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A43795 The interest of these United Provinces being a defence of the Zeelanders choice : wherein is shewne I. That we ought unanimously to defend our selves, II. That if we cannot, it is better to be under England than France, in regard of religion, liberty, estates, and trade, III. That we are not yet to come to that extremity, but we may remaine a republick, and that our compliance with England is the onely meanes for this : together with severall remarkes upon the present, and conjectures on the future state of affaires in Europe, especially as relating to this republick / by a wellwisher to the reformed religion, and the welfare of these countries. Hill, Joseph, 1625-1707. 1673 (1673) Wing H2000; ESTC R19940 128,370 120

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Authority will ever take away our Estates except we forfeit them through misdemeanors but when the Sword brings such a Commission I would gladly know who dare deny it And whether the poor man then that hath all his money in his purse-pocket be not both fafer in his person and more secure of his Estate than the rich Merchant whose bags and warehouses are filled with his wealth Craesus was rich even to a Proverb yet shewing to Solon all his Treasures Solon told him that if any came with better iron than he wore they would be master of all that Gold Now in regard of plundring depedrations and all manner of violence by Souldiers both to our persons and estates I think we are far more secure from the English than French And for this I shall appeal to the Common experience of all ages and places where their Armies have come which bear witness to the great exorbitances of the latter more than the other in the violation both of womens chastity and mens estates and frequent desolations by fire and sword Yea I will make their own Historian Comines judge of the controversie who having shown how unjustly great ones govern and the innocent people are opprest Lib. 5.6.18 both by them and the Souldiers whose flagitious lives petulant carriage and violent rapines are intollerable professes that he mentions these things for France's sake which of all the Principalities he had known was most afflicted with them Whereas on the contrary he says England excel'd them all in these three particulars respect to the common good the peoples freedom from injury and the little spoil their Souldiers and Armies made in their Wars the last whereof he repeats and enlarges a little after in the same Chapter 2. But we will suppose the best in all uncertainties and therefore hope we shall escape all plundering and violence from the Souldiers in a time of confusion and make no doubt thereof in a setled condition But yet we know we shall not escape paying such Taxes as indeed justly deter us both in regard of their greatness and also the arbitrarines of their Imposition In both which we know no people in Europe more miserable than France nor none happier in the contrary than the Subjects of the Crown of England Which partly occasioned that known saying of the Emperour Maximilian the first that he was Rex regum the King of Spain Rex hominum the King of France Rex asinorum and the King of England Rex diabolorum For he could have nothing but what the Germain Princess consented to Spain only what the Laws allowed him France all that he pleased and England nothing that pleased not the people As touching their greatness 1. I willingly grant that Subjects must afford their Soveraigns assistance and in times of extremity and utmost dangers it is hard to determine how far their power may not lawfully be extended Secondly I know that the grandeur of the French Court is great Politiicke Weegschaal l. 3. c. 3.4 5. which is lately shown us in our own Language That their Armies are often numerous and some always necessary both for defence of the Government from their domestick enemies and of the Frontiers from foreign in the adjacent Countries And that these require vast sums to support them Yet notwithstanding thirdly Moderation ought to be used so that the common people may enjoy the fruit of their labours But to shew how far the Government of France hath been from this would be an endless work We should but tire our selves to read what their own Historians have related and be weary with the rehearsal of the many tumults and rebellions that have arisen from their gabels It would fill any one with sorrow to hear of the great complaints and out cries that the people have made in former Ages and fright us to hear those of the present which yet their Governors are so used to that they count them but the old fa fa of France and oppression the sin of the old World What remorse of Conscience several of their Kings have had for their extortion is well known to those that have read their Histories Some in their life time as Charles the eighth some at their death as Philip the fourth who remitted the Taxes he had unjustly required and commanded his Sons to ease the people But above