observing of Dayes Meats Drinks dive●s Washings weak and beggerly Elements of the World Circumcision c. which the Apostle so much argues against 4 thly ●f any turn from the Spirit and then seek to be made perfect by their Fleshly lmitation of the Law or Voluntary observation of the most weighty Precepts thereof without the Spirit 's Guidance and Assistance this is no better then a seeking to be made perfect by the Flesh and short of that which the Apostle travailed for on the behalf of the Galatians which was that Christ might be formed in them which is not a Fleshly Birth in the Shadow but a Spiritual Birth in the Life and Substance that lives to God for ever Object If the Quaker then is come to seek Life by such a following his Light as must answer the Covenant of Nature it self that is by a Perfection as is without sin against the Law he is plainly under the Notion of the Spirit brought at last to the Flesh for what he seeks page 28. Animad This is a gross Mistake and it no Wayes follows from our following the Light of Christ for Perfection without sin that we must be brought at last to the Flesh for what we seek this can be no wayes deducible from our following this Light within for it is neither Flesh nor Fleshly but Divine and Spiritual and the contrary Inference plainly follows for if we walk in the Light as God is in the Light then have we Fellowship one with another and the Blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all Sin observe from all S●n what Sin then can remain behind Sect. XVI Object Concess It seems that these Friends do apprehend that our Doctrine which p●●seth Perf●ction doth serve for the boistering up Men in their sins and lull them into security that though they live and dye in their Wicked●●ss they must be saved and this being taught spiciall among us Protestants who believe that we are justified by Christ's Righteousness without Works doth appear very destructive to many Souls which makes them out of an Intention which we may suppose zealous for God●ness and the Promotion of a Good Life to f●ll on our Divines with so much tragical Exclamation as they do on this Point page 28 29. Animad And we have Reason sufficient to exclaim against them on this Point for indulging and bo●stering up men in their Sins to their Grave yea we may say to their Grave of Perdition and what this Man saith for such their divines and against Vs for an abuse herein page 29. will neither clear them nor prove us guilty of wronging them and I wish that he would no further contribute to their Sin in this Point though yet he himself is not satisfied with those he calls Divines as appears in divers Passages of his Book and particularly touching their unsound sense of imputed Righteousness which he sets aside in the same 29th page which we are now upon and I would seriously ask him if that their unsound Sense of Imputation doth not give us occasion to witness against them as too much soothing or bolstering up men in their Sins And if their Sense herein be not repugnant to Christianity But to excuse
of the Condition of the Covenant of Grace can consist with Let a Man's Sins be what th●y will which Words have a Tendence to an Evil Liberty for a justified State is plainly opposed as contrary to that of the Unrighteous in this 1 Cor. 6. 9 10 11. Object It 's further added Though we fail in our Duty we fulfil the Condition page 18. Animad How can that be if the Covenant of Grace or Law of Faith be the Condition which we are to observe and obey as our Duty so far as it concerns us both as enjoyned and assisted by Christ Jesus our Life and Righteousness Is it not our Duty to fulfil the Condition and do we yet fail in our Duty whilest we fulfil it No sure As to David's Heart being perfect and that he kept God's Commandments or Precepts 1st This of his Heart being perfect respects what was sincere and uprght in David as a Spirit without Guile a sincere Desire Intention and Resolution of Heart towards God though for a Time he had Failings and was bes●t with Temptations yet the Lord had Regard to his Uprightness c. 2 dly David's keeping God's Commandments or Precepts was when he was really clear and actually obedient walking in the Wayes of God and not as consistant with his sinning in the Matter of Uriah c. for which he underwent great Judgment and deep Affliction often imploring Mercy and Pardon praying for Cleansing Washing c. 3dly As he was a Man after God's own Heart he was according to and in God's Choice and Promise he stood in the Election The Lord hath sought him a Man after his own Heart 1 Sam. 13. 