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A12284 A censure upon the dialogue of the Anabaptists intituled, A description of what God hath predestinated concerning man ... By Henry Ainsworth. Ainsworth, Henry, 1571-1622? 1623 (1623) STC 226; ESTC S100100 65,025 70

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haue it in part as they haue knowledge faith and other vertues here in part which shall be perfected in the life to come And if no more be required his fruitlesse dispute is at an end and it is worthlesse labour to answer words of winde Of Originall sin THe Anabaptists hold more erroneously then the very papists that Originall sin is an idle terme and that there is no such thing as men intend by the word In this their Dialogue they set the state of the Question thus Of the Originall estate of mankinde Wherein they speak doubtfully and deceitfully For mans originall estate is properly that described in Gen. 1 which was by creation very good But since the fall of Adam our originall estate is through that fall become sinfull and miserable and is so acknowledged by David Psal. 51.5 by Iob Iob. 14.4 by Paul Rom. 5 12 c. Eph●s 2.3 and by Ch●ist himselfe Ioh. 3 3 5 6. Notwithstanding these adversaties affirme That no infant whatsoever is in the estate of condemnation of hell with the wicked Which they thinke to proue thus Without sin there is no condemnation Rom. 6 23. Ez●k 18 4 20 Without transgression of the Law there is no sin 1 Ioh. 3 4 Rom. 5 13. Therefore if infants haue transgressed no law there is no condemnation them Answ. The conclusion which implyeth that infants are not transgressers of Gods law is denyed The Apostle teacheth us That by one man sin entered into the world and death by sinne and so death passed upon all men for that all haue sinned and by one mans disobedience many were made sinners Rom. 5 12 19. Note also how th●se men thwart ●h●mselues before when they pleaded for falling from grace one of their reasons was If the elect cannot fall out of Gods f●vour then did not all fall in Adam and th●n s●me were never dead in sinnes and trespasses and so need not Christs redemption c. Now they plead that no infants are sinners which if it be so then many as all that die infants never fell in Adam nor needed Christs redemption And so such shall either not come into heaven or shall come thither other wayes then by Christ contrary to Iob. 14 6 Act. 4 12. But these en●mies dispute against the Apostles doctrine thus Infants had no l●fe nor being at that time when the law was given to A●am and the law is given to them that know it and hath dominion over a man as long as he liv●th Therefore infants having no being and so no knowledge nor being then living that Law had no dominion over them Answ. First this is no more against infants then old men for no man had life or being at that time o●herwise then infants had So Adams fall was for himselfe alone and ●o man fell with him for no man then had life 〈◊〉 b●ing but he And thus th●se lying spirits feare not to resist the Apostle who saith Through the offence or fall of one many are dead Rom. 5.15 by the offence of one judgement come upon all men to condemnation v ●8 ●y one mans disobed●●n●e many were mad● sinners v. 1● in Adam all dyed 1 Cor. 15 22. This Apostolike doctrine is as contrary to the Anabaptists as light is to darknesse 2 They hereby weaken if they could the Apostles Argument in Heb. 7 9 10 by Levies paying tithes to Melchisedek in Abraham for a man might cavill that Levi had no life nor being at that time But Paul saith he was in the loines of his father Abraham when Melchisedek met him So say I we all were in the loines of our father Adam when he transgressed If then Levi payd tithes when Abraham did we all brake Gods law when Adam did 3 They hereby weaken as they can the Apostles proofe of our redemption by Christ for he saith that Adam is the figure of Christ that was to come and if through the offence of one many bee dead much more th● gift ●y grace by one man Iesus Christ hath abounded unto many and as by one mans disobedience many be made sinners so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous Rom. ● 14.15 19. Now take away the first namely the transgression of all men in Adam and it overthroweth the latter to weet the righteousnesse and salvation of the world by Christ. 4 They abuse the Apostles words in Rom. 7.1 whence they would proue that the Law given to Adam was given to them onely that knew it namely to Adam and his wife not to th●●r children which knew it not wh●ras the Apostle speaking to the Romanes spake to them that knew the Law the more to convince them he deneyeth not that God gaue his Law to Adam and his posterity in his loynes The Lord calleth those things which be not as though they were Rom. 4 17 he spake to Cyrus and gaue him promises before Cyrus knew him or was borne into this world Esa. 45 1 5 he promised the land to Abraham and to his seed after him when as yet he had no child Act. 7 5 he made a covenant with Israel not with them onely that stood there that day but with thē also that were not there that day with them Deut. 29 14 15. And if he did thus imply the children with the parents in other covenants promises how much more did he the like to Adams seed seeing Adam is spoken of not as a particular man but a generall so that his unrighteousnesse was not his owne onely but his childrens also even as Christs righteousnesse whom Adam figured was not his own onely but is communicated with all his children who therefore is the second Adam causing life as the first Adam caused death Rom. 5 1 Cor. 15. 