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A04400 A discouery of the errors of the English Anabaptists As also an admonition to all such as are led by the like spirit of error. Wherein is set downe all their seuerall and maine points of error, which they hold. With a full answer to euery one of them seuerally, wherein the truth is manifested. By Edmond Iessop who sometime walked in the said errors with them. Etherington, John, fl. 1641-1645.; Jessop, Edmond, attributed name. 1623 (1623) STC 14520; ESTC S107746 83,433 114

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beleeue and acknowledge him and submit themselues to be informed by his word though they had not yet either true repentance or iustifying faith For they knew that such a beliefe and profession as made men meet for outward baptisme might be where iustifying faith was not and that both that beliefe profession and baptisme did but make a Christian outwardly as the outward profession and circumcision of the Iewes did but make a Iew outwardly and no better did they iudge or conclude of any but when they saw better cause Now concerning the baptizing of children which they say is no baptisme at all but do call it the marke of the Beast we affirme that the children of all such beleeuers as may themselues be baptized may also be baptized and that it is not nor can be the marke of the Beast spoken of but is true outward baptisme First to auoid many of their vaine and idle obiections and that we may come the more cleerer to the point let vs remember that it is sufficiently proued already that all haue sinned in Adam and that death is passed on all for that all haue sinned in him being polluted from their very conceptions and that therefore there is a necessitie of a new birth from aboue of water and of the Spirit as wel to the yongest man of dayes or houres as to the eldest man of yeares So that whosoeuer is borne of the flesh he must be borne again from aboue of the Spirit either sooner or later if he be saued and that although repentance and faith be the parts of this new birth and that repentance hath these parts whereby it is exprest in men of yeares sorrow for sinne confession of sinne and desire of pardon as we haue before defined and that iustifying faith which is the other part of this new birth be an assurance or full perswasion wrought in the repentant heart by the Spirit of the forgiuenesse of his sinnes and reconciliation with God in Iesus Christ as we haue also defined it I say in men of yeares who also do confesse with the mouth as it is written With the heart man beleeueth vnto righteousnesse and with the mouth confession is made vnto saluation yet neuerthelesse the true nature of both these parts of the new birth may be in another maner defined and still remaine the same in substance as the first part is called in Scripture A heart of flesh an humble and contrite heart a broken heart and Saint Paul calleth it the fleshly tables of the heart in which regard it is called the baptisme of water and the birth of water which we define thus namely that it is a speciall effect or working of the holy Ghost whereby the heart which is naturally hard and stubburne euen from the birth is made soft and tender as water or as flesh is in comparison of a stone that so it may receiue the impression of the grace and loue of God The second part which is called the baptisme of the holy Ghost and the birth of the Spirit we define to be a speciall gift of the Spirit also but more excellent which writeth and sealeth in the soft and tender heart of flesh grace and peace from God in Christ and filleth it with heauenly comfort and ioy like vnto that which is said of Iohn being in his mothers womb when the voice of the salutation of Mary sounded in the eares of Elizabeth The babe leaped in her womb for ioy which doubtlesse was caused by the Spirit of Christ in the soule of the child Now in this sort children are capable of both the parts and so of the whole new birth which in them is no other in nature but the very same which is in men of yeares though it be not outwardly so exprest as we may perceiue by the words of Paul to the faithfull of the Church of Corinth Forasmuch saith he as ye are manifestly declared to be the Epistle of Christ ministred by vs written not with inke but with the Spirit of the liuing God not in tables of stone but in the fleshly tables of the heart For as the law of death was written in tables of stone and all the hard and stonie hearts of the whole posteritie of Adam not onely might but also did and doe receiue euen in their very conceptions a deepe impression thereof so on the contrary the law of the Spirit of life which is in Christ Iesus euer was is and is to be written in hearts of flesh soft and tender hearts and in no other And therefore it was that God did promise to take away from his elect the hard and stonie