14. I have found David the Son of Jesse a Man after mine own Heart which shall fulfil all my Will this being fulfilled he was in a precious State not guilty nor condemnable for after God's own Heart was both ●is Sincerity Perfection and Purity Surely being a Man after God's own Heart and fulfilling all his Will could not concern David's worst but his best State Object But to answer that Complaint That his Sins were more then the Hairs upon his Head this Writer saith There are Sins consistant with Sincerity and inconsistant with it Animad Though I would as favourably construe his Words as I can yet this Phrase Sins consistant with Sincerity I can neither own to be sound scriptural or of a good Tendence but tending to gratifie both the sin-pleasing Professors unrighteous Imputarians and loose Antinomians of our Times for though I do gra●t ●hat a sincere-minded Man may possibly be overtaken with a Fault through some great Temptation or Tryal yet not loose his Sincerity though it be clouded but retain his Integrity as Job did his until he be fully recovered restored and delivered wherein he differs from him that wilfully or designedly sins or is obstinate or wittingly dissembles and playes the Hypocrite yet no Sin or Neglect of Duty is consistant with the Sincerity it self which God hath begotten in the Creature but there is a daily or constant Travail and Warring in the sincere Mind and Soul until the Sin be overcome and really done away as it was with Paul when with his Mind he served the Law of God had travailed in Spirit for Deliverance from that Law of Sin which did embondage or captivate his Members in which low Estate of warring God hath an Eye to the upright and sincere Mind that waits upon him and subjects to his inward Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus and by his Spirit of Adoption doth help his Creature 's Infirmities until all that offends be subdued and the Soul becomes more then a Conquerer And so as for his Distinction between the Breach of our Duty and the Condition while he discourseth for Failing of the first and yet a Fu●filling the latter I cannot reconcile him herein nor own such Distinctions either as necessary or consistant with the real Experience of a Justified State wherein the Law of the Spirit of Life or Law of Faith in Christ is answered and followed and the Effect thereof experienced in them that are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the Flesh but after the Spirit and in them the Righteousness Morality Good Order and Duty both respecting the Law and Gospel Nature and Grace is fulfilled by Christ Jesus and performed through his spiritual Assistance It 's true there is a Sin unto Death as he saith and a Sin not unto Death and no better then sinning unto Death can I look ●pon Men's Continuance in any known Sin or Unrighteousness all their Life Time against the holy and just Law of God in the Conscience the Sin of Impenitence as well as of Unbelief being persisted in incurs Death as it 's granted that David in the M●t●er wherein he sinned in that present State could not have been saved if he had dyed but surely if the Condition of true Faith and Repentance be performed and the Nature there of be experienced the other Acts of Duty and Obedience will follow for is there any Sin or Neglect of Duty that 's not to be repented of and ceas'd from or can a true Believer see any Sin or Failing without believing or exercising Faith in his Warring against it till he overcome and he hath out grown it No sure he attains to the Accomplishment of his Warfare through valiantly fighting the Good Fight of Faith he reacheth unto the End of his Race by unwearied travailing on without Fainting Sect. X. To his saying Behold here a Kind of Heaven opened unto you who are the Children of God and fear his Name where all your Sins and Iniquities are removed and where every one of you are righteous and perfect and sin not for this is the Benefit and Fruit of Christ's Death and Redemption that he hath delivered you from that Law which you break Animad 1st That Heaven where all Sins and Iniquities are removed and where the Children of God are perfect and sin not is not of this Man's or any of their opening who oppose perfection of Duty and argue for Sin 's continuance in God's Children whilest in this Life for that Heaven wherein dwells Righteousness and they are all Righteous and sin not admits not of Sin to have any Place in it the Will of God being perfectly done therein 2 dly That 's the old Heaven and old Earth wherein dwells Unrighteousness and these must ●e shaken and removed for the New to take Place 3 dly Christ is the End of the Law for Righteousness and not to indulge Transgression or any Breach of that Law which is Holy Just and Good fulfilled and not destroyed in the New Creature and Covenant 4 thly 'T is true as he saith That Christ hath brought us under a New Law the Law of Grace which requires nothing of us but what sub Ratione Conditions we do keep for he gives his holy Spirit to enable us to the
Performance so that not only our Sins are done away and not imputed but forgiven as the Iniquities of Judah shall be sought for and not fou●d but this Covenant hath nothing to lay to our Charge to which I would add as we are Children of God redeemed by Christ who gave himself for us that he might redeem us from all Iniquity mark that And further Blessed is he whose Transgression is forgiven and whose Sin is covered bless●d is the Man unto whom the Lord imputeth not Iniquity and in whose Spirit there is No Guile Psa. 32. 