5 Like vanity is in their next words Infants had then no being no life therefore the Law had no dominion over them For so they might elude Pauls argument of Levies paying tithes Heb. 7 9 10 saying Levi had then no being no life therefore he could pay no tithes in Abrahams daies But as the Apostle sayth hee was in the loines of Abraham and so hee payed tithes likewise we were in the loynes of Adam and so we sinned Again in Rom. 7 1 the Apostle speaketh of a man during life who when he is dead his wife is free from his law v. 2. If they will apply this to all sin and sinners then they think when a wicked man dieth the law of God hath no dominion over him any more so there is no punishment by the law of God to be inflicted on sinners after this life But do these vain man think by such sophistry to escape the damnation of hell Doe they not know that after death commeth judgement and that by the law Heb. 9.27 Rom. 2.12.16 Against the Apostles doctrine in Rom. 5. they alleage That we were in Adam not to bring any soule to hell for breach of that
command Thou shalt not eat for the Lord sayth All soules are mine both the soule of the father and the soule of the son that soule that sinneth it shall dye The son shall not beare the iniquitie of the father c. Ans. First the prophet speaketh not in Ezek. 18.4 c. of Adam but of the later fathers of the Iewes which sinned v. 2. but Paul speaketh of Adam who was not onely a particular person as all other fathers in this case are but an universall man the root of all mankind and a figure of Christ Rom. 5.14 Againe the Prophet speaketh of such sonns as are just and do not such like sins as their fathers did Ezek. 18.5.14 c. but Paul speaketh of us all as we are in Adam unjust and sinners and guiltie of our first fathers iniquitie R●m 5.12.19 So these two scriptures the one speaking of actuall sinnes vvhi●h are eschewed the other speaking of originall sinne which we now cannot avoyd speak not of one and the same sinne or estate and therefore doe not one expound an other Thirdly the Prophet exempteth the good children which eschew their fathers si●nes from death Ezek. 18.9.17 The Apostle inwrappeth us all the sonnes of Adam in his sinne and in death Rom. 5.12 14 17. Fourthly the Prophet speaketh generally of the many sinnes which the fathers did and the sonnes did not Ezek. 18.6.7.8.18 the Apostle speaketh of that one sinne or offence by vvhich we all being in Adams loynes are guiltie Rom. 5.16 But to this they both agree the Prophet sayth The soule that sinneth it sh●ll die Ezek. 18 4 the Apostle sayth th●t all haue sinned to vvit in Adams loynes therefore death pa●seth upon all Rom. 5. ●2 Hereby all vvise men may see how impertinent a proofe the Anabaptists bring from Ezek. 18. that Adams sinne brings not any soule to hell For Adams sinne bringing sinne and death upon all and hell being the death vvhich is eternall it is brought by his sinne upon all his posteritie except through I●sus Christ our Lord they haue eternall life which is the gift of God Rom. 6.23 Further they answer and desire it may well be observed that mankind was onely in Adam in their bodily substance he is the father of our bodies in respect of matter but our forme and soules came from God he is the father of our spirits Heb. 12.9 Eccles. 12.7 8 8 that earthly matter was in Adam of which our bodies are made c. thus and no otherwise were we in Adam Answ. We obserue it well and obserue their error also It is untrue that thus to wit in respect of our bodies onely we were in Adam and not in respect of our soules no scripture teacheth them this but their own fansie For though our soules were not in all respects in Adam as our bodies were to wit materially yet in some resp●ct to wit formally we were in Adam both body and soule which I thus manifest Adam begat Seth in his own image Gen. 5 Abraham begat Isaak c. Math. 1. so body begetteth not body but man begetteth man and man consisteth of body and soule which are the parts that constitute a man So man that is the whole not part of a man on●ly is sayd to be borne of a woman Iob. 14.1 yea the 66 soules whereby figuratiuely is meant persons consisting of bodies and soules are sayd to come out of Iakobs thigh or loynes Gen. 46.26 and Levi in the l●ynes of Abraham is sayd to pay tythes Heb 7.9 10. Now the body without the spirit is dead and therefore cannot pay tythes nor do any action And in the place and case in hand in Adam all sinned all died judgement came on all men to condemnation Rom. 5.12.18 but the body without the soule sinneth not neither ●yeth nor shall bee condemned Therefore it is apparant that the scripture speaketh of men in Adam otherwise then in respect of their bodies onely so that th●se mens speciall observation is nothing worth Againe they plead As God gaue no law to Adam before hee gaue him a soule of reason and understanding no m●re doth he giue to any of Adams posteritie a●y law till he giue them soules of reason and understanding as in Deut. 11.2 I speak not to your children which haue neither known nor seen c. Answ. First the words of Moses to Israel to whom he propounded the law are not to be compared with Gods law given to Adam for the Israelites were spoken to personally Adam generally as an universall man the root of all mankine as before is proved Secondly the covenant of Moses law did also after a sort pertaine to their children which then were not Deut. 29.14.15 though it was actually taught th●m onely which were present D●ut 11. Thir●ly the sin which Paul treateth of and death for sin was in the world before Moses law which these men speak of Rom. 5.12.13.14 Fourthly let all they say be given them yet it helpes them not for I haue before proved that we were all in Adam as living men not as dead corpses and so had soules of ●easo● and understanding in him originally even as we had bodies eyes eares c. in him originally though after a different manner as before is noted Further they say God never purposed to execute on Adam for that transgression condemnation to hell in that hee purposed to send Christ betwixt in whom Adam beleeving should be saved If Adam for his own sin was not condemned to hell without remedy shall any of his posteritie be sent to hell without remedy and that for his sin c. Answ. 1. The question in the first place is changed which is whether Adam and all his posteritie in him falling from God deserved not hell for their sinne This they deny not neither can disproue 2. As God purposed not to damne Adam for his sinne so neither purposed he to damne Noah for his drunkennesse Lot for his incest David for his adultery and murder c. but to giue th●m remedie by faith in Christ. Will they hereupon plead that other actuall drunkards murderers whoremongers deserue not damnation or shall not many such be damned for these sinnes 3. Though all infants for their natiue sinne and all men for their actuall sinnes deserue damnat●on yet never was it Gods purpose to damne all without remedy For Christ the second Adam giveth righteousnesse and life to all infants and old transgressors that are borne of him as the first Adam conveyed unrighteousnesse and death to all his ordinary naturall posteritie Yea grace here exceedeth for the judgement or guilt of originall sin was by one offence to condemnation but the free gift by Christ is of many offences unto justification Rom. 5.16 They object that condemnation is for not beleeving in Christ Ioh 3 19. 16 9. Mar. 16.16 Rom. 11.32 Answ. First th● Apostle sayth the wages of sin is death Rom. 6.23 therefore the wicked shall be condemned
godly men which are in the true and saving grace of God may fall away and may loose their heavenly inheritance which they haue right unto This Popish heresie they haue not confirmed by any one Scripture though they pervert many Scriptures for a show to delude the simple The faith which we professe is this that the elect however through Satans tentations and their owne infirmities they are subject to fall from God and perish yet they are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation 1 Pet. 1.5 though they through their weakenesse sin and fall yet the Lord putteth under his hand Psal. 37.24 and the seed of God remaineth in them and they cannot sin unto death because they are borne of God 1 Iob. 3.9 Though of themselues they are too ready to depart from God yet he will not turne away from them to doe them good but putteth his feare in their hearts that they shall not depart from him Ier. 32.40 so Christs sheep shall never perish neither shall any pluck them out of his hand but he giveth unto them eternall life Ioh. 10 28 and the elect cannot possibly be seduced from Christ Mat. 24.24 They plead for their errour by 7 reasons The 1 is certaine Scriptures as Heb. 12.15 Look least any man faile of or fall from the grace of God Answ. This proveth not that God will suffer his elect to fall utterly from saving grace but warneth them to take heed to themselues in respect of their own frailty and Satans subtilty Though Gods election and foundation standeth sure 2 Tim. 2 19 yet we must make an end of our salvation with feare and trembling and must adde vertue unto faith and giue diligence to make our calling and election sure which if we doe we shall never fall 2 Pet. 1.5 10. Salt may loose his savour Mat. 5. Answ. It may if men be seasoned but with common grace such as God giveth to many reprobates Heb. 6.4.5.6 but saving grace bestowed on the elect is a gift and calling without repentance Rom. 11.29 Some that haue escaped the pollutions of the world c. may returne with the Sow to wallow in the myre 2 Pet. 2.20.22 Answ. Too many in deed doe so but they are swine not sheep of Christ they seemed to be washed by the knowledge of the Lord which they had but their swinish nature was never changed The Apostle in that chapter speaketh of hypocrites and reprobates which walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleannesse v. 10 which are as naturall bruit beasts made to be taken and destroyed v. 12. which are wells without water v. 17 so they never had saving grace Those that Christ hath bought may be damned 2 Pet. 2.1 Answ. Those are such as before I spake of which were bought of Christ by his offer of grace and their feyned acceptance of it but had they been in deed bought from the earth they would haue followed the Lamb and should haue beene without fault before the throne of God Rev. 14.3.4 5. Had they been justified by his bloud and reconciled to God by his death much more should they bee saved by his life Rom 5.9.10 Had they been of Christs sheep for whom he laid down his life he would haue given them eternall life Ioh. 10.27 28. And here note how these men would make Christs sufferings vaine for many whom as they think Christ died for shall die themselues for ever Where is now the justice of God that punisheth the wicked thems●lues and yet punished Christ for them without cause without fruit Such doctrine the Apostle doth abhorre Gal. 2.21 Some may tread vnder foot the bloud of Christ wherewith they were sanctified c. Heb. 10.29 Answ. Such were never sanctified otherwise then Swine that were washed whose filthy nature was never indeed changed otherwise then by counterfeisance and hypocrisie They that haue faith and good conscience may put it away and make shipwrack of it and some may leaue their first faith be damned 1 Tim. 1.19 5.12 Ans. Faith is not alwaies in deed that which it seemeth to be There is a temporary faith which falleth away in time of