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A63227 The tryals of Thomas Walcot, William Hone, William Lord Russell, John Rous & William Blagg for high-treason for conspiring the death of the King, and raising a rebellion in this kingdom at the Sessions-House in the Old-Baily, London, on a commission of oyer and terminer held there for the city of London and county of Middlesex, on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, July 12, 13 and 14, 1683. Walcot, Thomas, d. 1683.; Hone, William, d. 1683.; Russell, William, Lord, 1639-1683.; Rouse, John, d. 1683.; Blague, William.; England and Wales. Court of Oyer and Terminer and Gaol Delivery (London and Middlesex). 1683 (1683) Wing T2265; ESTC R21861 139,903 84

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This is matter of Law Neither was there but one meeting at Mr. Sheppards House Mr. At. Gen My Lord If you admit the Fact and will rest upon the Point of Law I am ready to argue it with any of your Counsel I will acquaint your Lordship how the Evidence Stands There is one Evidence since Christmas last L. Russell That 's not to the business of Sheppards House My Lord one Witness will not convict a Man of Treason Mr. At. Gen. If there be one Witness of one Act of Treason and another of a 2d another of a 3d that manifest the same Treason to depose or destroy the King that will be sufficient L. C. Just. My Lord That has been resolved the Two Witnesses the Statute requires are not to the same individual Act but to the same Treason if they be several Acts declaring the same Treason and one Witness to each of them they have been reckoned two Witnesses within the Statute of Edw. 6. Sir Geor. Jef. If My Lord will call his Witnesse L. Russel This is tacking of Two Treasons together here is one in November by one Witness and then you bring on another with a Discourse of my Lord Howard And he says the Discourse passed for Pleasure L. C. Just. If your Lordship do doubt whether the Fact proved against your Lordship be Treason or not within the Statute of E. 3. and you are contented that the Fact be taken as proved against your Lordship and so desire Counsel barely upon that that is matter of Law You shall have it granted L. Russel I am not knowing in the Law I think 't is not proved and if it was I think t is not Punishable by that Act. I desire Counsel may be admitted upon so Nice a Point My Life Lies at Stake here 's but one Witness that speaks of a Message Sir Geor. Jef. The Fact must be left to the Jury Therefore if my Lord Russel hath any Witnesses to call in Opposition to these matters let him L. C. Just. My Lord There can be no matter of Law but upon a Fact Admitted and Stated L. Russell My Lord I do not think it proved I hope you will be of Counsel for me t is very hard for me that my Counsel may not speak for me in a point of Law L. C. Just. My Lord To hear your Counsel concerning this Fact that we cannot do it was never done nor will be done If your Lordship doubts whether this Fact is Treason or not and desire your Counsel may be heard to that I will do it L. Russell I doubt in Law and do not see the Fact is proved upon me Mr. Sol. Gen. Will your Lordship please to call any Witnesses to the matter of Fact L. Russell T is very hard a Man must lose his Life upon Hearsay Col. Rumsy says he brought a Message which I will Swear I never heard nor know of He does not say he spake to me or I gave him any Answer Mr. Sheppard remembers no such thing he was gone to and again here is but one Witness and Seven Months agoe Mr. At Gen. My Lord If there be any thing that is Law you shall have it L. Russell My Lord Colonel Rumsey the other day before the King could not say that I heard it I was in the Room but I came in late they had been there a good while I did not ●tay above a quarter of an hour tasting Sherry with Mr. Sheppard L. C. Just. Read the Statute of 25 E. 3. c. 2. My Brothers desire to have it read Cl. of Cro. Whereas divers opinions have been before this time in what Case Treason shall be said and in what not The King at the Request of the Lords and of the Commons hath made a Declaration in the manner as hereafter followeth That is to say when a Man doth compass or imagine the Death of our Lord the King or of our Lady his Queen or of their eldest Son and Heir or if a Man do Uiolate the Kings Compagnion or the Kings Eldest Daughter unmarried or the Wife of the Kings eldest Son and Heir or if a man do levy War against our Lord the King in his Realm or be adherent to the Kings Enemies in his Realm giving to them Aid and Comfort in the Realm or elsewhere and thereof be proveably attainted of open Deed by People of their Condition And if a Man counterfeit the Kings Great or Privy Seal or his money and if a man bring false money into this Realm counterfeit to the money of England as the money called Lushburgh or other like to the said money of England Knowing the money to be false to Marchandise or make Payment in desceit of our said Lord the King and of his People and if a man Slea the Chancellor Treasurer or the Kings Iustices of the one Bench or the other Iustices in Eyre or Iustices of ●●ise and all other Iustices designed to hear and determin being in their places during their Offices And it is to be understood that in the Cases above rehearsed that ought to be Iudged Treason which extends to our Lord the King and his Royal Majesty L. C. Just. My Lord That which is urged against you by the Kings Counsel is this You are accused by the Indictment of compassing and designing the Kings Death and of endeavouring to Raise an Insurrection in Order to it That that they do say is that these Counsels that your Lordship hath taken are Evidences of your compassing the Kings Death and are Overt Acts Declaring the same and upon that it is they insist your Lordship to be Guilty within that Statute L. Russell It is in a Poynt of Law and I desire Counsel Mr. At. Gen. Admit your Consultations and we will hear them L. C. Just. I would set your Lordship right for probably you may not apprehend the Law in this Case If your Counsel be heard they must be heard to this That taking it that my Lord Russell has consulted in this manner for the Raising of Forces within this Kingdom and making an Insurrection within this Kingdom as Colonel Rumsey and my Lord Howard have Deposed whether then this be Treason we can hear your Counsel to nothing else L. Russell I do not know how to answer to it The point methinks must be quite otherwise that there should be Two Witnesses to one thing at the same time Mr. At. Gen. Your Lordship remembers in my Lord Staffords Case there was but one Witness to one Act in England and another to another in France L. Russell It was to the same point Mr. At. Gen. To the general point the lopping point Sir G. Jeff. There was not so much Evidence against him as there is against your Lordship L. C. Just. My Lord if your Lordship will say any thing or call any Witnesses to disprove what either of these Gentlemen have said we will hear your Lordship what they say But if you can't contradict them by