1 2. Observe In whose Spirit is NO Guile And further the holy Spirit in this New Covenant enables them that walk in it to the perfect Performance of their Duty therein required and the Reconciliation that was wrought in the Body of his Flesh through Death for such as were sometimes alienated as the Apostle saith I was to present them Holy unreproveable in his Sight if they continue in the Faith grounded and setled and be not moved away from the Hope of the Gospel this unreproveable State in his Sight and Duty of Continuance in the Faith is the Perfection and Justification that we aim at As for his granting a Perfection which Divines call Evangelical to the Quaker that is an Integrity of Heart and Life which the Gospel requires of every man that shall be saved pag. 20. We accept of this Grant as rightly understood and experienced in the Evangelical and New Covenant State and are satisfied that where this Integrity of Heart and Life which the Gospel requires is thus experienced there will not be a Falling short of Duty especially since neither the Knowledge thereof nor yet divine Assistance will be wanting to such as possess this Integrity of Heart and Life As for this Man's Supposition If these Friends meaning the Qu●kers will have more then they must come to that our Divines call legal Righteousness c. page 20. I do not understand that a legal Righteousness or Righteousness of the Law can be more or higher then an Evangelical Perfection or Righteousness which the Gospel requires nor Moses's House more beautiful then Christ's though we do not propose the Righteousness of the Law or the keeping the Law in the outward Part of it nor impose it as in the Letter and Shaddow as either the Condition of Salvation or necessary thereto but True Faith in Christ which worketh by Love and as the Apo●stle said I though the Law am dead to the Law that I might liv● unto God I am crucifi●d with Christ c. Gal. 2. 19 20. As for this Man's or any others sleighting the Perfection we plead for tearming it a legal Righteousness we value not such insinuations seeing that to live without Sin according to the Royal Law of Love is both what the Law and Gospel requires and he hath confessed it our Duty and possib●e for us to attain to it through the Assistance of God's ●pirit It is granted that the Disciples did call God Father and so they must be in some Degree called and adopted to be his Sons while they did ask Forgiveness for th●ir Tresp●ss●s or D●bts as they for●gave others yet I do not grant this to be their highest State or Attainments in this Life for they did not only obtain Forgiven●ss but also the Blood of Christ cleansed them from all Sin and if they were heard in saying Thy Will be done in Earth as it is in Heaven as doubtless they were then what Sin or Trespass could alwayes be continued by them or persisted in which was not perfectly done away in this Life I further confess that true Believers may be called the Children of God and under two Considerations or Degrees 1 st As called and adopted to be his Sons being begotten into the Faith w●ile yet they are weak and have Infirmities which the Spirit of Adoption doth help they are Children as to their Weakness little Children Children in Understanding yet in a Degree 〈◊〉 Faith Sincerity and Innocency having their Sins forgiven I have writ unto you little Children because your Sins are forgiven you 2dly Children and Sons of God in a higher Degree and State perfectly born not only of Water but also of the Spirit even of the incorruptible Seed that liveth and abideth forever Partakers of and naturallized into the Divine Nature and Image and such are they that cannot sin in whom the Seed remains and whom the Wicked one cannot touch c. And if he cannot touch them muchless lead or drive them into sin or Neglect of Duty further the Forgiveness that any true Believer had daily need of for a time was obtained and experienced even by little Children Touching that Article of that Prayer Forgive us our Trespasses c. The Man seems undeservedly to reflect by saying yet they think they may scratch it out of their Bibles because they leave it unsaid page 21. I suppose he meaneth the Quakers herein having a little before insinuated something against them touching Perfection which I cannot own as fair Dealing for we think no such Thing but do really own that Prayer both as to the Matter and seasonableness of it and as to the Fulfilling of it with Respect to the several Condition concerned therein Sect. XI To his saying page 21. That the constant stream of God's Word runs thus that we are sinners that we must all repent that we must alwayes be renewing our Repentance in making our Prayers Confessions Supplications doing our Alms c. Animad He appears herein much declined from the first Part of his Book and the Perfection and universal Justification therein consented to as our Duty and Possibillity of Attainment through Divine Grace or Assistance Now he seems to be fallen into the Ditch of the Imputarians of the Times who are daily pretending Repentance Humiliation Confessions and Supplications which are never attended with a real forsaking of Sin but they are sinning still in their best Dutyes none of them so just or good as to do good without sinning in doing good while they have Forgveness to crave for the Iniquities of their best Dutyes at which Rate they may be every Day praying feigning a Penitency and Humility and even therein still adding more Sin and making themselves more Work Both this pretended Repentance Voluntary and feigned Humility is to be repented of if the true Nature of Repentance Praying Asking and Receiving were experienced through the Spirit it would cut off all this strugling for Sin which must have no Place in Christ's Kingdom Upon that Scripture If any Man sin we have an Advocate with the Father who is the Propitiation for our Sins and also for the Sins of the whole World upon this he is pleased to pataphrase thus viz. There is our Sins St. John's Sins that need Advocate as well as the World page 21. Animad I must need confess this allows St. John very little Preeminence the Comparison is somewhat mean for our