tentation Luke 8.13 a vaine dead faith Iam. 2 and there is a living faith the ●aith of Gods elect Tit. 1 1 this faith never faileth utterly for it is the seed of God by which we are regenerate and it remaineth in us keeping us from sinne 1. Joh. 3.9 Some written in the booke of life may be put out Exod. 32.32.33 Psal. 69.25.28 Rev. 3.5 Answ. Many things are spoken of God not properly but figuratiuely after the manner of men So God is no way changeable Mal. 3.6 Iam. 1.17 neither doth he repent 1. Sam. 15.29 yet is it said It repented him that he had made man c. Gen. 6.6 because in destroying the world he did as men when they repent So God is said to blot out of his book those wicked which for a time seemed to themselues to others to be written in his book but after by Gods rooting them out are manifested never to haue been written there for then they should haue continued there because the gifts and calling of God are without repentance Rom. 11 ●9 his foundation standeth sure having this seale The Lord knoweth them that are his 2 Tim. 2.19 But to the wicked he will professe I never knew you Mat. 7 23. The talent may be taken from him that vseth it not well Mat. 25. Answ. All that haue talents that is gracious gifts haue not true saving grace to sanctifie those gifts neither are they all Gods elect This therfore is no proofe of the question in hand The Saints at Rome that were justified by faith and had accesse unto grace Rom. 5.1.2 yet if th●y continued not in the bounty of God they should be cut off c. Rom. 11.22 Answ. This and the examples following are like to the former and teach Gods elect to haue care to continue in grace without which there is no salvation They teach also that hypocrites falling from God shall perish But none truely justified and partakers of saving grace shall perish for God gloryfieth them Rom. 5.9 8.30 and he putteth his feare in their hearts that they shall not depart from him Ier. 32 40 and if they depart not th●y perish not but are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation 1 Pet. 1.5 2 Their second reason is If the elect cannot fall out of Gods favour then did not all fall in Adam and then some were never dead in sinnes and so need not Christs redemption c. Answ. An ignorant cavill for the Apostle teacheth that God hath chosen us in Christ before the foundation of the world Eph. 1 4. These men speak of our state before Christ. Againe Adam and all in him fell from grace su●h as th●y had of God in creation but not from Christian grace from grace of election and redemption whereof
not onely for their not beleeving in Christ but also for their unmercifulnesse idolatries adulteries and other crimes Math. 25.41.42 Rom. 2.5 9. Secondly the sinne of unbeliefe cleaveth unto all Adams children as other sinnes and shall be imputed as well as the sin of lust or any other iniquitie Thirdly to beleeue is not in the will or power of man but is the gracious gift of God to such as he hath ordained unto life Eph. 2 8 Act 13.48 Againe they alledge that Adam by that transgression deprived himselfe of Gods favour in that estate wherein he was in paradise and notwithstanding the promise of Christ hath by his si● procured this judgment Cursed is the earth for thy sake c Gen. 3. Thus Adam brought hims●lfe and all his posterity the earth and every creature in it to vanitie and bondage of corruption Rom. 8.20 c. And in this estate are all Adams sonnes begotten and borne so that by Adams sin vanitie corruption and death went over all c. So infants haue originall corruption as other creatures haue Yet those that dye and haue corruption by Adams sinne shall not be cast into hell fire Answ. A felon murderer traytor that is apprehended by the magistrate imprisoned kept in fetters and affl●ction his lands and goods confiscate c. pleadeth he ought not to be put to death because he hath suffered for his crimes losse of liberty goods c. But will this plea saue him Even such is the plea of th●se evill men For all men being in Adam fall●n from God and traytors to his maiestie children of wrath seruants of sin and Satan because God hath cursed the earth for their sake cast them out of earthly paradise made the creatures subi●ct to vanity and themselues subject to sorrowes and miseries therfore they d●serue not to die in hell if these vaine men may be judges But we know the judgement of God is according to truth against all evill doers He telleth us the wages of sinne is death but the gift of God is eternall life through Christ Rom. 6.23 where eternall life being opposed to death sheweth that eternall death is the wages due for sin And what sin is is there that des●rveth not hell 2. Whereas they say Adam by his sin deprived himselfe of paradice it is true But if they mean earthly paradice onely they erre from the truth for by his sinne he was depriv●d also of the heavenly paradice to which there is no restoring but by Christ Luk. 23.43 Reu. 2.7 and as himself so all his posteritie that sinned in him Rom. 5. Thirdly so where they say all his posteritie were subjected to vanitie and corruption it is true but not all the truth unlesse they understand such corruption as Peter speaketh 2. Pet. 2.12 which is eternall destruction and then they yeeld the cause But they meane not so but corruption such as is in beasts birds c. wherein they goe quite astray For beasts and other brutish and s●ncelesse creatures are not sinners as all Adams children are Rom. 5 12.19 sin is not but in reasonable creatures onely as Angels and men Neither is any creature subiect to eternall torment but sinners onely Other creatures when they perish there is an end of them and of their miserie with them but they that perish in their sins