heart and to giue them a heart of flesh an humble and broken heart because his pleasure and promise is to dwell with such to reuiue and comfort them and no other And to speake plainly howsoeuer perhaps some doe otherwise conceiue it is not our act of beleeuing that doth iustifie vs but it is the free gift of grace sealed in our hearts by the Spirit of Christ whereby God iustifieth vs which grace and Spirit is the cause of our act of beleeuing or faith by which we are so often said in Scripture to be iustified where the effect is named for the cause by reason it is thereby made apparent vnto vs as also in another sense we are said to be iustified by works because works do demonstrate and make manifest our faith to others as it is said of the primitiue Church of Rome that their faith had shined throughout the world meaning by works which are the effects of faith So that Saint Paul calleth the faithfull the Epistle of Christ not so much for their act of beleeuing as in respect of the grace of God which was written in their hearts by the Spirit of Christ by which they did now beleeue and crie Abba Father as it is written He hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into our hearts which crieth Abba Father And for this cause the grace of the Gospell is called The law of the Spirit of life which is in Christ Iesus These things being so what should now let that children may not be baptized Are they capable as we see of regeneration and are they not capable of the signe thereof May their hearts be sanctified by the Spirit of Christ and may not the filth of their flesh be washed off with water for the baptisme of water is bnt the doing away of the filth of the flesh as Saint Peter speaketh euen as outward circumcision was but the cutting off the fore-skin of the flesh representing the cutting off the sinnes of the flesh the circumcision of the heart as also baptisme doth For the circumcision which was the cutting off part of the fore-skin of the flesh and that baptisme or washing away the filth of the flesh we doe not say that the one was a type of the other but were both types of one truth namely the baptisme or purification of
of the Lord though they be inlightned and taste as much of the good word of God as either Cain or the Iewes did God vseth threatnings oft times to bring that seed which he promised to call to repentance he giueth them repentance he promiseth grace to the repentant in a speciall particular maner he giueth them faith also to receiue it he promiseth likewise saluation absolutely to these beleeuers he admonisheth them because they of themselues are apt to fall yea and would fall and perish if they stood by their owne strength if God did not sustaine them and had not ordered and disposed of all things for their safetie and wel being he commandeth them to watch and to pray and he giueth them his Spirit which helpeth their infirmities without the which they know not what to aske and it maketh request vnto God for them with sighs and grones which cannot be exprest not because they may yet perish but because they should not perish and for that they are weake and apt to fall and grieue the Spirit He also chasteneth them not for their hurt nor in his wrath but that they should not be condemned with the world And because God hath appointed them to be holy and so to saluation therefore he hath appointed all these things For as he before the world was purposed to saue them so likewise did he determine of the way and meanes whereby to saue them and the meanes is as certaine as his decree And Gods promises concerning life eternal to speake properly are not vpon any conditions though he doth seeme so to propose them to the world but they are absolutely free without any condition of our parts It is true God will saue none but such as repent and beleeue his Gospell bring forth fruite endure to the end c. yet these are not conditions for God giueth all these things to his elect as freely as he gaue Christ vn-them he conformeth them hereby to the image of Christ else grace and saluation were of due debt by desert which to teach is erroneous and Antichristian And although God did elect men in Christ from the foundation of the world yet did not the Elect fall from their Election in the fall of Adam neither did Adam himselfe lose his Election by his fall as they would infer thereupon for Gods Election was not of man considered in his innocencie but of men 〈◊〉 foreseene fallen and therefore they are said to be chosen in Christ who was to be a reconciler and mediator for sinners and not for innocent persons So that the obiection of them which say if the Elect cannot fall out of Gods fauour then did not all fall in Adam If the elect cannot fall from their election then haue not all sinned is very carnall and wicked much like vnto that of the Saduces which said Whose wife shall she be in the Resurrection