these he calls Divines he pleads viz. It is but the same Doctrine of God's abounding free Grace Mercy and Forgiveness through Christ to poor sinners that our Divines do bring against the Doctrine of Perfection setting the unsound sense of Imputed Righteousness aside which Paul preached and pleaded against those who would bring in the Work● of the Law for their Justification Animad This will neither cure the Disease of those Divines nor free them from our Charge nor yet reconcile their Doctrine herein to the Apostle Paul's for Paul did not preach the abounding of free Grace c. against the Doctrine of Perfection nor against the Saints living without Sin but the plain contrary as appe●rs Rom. 6. Even so we should also walk in Newness of Life ver 4. Knowing this that our old man is crucified with him c. ver 6. And shall we sin because we are not under the Law but under Grace God forbid ver 15. See the Chapter throughout 't is very full to our Purpose See also Rom. 5. 17 20 21. What 's more evident then that the Doctrine of the Apostle and the Nature of the Grace of God are against the continuance of Sin in any of those that come to dye with Christ and to live under Grace and to partake of the abounding of Grace toward and in them There are tow Things particularly our Divines teach The one is that notwithstanding Grace be imperfect in this life there is no Man may sin for all that in any the least Thing whatsoever that is though our Holiness be imperfect yet is it our Duty to be perfect and we are still to be pressed to go on to Perfection The other is That a State of Grace will not stand with any Sin in Dominion that is that whosoever doth willingly and wilfully live in any known sin without Repentance unto Death he cannot be saved An. No doubt but this Person hath here made the best he can of a bad Cause as we have Reason to deem it but is far enough from clearing those Divines from the Charge that 's laid against their Doctrine as Sin pleasing or soothing and bolstering up Men in their Sins c. For though it 's true they seem to preach down every Sin and to preach up perfect Obedience as our Duty and to press Men to go on to Perfection yea and that a State of Grace will not stand with any Sin in Dominion What Encouragement can they hereby minister for such Duty and Pressing on to Perfection when they perswade People that what they preach and press them unto it not attainable as to tell them 't is their Duty to be perfect and not to sin at all but 't is impossible to attain that State Grace is imperfect in this Life c. this is not Yea and Amen if they were real and preach'd the word of Faith they durst never put such faithless Thoughts into the Minds of People like as to put them upon a War without an Enemy but first disarm them with such an Unbelie● or Dispair of a Conquest whereas if they faithfully preached perfect Obedience c. and believed what they preached they would sincerely endeavour their Eucouragement by exciting them to believe in and depend upon the Grace and Power of God in Christ which is stronger then the Devil that they might experience That greater is he that is in us then he that is in the World and not tell them that Grace and Holiness are imperfect in this Life and no Men but that he sins so long as he lives no not the best of God's Children yet a state of Grace will not stand with any sin in Domini●● Why then must Sin have any Place of Continuance shall God's Children by the Grace either have Dominion or Power over Sin and yet suffer Sin alwayes to have any Being or Prevalency in them can this either consist with a State of Grace or their Sincerity No sure The Matter is sufficiently answered before shall we have Dominion over such an Enemy so far as that he is conquered slain and ca●●ut and yet after●a●ds suffer him to rise again and lead us captive in any Thing all our Dayes God's Children and People who have been throughly experienced in the Lamb's War have otherwise obtained the Conquest and Dominion at that dear Rate then so easily to part with it or give their Power or Service to such a conquered Enemy as the Devil who is the Author of all Sin It is true as the Man saith page 29. That there are many practical Books of those called Divines wherein Vniversal Obedience is both press●d and given as the chiefe●● Note of an Vpright Man and of that Faith which is saving This is true and no doubt but in former Times this Universal Obedience was preached and urged with more Faith and Sincerity then is now in many that pretend to preach it but do it in that overly and faithless Manner that it hath no lively Impression upon the Hearers Consciences as to evidence them truly to believe endeavour or expect such an Universal Obedience to all God's Requirings in the Covenant of Grace but rather many do