haue no end of their miserie but it is eternall Math. 25.46 Mark 9.45.46 Wherfore they doe not well to expound Rom. 5. by Rom. 8 because the Apostle speaketh not of the same but of divers things and estates in those two chapters Fourthly take that which they say and it overthroweth them For how should Adams sin bring all his posteritie unto death but by their guilt in Adams sinne If it made not them sinners the scripture which they formerly alledged Ezek. 18. teacheth that the children should not dye for their fathers sinnes Now seing many infants dye daily it proveth them all to be sinners because death is the wages of sin Rom. 6 23. Gen. 2.17 At length they come to answer Rom. 5. with this perverse doctrine This is the meaning of the holy Ghost that by Adams sinne all his posteritie haue weak natures Rom. 8.3 by which when the commandement comes Rom. 7.10 th●y cannot obey and liue but sinne and so dye till when they are aliue without the law so sayth the Apostle vers 9. and thus is verified that all both Iewes and Gentiles are under sin c. Read on the scripture and you may evidently see that neither this nor any part of Gods word is spoken to or of infants Answ. This is not the Apostles meaning for he sayth not they haue weake natures but that all haue sinned and through the offence of one many are dead many were made sinners Rom. 5 12.15.19 which is more then weaknesse of nature and pronenesse to sin Secondly in Rom. 8.3 it is sayd that it the Law is weake through the fl●sh and so cannot saue any man vvhich vvords these men vvrest as if it meant Adams children vveak Which thing though it be true yet is it not that which is spoken of in Rom. 8.3 Thirdly vvhen the Apostle sayth in Rom. 7.9 that he was aliue without the law this contradicteth according to their sense the other scripture in Rom. 5 12. that all haue sinned and are dead The Apostle in Rom. 5. speaketh of things as they are in Rom. 7.9 he speaketh of things as they seemed to be but vvere not indeed Paul vvas aliue in his owne conceit thinking himselfe able to keep the Law as naturall men doe suppose they can But vvhen the commandement came to wit unto his knowledge and conscience then sin revived and he died How could this be seeing the commandement is holy just and good v. 12 He telleth us in 13 v. that sinne wrought death in him by that which was good So then he vvas sinfull though he knew it not before the commandement came sinfull by nature but not discerning this his wofull state the Law vvas given to shew it him for by the law commeth the knowledge of sinne Rom. 3.20 Againe saying in Rom. 7 11 that sinne took occasion by the commandement deceived him and slew him he plainly acknowledgeth sin to haue been in him before the commandement came this hee confirmeth in v. 14. saying the law is spirituall but I am carnall sold under sinne Whereupon he applieth the evills vvhich he did to si●ne dwelling in him v. 17.20 and this inhabiting or indwelling sinne is that originall sinne vvhereof we treat vvhich Paul for a vvhile could not discerne to be in him as all naturall men discern it not but count it an idle terme and think there is no such thing till by the Law he came to discerne it and to lament it Fourthly it is here to be observed how the Anabaptists ●grant all men haue weake natures and cannot obey and liue but sin and dye How commeth this to passe By Adams
was one and the same Answ. It is even a vvonder to b●hold how these men pervert erre and slander as if they had sold themselues to vvorke iniquity We teach not as the perversly speake that David sinned in being conceived and borne for these being the workes of God and nature are good But David was a sinner because hee was conceived and borne in sin as himselfe confesseth 2 They erre in saying the soule is the subject of sinne for neither the soule alone nor the body alone but the vvhole man vvhich differeth from both and consisteth of both he is the subject of sinne Neither doth the body vvithout the soule nor the soule without the body commit sinne but the man vvhiles the soule is in the body sinneth 2 Cor. 5 10 and as the soule vvas not created but in the body Zach. 12 1 so vvhen it departeth from the body it sinneth no more but goeth for judgement Heb. 9 27 Eccles. 9 5 6 10. 3 Whereas they alledge that wickedness● is from the heart Mat. 15 19 it is spoken of living men consisting of soule and body Madnesse as Salomon saith is in their heart while they liue and after that they goe to the dead Eccles 9 3. And vvhere they say the soule comes from God the matter of the body from the parents they lay not down the truth fully For though the soule is created of God and is not materially from the parents as the body yet the parents giue occasion to infuse the soule for vvithout corporall generation no soule is created and so the soule may in some sort be said to haue the beginning from Adam though not of any matter from him The essence of is of God the subsistance of it is from the parents from vvhom it hath the manner of subsisting in the body 4 Though the soule as it is created of God is very good as the body also respected naturally is good yet they erre in saying the body sinneth not till it be infe●ted with the soule by transgression of a law whereby they meane actuall transgression after it knowes the law For first it is not the body but the man of body and soule that sinneth as before is shewed Secondly the body is not infected vvith the soule but both body and soule are infected with sinne to wit that inbred and inhabiting sin vvhich came from Adam as before is proved from Rom. 5. And this sinne man hath both by imputation and inherence before he actually transgresseth the law Rom. 5.14 