who like fooles knew not that in the resurrection they neither marry nor giue in marraige So they being ignorant of the wisedome and foreknowledge of God giue out If the elect cannot fall from their election then haue not all sinned And are as bould and thinke themselues aswell armed hereby against the certainty and continuance of Gods election as the Saduces thought themselues against the resurrection when they came in scorne thereof to pose Christ But I omit their friuolous obiections as not hauing any collour of reason because also we shall haue occasion to cleere those things hereafter Thus as we haue said God first publisheth his Gospell and all doe enioy some benefit thereby many are inlightned by it and are made partakers of some common gifts of the Spirit but few are made partakers of those which are speciall and peculiar And this is the order which God doth vse for the calling sanctifying and sauing of his elect First after they are inlightned to know his truth he calleth them in a speciall maner to repentance then in the second place by a more excellent gift of the Spirit he iustifieth the repentant soule from his sinnes and sanctifieth his heart and then thirdly they being now ingrafted into Christ their head doe bring forth fruit in him as before we haue described And these are the plantation of God the trees of righteousnes which the Scriptures speak of God is the husbandman and this is the maner of his husbandry And thus hath he seuered and distinguished his plants from all carnal vnregenerate Christians vnder what name or title soeuer they passe or in what outward estate or Church soeuer they liue And blessed is that man that hath part with them in those speciall gifts and treasures of life for on such the second death shall haue no power Thus haue we proued that whosoeuer is borne from aboue of water and the Spirit Iustified by faith in Christ whose names are written in the booke of life frō the foundation of the world shall neuer fall away nor haue their names razed out of the booke of life againe And that God doth neuer alter his purpose or promise but that all his decrees and promises shall surely come to passe Their fift point That there is no Originall sinne but that all children of all maner of people in the world as well heathens Infidels Idolaters worshippers of Diuels all kind of blasphemers fornicators vncleane persons whatsoeuer as of the faithfull are free from all pollution of sinne both in the conception and birth and dying before they commit actuall sinnes are saued Answ THe truth is though to our shame and sorrow it may be spoken that sin hath taken hold of all the whole posterity of mankind and all are corrupted by a perpetuall seed of generation orignially from Adam so that euery child of man that is borne of flesh as well of the faithfull as of the vnfaithfull is by nature the child of pollution and wrath and dying vnregenerate perrisheth from the glory of God and from the ioy of his presence for euermore This we neede not now to stand to argue for besides the manifold testimonies of Gods word which testifie against vs long and lamentable experence hath sufficiently proued it and doth dayly proue it vnto vs so that we haue more need to mourne for our selues in regard of the euill that is sowne in our natures thereby and to weepe for our children also which are bred and borne of vs as Christ charged the daughters of Ierusalem to doe for themselues and for their children then to stand to dispute the points or once to question whether it be so or no. Neuertheles to stop the mouthes of such as doe deny it we say that when Adam sinned all sinned together with him because all mankind were then in him and therefore when God cast Adam out of Paridice he cast all his posteritie out of Paracice with him and when God cursed the earth he cursed it not to his person alone but all that were to come of him as well
if they should doe the least mischiefe any kind of way either against Christ or against any of his brethren the children of God which shall then reigne for euer with him how is it then said that al powers shal serue and obey the most High how are all things then subdued to Christ and put vnder his feet how hath he loosed the works of the diuell as the Scriptures speake If the last enemy be death and that death be once swallowed vp in victorie and it be fulfilled which is written O death where is thy sting O graue where is thy victory what is the thing then left that can doe the least euill against God against Christ against Sion or against any of her children which are now redeemed from all those former captiuities nay none shall euer hurt or destroy in all that holy mountaine and for that old Serpent vpon his belly shall he go and dust shall be his meate When Satan that Serpent went first about to seduce mankind by sowing sinne the sting of death in his heart he aimed