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A89681 An apology for the discipline of the ancient Church: intended especially for that of our mother the Church of England: in answer to the Admonitory letter lately published. By William Nicolson, archdeacon of Brecon. Nicholson, William, 1591-1672. 1658 (1658) Wing N1110; Thomason E959_1; ESTC R203021 282,928 259

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and Aaron For is pride and prophanesse only in Prelates I shall speak a bold word and I know I can make it good that I can shew you many more Arch-Bishops and Metropolitans exemplar for humility and piety then you can exemplifie as notorious for pride and profanesse The birth of it in this land you intimate in these following words 4. Of which proud and profane Pest-house that Austin who was sent from Gregory the last of the good Bishops end the first of the bad Popes of Rome is reputed to be the father and founder in this our Land c. 1. OF Gregory I know what you bring is so common that it is in every mans mouth for as it is in M. Fox in the place you cite that of the number of all the first Bishops before him in the Primitive Church he was the basest and of all them that came after him he was the best Upon what ground the first part of this sentence was spoken I know not let them give accompt that said it For this is certain that he was a learned and pious father of the Church as his works testifie and the strongest battery out of the fathers we can make against the Popes claim and usurpation to his universal supremacy is fetch 't from him For he calls the title of universal supremacy by these appellations 1. Typum superbiae 2. Nomen novum 3. Vocabulum temerarium stultum 4. Superbum pempaticum 5. Jewel Cont. Hardingum Act. 4. Sect. 4. Perversum 6. Superstitiosum Profanum 7. Scelestum 8. Nomen erroris 9. Nomen singularitatis 10. Nomen vanitatis 11. Nomen hypocriseos 12. Nomen blasphemiae as Bishop Jewel hath taught me out of his Epistles Some men may perhaps esteem meanly of him for giving countenance to some then growing superstitions in the Romane Church but the commendation given him by two who lived near the same time is great The first is Isidore Arch-Bishop of Syvil who writes thus presently upon his death Gregorius Papa Romanae sedis Apostolicae Praesul Isidore de viris illustrib cap. 17 compunctione timoris Dei plenus humilitate summus tantóque per gratiam Spiritus sancti scientiae lumine praeditus ut non modo illi praesentium temporum quisquam sed in praeteritis quidem par fuit unquam Hildef de viris illustrib This is the testimony of Isidore which Hildefonsus Arch-Bishop of Toledo having cited not long after adds these words Ita virtutum omnium claruit perfectione ut exclusis omnium virorum comparationibus nihil illi simile demonstret antiquitas Vicit enim sanctitate Antonium eloquentia Cyprianum sepicutta Augustinum And though no question these praises of Gregory were hyperbolical yet they justifie the latter part of Mr. Foxes words that of all the Popes which came after him he was the best He that shall read his life in Paulus Diaconus will have just reason to have a charitable opinion of him that I say not his own writings yet extant proclaime him in the gate Before I come to his Legate Austin the Monk Juel Artic. 3. Sect. 24. necessary it is that I premise somewhat That Christianity was early planted in this our Island is evident by the testimonies of Tertullian Origen Chrysostome Theodoret which you may read in Juel Patric Junius Annot. in Ep. Clementis Dorotheus in Synopsi That Paul and Peter came hither and preached there are some Records some say Simo● Zelotes some speak of Aristobulus but that which is generally received and for which there is good evidence is that Joseph of Arimathea sailing out of France with his son Joseph and ten others travailed through Britaine and preach'd the Gospel there Vide Ephraim Pagit part 3. pag. 1. 2 c. Baron Annal. Anno 35. to which purpose serves that testimony of Gildas Tempore ut scimus summo Tiberii Caesaris radios suos huic insulae primus indulget Christus and Cardinal Baronius sets down the year of Josephs comming hither out of an Ancient Manuscript of the Vatican viz. the nineteenth of Tiberius reigne and the 35 of our Lord. Some testimonies also there are for the improvement of it in the next Century but the light broke forth clearest under King Lucius about the year 180. who consulted Eleutherus the Bishop of Rome and from him received advice 'T is the honour of our Nation to have had the first Christian King of the world he was instructed in the faith by Elvan and Meduni Lib. Til. Bal. Script Britanniae Cent. 1. pag. 17. Bishop Godwin Dr. Pitsae and with these he sent his own Embassadours Fugatius and Damian qui quibusdam ritibus ac solenni Episcoporum dispositione eandem formarent Ecclesiam And he erected three Arch-Bishopricks one at London and record we have of the particular Bishops that governed in that Sea A second at York A third at Caerleon upon Vsk in which Dubritius and Saint David were Arch-Bishops wirh others too long to name For four hundred years then and more that is from the conversion of King Lucius to Austins coming this was the state and government of the British Church but in the latter times much eclipsed by the incursion of the Scots and Picts and the tenth persecution under Dioclesian but more by the invasion and cruelty of the Saxons Beda lib. 3. cap. 6.21 22 24. c. when they were forced to retire and their Pastours with them into Wales and Cornwal The greater part of the Land being now again become Idolatrous and Heathenish this gave occasion unto Gregory to send Austin the Monk for their conversion which he effected in some part but the greatest part may not be attributed unto him since it is well known that Aidan converted the North parts Finan the East Saxons and the Mercians whose Coadjutors were Ceadda Colman c. These professed no subjection to the Church of Rome and deserve to be partakers of as much honour from our British Nation as Austin Him I shall easily grant you upon the credit of the Records to have been a proud undiscreet and cruel bloody Prelate Bale Fol. 35. Cent. 1. Bed lib. 2.2 but never that he was the father and founder of this proud and profane Pest-house as you called it in this Land I mean the government of the Church by Arch-Bishops and Bishops For it is evident that in King Lucius time they were instituted And before Augustins arrival Anno 522. at the Coronation of Arthur there was a great meeting of Lords Galfrid Monum lib 9. cap. 12. 13. Bale fol. 28. Princes and Bishops at Caerleon and that of the three Arch-Bishops of Britaine at that time Dulritius Archipraesul Primas Arch-Bishop of Caerleon did the Office of the Church that day being the feast of Pentecost This Arch-Bishops seat was afterward by his Successor Saint David translated to Saint Davids which so continued till the Norman Conquest Bale Cent. 1. fol.