Psal. 51 for that which is borne of the flesh is fl●sh Ioh. 3.6.5 They notoriously sl●nder us that we should affirme the very matter or substance vvherof David vvas made to be sin Wee affirme no such thing The matter or substance we say is good as every creature of God is Sinne is an evill accident cleaving to the substance to the body and soule of man Of like falshood it is that we should affirme David to confesse in Psal 51. that the substance vvhereof he vvas made vvas sin Neither David nor we ever so spake So the Argument vvhich by consequence they frame touching the substance of Christs body that it should be sin is frivolous collected from a fict●on of their idle heads For if no mans substance be sinne as we firmly hold much lesse Christs After this they cast a stumbling block in the vvay and vvould haue us shew how infants that haue sinned and are under condemnation of hell can be reconciled to God but onely by faith in Christ Iesus and if they cannot but by repentance and faith then are they all left under condemnation not for any law that th●y haue broken but for their father Adams sinne Answ. That all haue sinned and are under condemnation is proved by the Apostle Rom. 5 12 18 how infants can be reconciled to God he also teacheth namely through the gift by grace by one man Iesus Christ Rom. 5 15 18. The manner if it be shewed I feare these men vvill not receiue it for they that haue so kicked against the pricks touching all mens fall and sinne in Adam how should they receiue the doctrine of restauration by Christ. Howbeit I will indevour to shew it if it doe no good to them it may to others 1 The faith and repentance vvhich they require in infants namely actuall is not to be found as such actuall sinnes are not found in them as are in older men The one of these exemplifieth the other as the first Adam figured the second Rom. 5 14. By the first Adam vve haue sin Rom. 5 12 offence v. 15 disobedience v. 19 ●udgement v. 16 death v. 14 condemnation v. 16. By the second Adam Christ we haue grace the gift by grace v. 15 the gift of righteousnesse v. 17 the free gift to justification v. 16 even to justification of life v 18. By the first Adam vve haue three evils 1 imputation of his sin 2 corruption of our nature 3 guiltinesse of death temporary and eternall By the second Adam vve haue three opposite good things 1 imputation of his righteousnesse 2 regeneration or renewing of our nature 3 and deliverance from death temporary and eternall As the corruption or viciousnesse that vve haue by Adam is in the bud or spring in the beginning not in the full growth and inclineth us to all actuall sinnes so the regeneration we haue by Christ is in the spring and beginnings thereof vvhen we ●re infants and inclineth us to actuall faith and obedience And thus repentance and faith are in Christian infants in their bud or beginning inclinatiuely even as impenitencie and unbeliefe are in Adams infants in their beginning and by inclination If any man aske vvith Nicodemus how can these things be Let him consider that as he knoweth not the way of the winde or of the spirit or how the bones doe grow in the womb of her that is with child even so he knoweth not the workes of God who maketh all Iob. 3 Eccles. 11 5. Lastly to the many examples of Gods judgements upon infants as at Noes floud the burning of Sodom and Gomorrah c. they answer though they had bodily death for the sinnes of their parents yet they perished not with the wicked in hell For of this bodily death other unreasonable creatures as well as infants haue alwayes had their portions All fl●sh must die and death is losse to none but to the wick●d to the godly and innocent death and all afflictions of this life are not worthy of the glory that sh●ll be shewed Answ. 1 In that they grant Infants haue bodily death for their parents sinnes they contradict their own plea before from Ezek. 18 20 the soule that sinneth it shall die the sonne shall not beare the iniquity of the father c. for there the Prophet speaketh even of bodily death and miseries in this world vvhereof the Iewes complained And unlesse they confess● that infants are sinners in
their parents they cannot maintaine the justice of God for killing infants and that oftentimes with strange and horrible deaths And if they grant that infants are sinners they cannot with any truth deny but hell is their due unlesse they be redeemed by Christ. And by infants death we certainly conclude that they are sinners from the Apostles ground in Rom. 5 12 14 6 23. and that for their sinne they may and shall be cast into hell unlesse Christ saue them is evident by Christs doctrine in Ioh. 3 3 Except a man bee borne againe he cannot see the Kingdome of God And that infants are there implyed is plaine because an infant is borne a man as Christ speaketh Ioh 16 21 and being borne a sinner Psal. 51 Rom. 5 must be borne againe of the Spirit or else shall not see the kingdome of God If it see not Gods kingdome it shall see the divels prison for a Limbus or third place will no vvhere be found And how these men can exempt wicked infants from hell otherwise then by their own fansies I know not ●he Apostles taught no such doctrine vvhen vvithout exception of infants they call the old world that perished the world of the ungodly 2 Pet. 2 5 and reckon none saved but Noe and his house Heb. 11 7 1 Pet. 3 20 21 and tell us that Sodom Gomorrha and the Cities about them are set forth for an example suffring the vengeance of eternall fire Iude v 7. But these presumptuous men vvill controll the judgements of God and tell us that which no Prophet or Apostle ever taught that all the infants in those cities suffer no such vengeance yea though God himselfe promised that if but ten righteous had been found in Sodom wherein vvere many times ten infants he vvould not haue destroy●d the citie for tennes sake Gen. 18 32. 