spoile and marr their preaching Obedience by their preaching up Imperfection and Sin Term of Life and such preaching hath more abounded yea been too much upheld in this Nation of late years in despite against the Quakers and in Contempt against the Doctrine of Perfection The Presbyter Priests and some others have filled the Nation with their Doctrine of the Impossibility of Perfection or a sinless State to render it not attainable wherein though they have done it the more eagerly to shame and odifie the Quakers in the Peoples ●yes their Doctrine tends to debase many to Hell having hardened Men in Sin and strengthned the Hands of Evil doers and made many Hypocrites for which they have a sad Account to give in the great Day of God Almighty Object Will it not indeed suffice that a Man is uprights before God in his Desires and Endeavours after Perfection that is the having Respect to all his Commandments unless he also be perfect and his Works overtake his Will what then shall become of the Generàtion of the most just An. 1st The Des●●● and Endeavours only of the Upright Man do not suffice 〈◊〉 but his receiving the Answer or Thing desired and endeave●● after 2 dly Doth the ●●ght Man sincerely desire and endeavour after such a Perfe●●n as that of Universal Obedience to all Christ's Commands and yet still his Works fall short of his Desire or not overtake his Will how should that be doth not God hear the Prayers and grant the Requests of the Upright Yea sure they shall not want for any good thing who walk in their Uprightness and Integrity before him I cannot yet apprehend that the great Inconvenience which hath been charged as the Consequence of their Doctrine who preach up the Continuance of
bring Death and is the Ministration of Sin and Condemnation An. His Sigh Alas Sirs for us and Consequence upon us are both groundless and the Consequence of his own Mistake still as that we are ready to return into a Jewish or Natural Bondage o seek Life from that only which can bring Death c. this hath no Truth in it we neither seek Life from the Letter which killeth nor from any Ministration without the Spirit nor are we Ministers of the Letter nor do we sow to the Flesh but Ministers of the Gospel of the Spirit and of the New Testament knowing that 't is the Spirit that giveth Life And if ye through the Spirit do mortifie the Deeds of the Flesh or the Fruits thereof which are corrupt then shall ye live Sect. XVIII Object page 31. His other Consequence of our Doctrine is of Evils more secret and spiritual much more deadly to the Soul then their ordinary Sins as Persons wrought over to us immediately to look on all others at a distance even to a Contempt of the most grave serious holy Professors but as Men altogether in the Dark without Light or Life to be separated from c. as also Insolence and in finite Presumption falling into the Condemnation of the Devil Pride spiritual Pride the most damnable Pride proud of God's Grace Monstrous overweening Conceit of a Man's Self despising continually censuring and setting at nought of others c. An. These are sad Inferences we have enough of them he should have spared such censuring whilest he is opposing others for contemning and censuring but these are no wayes deducible either from our Doctrine or Testimony which is for a sincere Obedience and real Conformity to Christ Jesus and following of his Steps who left no such Example as either spiritual Pride Insolence Presumption or Self-conceit but of Meekness and Humility ●et gave true and severe Judgement against Hypocrites As for the Prudent the sober and pious among us whom he mentions they see no such Consequence of our Doctrine as this man suggests nor any Cause to mourn for any natural Effects of our Testimony but rather for their Miscarriages and Abuses who are disobedient to the Truth thereof and for such Professors as undervalue pervert and misrepresent that holy Testimony which God hath committed unto us they are at a real Distance from us and far from being the most grave ●erions or holy Professors It 's true as he saith That the Way of Christians is to be humble to debase themselves to make self of no Reputation after the Example of their Lord and Master and as he saith to live altogether on Dependence upon God each Man in Lowliness of Mind c. An. This is the Christianity and Perfection we aim at and bear witness unto and which many are pressing towards and what better what more pure and perfect ●tate is desirable then to live altogether on Dependence upon God But how well this Man 's opposing our Doctrine of Perfection and living without Sin agrees with his Concession of living altogether on Dependence upon God let the serious Reader judge Object Last of all there is that exceeding Danger in the entertainment of that Opinion that I am afraid at my Heart it cannot consist with the Grace of God and Justification of a Sinner by Christ it is a high Text that if you be circumcised Christ shall profit you nothing I am really afraid at my very Heart Sirs lest your Case be the very same in Effect with these viz. that of the Galatians and Jews which was a looking to the Law only for Righteousness not to the chief End of it which was through Conviction of Sin to drive them to God for his Pardon An. 1st Friend this Fear of thine appears a very dark and groundless Fear for first hast thou not confest that such a Perfection as to live without sin is our Duty 2dly That it is not impossible but that it is possible to attain this state of keeping God's Commandments and being without sin by Grace or the special Assistance of God's spirit page 6 7. 