not at his owne perpetuall torments neither did he intend to come to praise glorifie God for euer and euer as he shall one day be compelled to do these were no part of his thoughts nay but his aime purpose was to bring all men in subiectiō to himself to do him homage and seruice and so to depriue God of all his honour on earth for euer that he and his wickednesse might haue the rule this was his plot hee litle thought of a seed to come to bruise his head nay after the Seed was promised he ceased not for all this but stroue still to effect his purpose and he preuailed much therein chiefly by presenting riches honor and the glorie of this world vnto men so that when the Seed himselfe in person came he spared not to tempt him with the like baites but he ouercame him and hath in part and shall ere long fully vndoe his whole plot and cast him where he shall receiue that which he aimed not at and force him to doe that which he neuer intended and Sion which had been so long desolate and waste shall be set vp the praise of the whole earth and be established in righteousnesse and safetie for euer according to the Prophets She shall be farre from oppression for she shall not feare and from terror for it shall not come neare to her violence shall be no more heard within her land nor wasting destruction within her borders she shal call her walls saluation and her gates praise her gouernment shall be peace and her exacters righteousnesse all those that formerly despised her and the sons of them that did afflict her shall come bending vnto her and worship at the soles of her feete and shall call her the Citie of the Lord Sion of the holy one of Israel her Sunne shall no more go downe neither shall her Moone withdraw it selfe for the Lord shall be her euerlasting light and the dayes of her mourning shall be ended Reuelat. 15 4. Who shall not feare thee O Lord and glorifie thy Name for thou onely art holy for all nations shall come and worship before thee for thy iudgements are made manifest FINIS ERRATA Pag. 9 lin 13. 14. iust vpon reade iust vpon them p. 24. l. 23. principall reade principle p. 33. l. 34. braken read broken p. 34. l. 3 consideration read considence l. 30. perfection read protection p. 47. l. 5. points r. point l. 10. read Paradise l. 24. had eaten read had not eaten l 37. they r. there p. 51. l. 33. reade considerations p. 53. l. 37. proue read proues p 69. l. 2. that Church read that the Church l. 5. put out the. l. 32. be reade being p. 71. l. 33. read such as come in by the doore pag. 72. l. 23. successed reade succeeded p. 81 l. 26. he read her p. 86. l. 21. or read of p. 87. l. 24. leaue out a. l. 25 those read these Prou. 8. 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31. Reuel 5. 9. Rom. 8. 29 30. Prou. 1. 31. Hosea 13. 9. Ephes 1. 3 4 5 6. 1 Pet. 1. 2. Rom 9. 11 12 13. Math. 24. 22. Dan. 9. 27. Reu. 19. 11 12 13. 2. Thessal 2. 8. Math. 24. ver 22. Rom. 8. 30. Ephes 1. 4. Rom. 1. 16. Rom. 9. 7. Rom. 4 17. Rom. 9. 8. Gal. 3. 29. and 4. 28. Rom. 9. 10 11. ver 12. Ephes 1. 3. Rom. 5. 12 14 18. Psal 51 5. ver 7. Iohn 3. 6. Iob 14. 4. Rom. 3. 9. 5. 12 14 18. Philip. 2. 13. Rom. 9. 16. Deut. 29. 4. Ioh. 6. 44 65. 15. 16. Ier. 10. 23. 2. Cor. 3. 5. Math. 22. 5 14. Luk. 14. 16 17 18 19 20 21. Rom 8. 28 29. 1 16. 1. Cor. 1. 24. 26. Luk 4. 18. Esay 61. 1. Ezek 36. 27. Math. 15. 24. Ezek. 11. 19. Ier. 32 39. 2. Cor. 3. 3 4. Gal. 3. 26 27. Obiect Answ Mat 20. 10 11 12 13 14 15. Obiect Answ Ioh. 3. 5. Iam. 1 17 18. Rom. 9. 16. Reuel 13. 8. 1. Pet. 1. 5. Rom. 5. 10. Ephes 1. 4 5 6. Rom. 8. 29. 30. Acts 15. 9. 10. 43. Rom. 8. 15 16. 〈◊〉 29. Col. 3. 1 2 3. 1. Pet. 1. 5. Psal 62. 2 6 7. Esay 40. 11. Psal 23. 1. Ioh. 15 1 2. Ioh. 10. 29. 17. 6. 10 12 10. 14. 4. ver 28 29 30. Luk 22. 31. Psal 62. 7. 2. Pet. 2. 4. 5 6. Ioh. 15. 5. Luk. 22. 32. Math. 16. 18. Psal 16. 11. Ioh. 13. 1. Ioh. 6. 56 57. Ioh. 6. 47. Rom. 5. 8 9 10. Rom. 8. 35 36 37 38 39. Obiect Ezek. 18. 24. Answ 2. Cor. 2. 15 16 Rom. 16. 15. 16. Col. 1. 23. Mark 10. 15. Math 28. 19. Psal 19. Rom. 10. 18. Rom. 1. 20. Act. 14. 16 17. Act. 17. 27. Heb. 1. 1. 2. 2. Pet. 1. 19. 10 21. Heb. 4. 1. 2. Rom. 10 7 8 ver 6. Heb 1. 2. Rom. 2. 14. Luk 12. 47. Math. 23. 24 24 25 26 27 28. Mat. 5. 20. Ioh. 12. 6. Luk. 6. 43. Iam. 3. 11. 12. Luk. 6. 44. ver 45. Acts. 8 13. Ioh. 6. 66. Mat. 13. 20. Iam. 1. 8. Gal. 5. 6. 1. Cor. 13. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. Mat. 13. 4. 5. 6. 7. ver 8. Heb. 6. 8. Mark 11. 13. 14. Luk. 4. 18. Act. 10. 36. 37. Act. 26. 18. Mat. 3. 11. Esa 40. 20. 2. Cor. 1. 21. 22. Eph. 1. 13. Math. 11. 28. Esa 61. 1. 2. 3. Luk. 4. 18. 19. Luk. 7. 22. Mat. 11. 5. Mat. 21. 26. Mark 1. 4. Ioh 3. 5. Eph. 6. 15. Heb. 6. 1. Ioh. 3. 5. Mat. 11. 28. 2 Cor. 3. 3. Ier. 31. 34. Heb. 10. 17. Ier. 31. 38 39. 40. Math. 3. 2. Math. 4. 17. Mat. 3. 11. Ioh 3 5. Tit. 3. 5. Rom. 8. 5. Gal. 4. 6. Rom 8 15. Rom. 8. 2. Iob. 16. 13. Ioh. 16.