2 The reason vvhich they vvould ground upon because other unreasonable creatures as vvell as infants haue alwayes had their portions in bodily death this reason is brutish and beseemeth not men For no unreasonable creature is a sinner as all men in Adam are sinners no unreasonable creature hath a soule immortall infused of God as all mankind hath no bruit beast shall be raised from the dead as all men shall both old and yong to life or death eternall And vvhen a beast dyeth it hath an end both of vvelfare and misery so hath none of Adams children What comparison then is there between men and beasts Where they say death is losse to none but to the wicked it is true And hereupon it followeth that seeing infants are wicked as is formerly proved untill they be made righteous by Christ and borne againe death is a losse unto them and a gaine to those onely whether old or yong which are made partakers of the grace and gift of righteousnesse by one Iesus Christ Rom. 5 12 17. Of Baptizing Infants AGainst baptising of Infants the adversaries first lay this ground Baptisme perteyneth onely to them that declare their repentance and faith to those Disciples of Chri●t that baptise them This appeareth by Iohn Baptists doctrine and practice Mar. 1 4 Mat. 3 6 and Christs disciples Joh. 4 1 3 22 by Christs commission for all nations Mat 28 19 Mar. 16.16 by the Apostles practise Act. 2 38 41 8 12 36 c. Answ. That baptisme pertaineth to such as declare their repentance and faith is true and the Scriptures alledged proue it But that it pertaineth to such onely is untrue and none of the Scriptures vvhich they bring doe so teach The infants of the Church vvhich cannot declare repentance or faith are also to be baptized as after shall be manifested That the practise taught by the foresaid Scriptures is to be perpetuall we grant and they needed not haue taken paines to proue it Infants say they may not be baptized because there is neither commandement example nor true consequence for it in all Christs perfect Testament c. Answ This we deny commandement there is for it in Math. 28 and Mark 16 necessary consequences from many Scriptures confirme it as shall be proved Baptisme they say is in that a good conscience maketh request unto God 1 Pet. 3.21 it is of repentance for remission of sinnes Mar. 1 ●● the washing of the new birth Tit. 3 5 c. If it cannot be proved by the Scriptures that infants haue their hearts sprinkled from an evill conscience haue repentance faith c. they ought not to be baptized Answ. Their argument hath onely a shew no substance of truth For first a man might frame as good a reason thus Circumcision is not that which is outward in the fl●sh but that of the heart in the spirit Rom. 2 28 29 it is the putting off of the body of the sinnes of the flesh Coloss. 2.11 it sealeth the righteousnese of faith which they haue Rom. 4.11 and the circumcising of the fo●-skinne of the heart Deut. 10 16 to loue the Lord c. Deut. 30.6 Now if it cannot be proved by Scripture that infants haue the l●ue of God in their hearts the righteousnes of faith the putting of of the body of sin c. they may not be circumcised and the●r circumcision is nothing If this be not a good argument to keep children from circumcision the other is no better to keep th●m from Baptisme Secondly Christian infants haue the graces they speak of repentance faith regeneration c though not actually or by way of declaration to others yet they haue through the worke of the Spirit the seed and beginning of faith virtually and by vvay of inclination so that they are not wholly d●stitute of faith regeneration c. though it be a thing hid and unknown unto us after vvhat manner the Lord vvorketh these in them Eccles. 11 5. Which I further proue thus If infants naturally are some vvayes capable of Adams sinne and so of unbeleefe disobedience transgression c. then Christian infants supernaturally and by grace are some wayes capable of Christs righteousnes and so of faith obedience sanctification c. But infants are capable of the former evils by Adam therefore they are capable of the latter good things by Christ. That they are capable of the former is before proved vvhere vve treated of originall sin by Rom 5 Psal. 5 1 Ioh. 3 and many Scriptures The consequence that therefore they are capable of the latter also ●o wit of Christian graces is thus manifested 1 Because the first Adam was a figure of the second Adam Christ so that as the sinne of the first Adam his fault disobedience and death for it came on all his children both by imputation and infection or corruption of nature so the righteousnesse and obedience of Christ commeth on all his children both by imputation and renewing of nature unto life and salvation as the Apostle compareth them Rom. 5.12.15.16.17.18.19.21 2 Because infants being by Adam sinners children of