so little concern for his own life to make this Discourse his ordinary Conversation No it must be a particular Consult of Six that must be intrusted with this I tell you 't is not the Divines of the Church of England but an Independent Divine that is to be concerned in this they must be persons of their own complexion and humour For men will apply themselves to proper instruments Gentlemen I would not labour in this case for far be it from any man to endeavour to take away the life of the innocent And whereas that Noble Lord says he hath a vertuous good Lady he hath many Children he hath Vertue and Honour he puts into the Scale Gentlemen I must tell you on the other side you have Consciences Religion you have a Prince and a merciful one too consider the life of your Prince the life of his Posterity the consequences that would have attended if this Villany had taken effect What would have become of your Lives and Religion What would have become of that Religion we have been so fond of preserving Gentlemen I must put these things home upon your Consciences I know you will remember the horrid Murder of that most pious Prince the Martyr King Charles the First How far the practices of those persons have influenced the several punishments since is too great a secret for me to examine But now I say you have the life of a merciful King you have a Religion that every honest man ought to stand by and I am sure every Loyal man will venture his Life and Fortune for You have your Wives and Children Let not the greatness of any man corrupt you but discharge your Consciences both to God and the King and to your Posterity L.C.J. Gentlemen of the Jury the Prisoner at the Bar stands indicted before you of High Treason in compassing and designing the death of the King and in declaring of it by Overt acts endeavouring to raise Insurrections and popular Commotions in the Kingdom here To this he hath pleaded Not Guilty You have heard the Evidence that hath been against him it hath been at large repeated by the Kings Counsel which will take off a great deal of my trouble in repeating it to you again I know you cannot but take notice of it and remember it it having been stated twice by two of the Kings Counsel to you 't is long and you see what the parties here have proved There is first of all Col. Roms●y he does attest a Meeting at Mr. Sheppard's house and you hear to what purpose he says it was the Message that he brought and the Return he had it was to enquire concerning a Rising at Ta●nton and that he had in return to my Lord Shaftsbury was that Mr. Trenchard had failed them and my Lord must be contented for it could not be that time You hear that he does say that they did design a Rising he saith there was a Rising designed in November I think he saith the 17th upon the day of Queen Elizabeth's birth You hear he does say there was at that Meeting some discourse concerning inspecting the Kings Guards and seeing how they kept themselves and whether they might be surprized and this he says was all in order to a Rising He says that at this my Lord Russel was present Mr. Sheppard does say that my Lord Russel was there That he came into this Meeting with the Duke of Monmouth and he did go away with the Duke of Monmouth as he believes He says there was some discourse of a Rising or Insurrection that was to be procured within the Kingdom but he does not tell you the particulars of any thing he himself does not My Lord Howard afterwards does come and tell you of a great discourse he had with my Lord Shaftsbury in order to a Rising in the City of London and my Lord Shaftsbury did value himself mightily upon 10000 men he hoped to raise and a great deal of discourse he had with my Lord Shaftsbury This he does by way of inducement to what he says concerning my Lord Russel The Evidence against him is some Consults that there were by Six of them who took upon them as he says to be a Council for the management of the Insurrection that was to be procured in this Kingdom He instances in two that were for this purpose the one of them at Mr. Hambden's house the other at my Lord Russel's house And he tells you at these Meetings there was some discourse of providing Treasure and of providing Arms but they came to no result in these things He tells you that there was a design to send for some of the Kingdom of Scotland that might joyn with them in this thing And this is upon the matter the substance of the Evidence that hath been at large declared to you by the King's Counsel and what you have heard Now Gentlemen I must tell you some things it lies upon us to direct you in My Lord excepts to these Witnesses because they are concerned by their own shewing in this Design If there were any I did direct some of you might hear me yesterday that that was no sufficient exception against a mans being an Evidence in the case of Treason that he himself was concerned in it they are the most proper persons to be Evidence none being able to detect such Councils but them You have heard my Lord Russels Witnesses that he hath brought concerning them and concerning his own integrity and course of life how it has been sober and civil with a great respect to Religion as these Gentlemen do all testifie Now the Question before you will be whether upon this whole matter you do believe my Lord Russel had any design upon the Kings life to destroy the King or take away his life for that is the material part here 'T is used and given you by the King's Counsel as an evidence of this That he did conspire to raise an Insurrection and to cause a Rising of the people to make as it were a Rebellion within the Nation and to surprize the King's Guards which say they can have no other end but to seize and destroy the King and 't is a great evidence if my Lord Russel did design to seize the King's Guards and make an Insurrection in the Kingdom of a design for to surprize the King's Person It must be left to you upon the whole matter You have not evidence in this Case as there was in the other matter that was tried in the morning or yesterday against the Conspirators to kill the King at the Rye There was a direct evidence of a Consult to kill the King that is not given you in this Case this is an act of contriving Rebellion and an Insurrection within the Kingdom and to seize his Guards which is urged as an evidence and surely is in it self an evidence to seize and destroy the King Upon this whole matter this is left to