3dly That the Quakers ascribe not to themselves but to the spirit the Life the Power or to Christ within all that they do page 8. Well said come on enough to clear the Quakers from giving the occasion of such a Fear concerning them do not let such a Fear lie upon thy Heart for their Case is far enough from that of the Galatians and Jews who sought to be made perfect in the Flesh set up their own Righteousness being gone from the Spirit and Law of Life within into the Letter and Ministration of Death without whereas the Quakers Obedience through the Spirit the Life or Power of Christ within is no Self-righteousness nor Fleshly Perfection fetched or sought from the Letter without but very well both consistant with and springing from the Grace of God the Pardon and Justification of a Sinner by Christ who is the Author of Eternal Salvation to all them that obey him and is only the Righteousness and Justification of such who believe in him obey him and walk sincerely before him Object But you have taken up an Opinion that the whole Law must be kept That 's a Mistake that you must live without sin and unless you come up to this Pitch you cannot be saved An. First It is not our Opinion that the whole Law must be kept but 〈◊〉 much of it as God requires that is what concerns the New Covenant wherein God doth both pardon and take away Sin 2 dly to ●●ve without iSn is required in the New Covenant and is the Effect of Christ's saving Work who was called JESUS for this Cause and to fulfil this Promise namely He shall save his People from their sins and this no wayes hinders our acknowledging him to be our Advocate nor yet opposeth that Saying If any Man sin we have an Advocate with the Father even Jesus Christ the Righteous through whom both Pardon and Deliverance out of sin is obtained for If any Man sin is no positive Conclusion that every Man sinneth or that none of God's People live without Sin but rather implies that though it be possible that some may si● ●et they may be holpen preserved out of it there are or may become that do not sin for If any man sin is not that every Man doth sin As for These Friends meaning Quakers being at the Bar of the Gospel they see no Cause either to look upon themselves as declining the Grace of the Gospel or to have forfeited their Interest in that Freedom which belongs to honest Christian Folks through thy Redemption that is in Christ Jesus whatever this Man hath insinuated against them or charged upon them to the contrary nor will they appeal from thes● Terms under which they are brought by Christ or from the Terms of the Gospel to the Terms of the Law neither will they be judged by this Man's Consequences what Foolishness soever he therein chargeth upon them The Danger he surmiseth the sincere Quaker sears not nor are we who are called Quakers doubtful what shall become of us before the great Tribunal of God while we have the Testimony of a good Conscience holding our Integrity and abiding in Christ Jesus the Son of the Father's Love in whom we have Access with Boldness unto the Throne of Grace knowing also that he that abides in Christ sinneth not and if our Heart condemn us not then have we Confidence towards God near is he that justifieth who shall condemn who shall lay any thing to the Charge of God's Elect It is God that justifieth unto whom it is said thy People shall be all Righteous Finished London the 3d. of the 12th Moneth 1674. G. W. THE END Pag. 3 4. Pag. 5. pag. 6. pag. 7. pag. 6. pag. 8. pag. 8 9. Concess pag. 8 9. pag. 10 pag. 12. pag. 12 13. page 14. Luke 16. 10. see also Mat. 5 10. A plain Concession to truth pag. 14. pag. 15. pag ibid. page 18. page 18. page 18 19. And what he cites is also true viz. De. Peccato ad Mortem quoniam non expr●ssum est possu●t diversa sentiri ego autem dico id esse Peccatum Fid●m quae per Dilectionem operatur d●serere usque ad Mortem Concerning Sin unto Death because it is not express●d d●vers Things may be thought of it but I say that sin is this to desert or never come up to that Faith which worketh by Love unto Death August de Con. et Gra. chap. 12. Concess page 19. Col. 1. 21 22. page 24. 1 Pet. 3. 18. Con●ess pag. 26. Concess pag. 26. pag. 27. Rom. 7 Concession to Truth 1 John 1. 7. pag. 29. Rom. 6. 4 5 6 7 11 15 22. 5. 17 20 21. His other Excuse for their divines pag. 29. Though 't is trnc herein this Author seems to d●sown them by ●nfessing a Possibility to live without sin through the assistance of God's holy Spirit page 7 8. yet this Man bord●rs too near their Doctrine for sin in not believing nor confessing to any of the Saints keeping Christ's Commandments or their perfect Obedience but in arguing for the contrary which reflects Sin and Imperfection on all the Saints of God and true Christians pag. 29 30. A supposed Objection yet not inconsistant with our Principle * Contrary to 1 John 4. 17 18. This is a plain Untruth Concess to Truth page 32. page 32. page 33.