not of Moses but of the fathers Iob. 7.22 Secondly the covenant which circumcision sealed was that the Lord would be a God to Abraham and his seed Gen. 17.7.10 this was the covenant of the Gospell Heb. 8.8 10 Rev. 2 1.3 Thirdly Circumcision was the seale of righteousnesse of faith Rom. 4 11 but the Law is not of faith Gal. 3.11.12 therefore circumcision was a seale of the Gospell promised a seale of the covenant of grace Wheras th●y say the new covenant is not made but with the one seed Gal. 3.16 it is true maketh against them for that one seed is there shewed to be Christ not Christ in his own person onely but Christ with his Church which make one mystical body 1 Cor. 12.12 Eph. 5.30.31.32 Now the infants of the Church are by the covenant of grace of the body of Christ even as by nature they are of the body and stock of Adam as before in the treaty of Originall sin we haue proved by Rom. 5 so that the new covenant is made with them also and therefore the seal of that covenant is due unto them now as it was in Abrahams daies N●xt this they goe about to proue That the covenant wherof circumcision was a signe Gen. 17 was not the same which we haue now in the Gospell because the Lord sayth it is not the same Jer. 31.31 Heb. 8.6 it is a new covenant that we haue under the Gospell Answ. It is no marvell though these men so often slander us vvhen they dare belye the Lord himselfe Neither doth the Prophet nor the Apostle in the places by them cited or any where say that the covenant vvhich Abraham had and vvhich vvas sealed to him by circumcision is not the same which we haue I haue before proved them to be one in substance by Gal. 3 and Rom. 4.11 The covenant spoken of by Ieremy was made vvhen God took them by the hand to bring them out of Aegypt Ier. 31.32 Heb. 8 vvheras the covenant vvith Abraham was many yeares before Gal. 3.17 Therefore the covenant made vvith Abraham by promise is the same that we now haue by performance and confirmation of that prom●se Luk. 1.54 55 72 73 Rom. 15.8 Againe they say though Abraham himselfe had the covenant of grace promised him by which promise he had salvation in the M●ssiah to come yet ha● he not the ordin●●●●s of the new covenant which wee haue and therefore none of his seed in the fl●sh could be partakers of that which he had not himselfe Answ. They grant enough to their own condemnation for if Abrahams covenant was of grace and salvation by Christ then vvas it not of the Law as before they pleaded for that causeth vvrath and damnation Rom. 4.15 Gal. 3.10.12 We plead not for the same external Ordinances or manner of outward ●ispensation but for the same substance of the covenant which was of faith not of works and so of the Gospell not of the Law as Paul teacheth us Rom. 4. Gal. 3. The Israelites Passeover of the Lamb and our Passeover Christ their feast of unleavened cakes and ours 1 Cor. 5.7.8 differ apparantly in the outward Ordinances So their bread of Manna from heaven ours of wheat from the earth their drink of vvater from the Rock ours of wine from the Grape in the supper of our Lord how greatly doe they differ in the outward things yet were they the same spirituall meate and drinke both to them and us even Christ as the Apostle teacheth 1 Cor. 10.3.4 So Circumcision and Baptism differ much in the outward rite and signe but not in the substance or thing signified Yet cease they not their idle contention but further say concerning us They speake untruely in saying that the covenant which this new is not like is that Law given upon mount Sina Exod. 19. not that in Gen. 17. Marke the words in Ier. 31 Heb. 8 Not like the covenant that I made with their fathers when I tooke them by the hand to bring them out of Aegypt which is mentioned in Exod. 3 not Exod. 19 then did God appeare to Moses and commanded him to take them by the hand and lead them out of Aegypt where the covenant is mentioned in ver 6 I am the God of thy fathers Abraham c. I am come to deliver them c. to bring them into a good land c. which promise was made unto their father Abraham Answ. The untruth and ignorance is in themselues that so reason For there was no covenant made in Exod. 3. Let the place be veiwed Though if there had then a covenant been made it were nothing to our purpose because Abraham was dead many yeares before and we reason of the covenant made vvith him and his seed whiles he lived Gen. 17. But in Exod. 19.5 c. treatie is of a covenant to be made in Exod 20 c. the Lawes are promulgated In Exod. 24 7 8 the covenant is made up and dedicated And that this was that first and old covenant which should be abolished as Ieremy foretold the Apostle doth plainly manifest For having shewed the promise hereof in Heb. 8.8 13 hee prosecuteth the same matter in Heb 9 shewing the differences between the first covenant and the second or the old and the new and how a covenant or testament must be confirmed by bloud and death vvhich for the new was by the death of Christ Heb. 9.15.16 and for the first it vvas with the death bloud of bullocks and goats vvherewith Moses sprinkled the people v. 18 19.20 And this was that action recorded in Exod 24 done at mount Sina Moreover obserue here these mens fraud Ieremy speaketh of a covenant made they tell us of a covenant or promise mentioned in Exod. 3 as if to make a covenant when they came out of Aegypt and to mention a covenant or promise made many yeares before with Abraham in Canaan were all one That which is alledged of the land of Canaan promised in Gen 17 8 is true as a type or figure but not as the maine thing there intended For Abraham himselfe had no inheritance in the land of Canaan no not so much as to set his foot on Act. 7.5 how then did circumcision seal that to Abraham vvhich God never performed to him Is not this to make Gods promise to him vaine The Apostl● is a better expositor who saith that circumcision sealed to him righteousnesse of faith which he had before Rom 4.11 and telleth us how by faith Abraham soiourned in the land of promise as in a strange Countrie and looked for a heavenly citie and countrie which he understood to be figured by that earthly land Heb. 11.9.10.16 And if ●h● poss●ssion of Canaan was that vvhich circumcision sealed then Abrahams servants yea and all his sonnes by Keturah and all pros●lytes of other families that were circumcised were deluded with a vaine promise seeing none of all these had ever inheritance