all Lewis the eleventh who resolved to reform but it was too late and therefore charged the Dauphin against that oppression he had practised And indeed it was highly necessary for he had reduced the common people to such poverty that many of the Farmers were forced with halters about their necks to draw their own Plows except they would steal and once for all stretch both themselves and ropes on the Gallows But I should not once mention any of these things if I thought it not better for us both to know and believe them before hand than experience them afterwards to our cost For I fear if we come once under the French there will be no end of paying contributions until we be brought into the condition of the Andrians of old Plut. in vita Themistocl ex Herodoto who when Themistocles demanded money telling them he had brought two Goddesses to require it perswasion power answered that they had two great Goddesses also who taught them to deny it which were poverty and impossibility And then the Hollanders may do that living Procopius decad 6. lib. 6. which Saladinus the Emperor of Asia did dying shew their winding sheets and say These are all the rich Hollanders have left But should we part with some of our Estates though it were a good share so we were sure to enjoy the rest it was less matter but when we are always obnoxious to an arbitrary power still to be squeased like Spunges at the pleasure of others we can scarce call any thing our own and are rather procuratores than Domini divitiarum I know well that some of the French Kings Sueton. in vita Tib. Bussieres Hist Franc. L. 15. have like good Shepherds fleeced not flead their flocks according to Tiberius his saying Boni pastoris est pecus tondere non deglubere especially Lewis the twelfth who therefore as the Jesuite well observes had no rebellion in all his raign which is a rare blessing as he says and extraordinary in that Realm And the great wisdom and generosity of his present Majesty puts me out of all doubt of his elemency but a good a great a wise Solomon may have a Reboboam to his son and successor whose little singer may be heavier than his Fathers loyns By which example in Sacred History we are shown that what ever Prince will force his Subjects to open their purses to his pleasure shall quickly find their hearts shut and though for the present they may supplicate and outwardly seem to adore him as the Indians their dieties ne noceant yet they hate him worse
shall be able to pursue them And indeed such is the growing greatnes of that Kingdome that it is become formidable to all Europe I need not insist on this the World is sufficiently sensible of it but it may be worth our pains to enquire into the causes thereof France formerly had severall boundaries to their Ambition which by degrees they have broken downe Severall Dukes on the one side that of Normandie Comines 1 6. c. 3. and the English after who for 400 years together latè dominati sunt in Gallia till Charles the 7. his time and that of Bretagnie till Charles the 8 gained it to the Crowne of France by the marriage of Anne Daughter of Francis the 2. the last Duke thereof and on the other side the Dukes of Bungundie till Lewis the 11. who after the death of Charles the last Duke slaine at the Battell of Nancey seized thereon and united it to the Crowne of France These three Potentates kept the French Kings continually under by their Confederations and Wars against that Kingdome Which Bands they having once broke they became at liberty to get more elbow-room in the World and become the largest compactest and strongest Kingdom of Europe were it not that their owne intestine Divisions and frequent Civil Wars hath often weakned them After France had arrived at this greatnes the following Kings Charles the 8. Lewis the 12. and Francis the first fruitlesly spent the Kingdoms strength in their Wars in Italy till Francis and Charles the 5. became competitors for the Empire and Spaine and France a fit match for each other in power Since which time such mighty contests have been betwixt those two Kingdoms as have filled all Europe with terror and amazement and all Historians with their Actions But how France hath so far prevailed as we see at present is partly by our owne and partly by the English fault we by Commission and they by Omission as we shall with what brevity we can make apparent in regard it may be usefull to us both During the reigne of Charles the 5. and Francis aforesaid the Reformation of Religion begun which occasioned great alterations to the Kingdom of France and to the Kings of Spaine in these Low Countries Wherein the Crowne of Spaine continued to prosecute their intrest in breaking downe the power of France by all means possible and especially by joyning with the Guisian faction which stiled themselves the Holy-League under pretense of opposing the Protestants Those great contests which the severall factions in France clothed with the glorious mantle of Religion are well knowne to those that are conversant in their Histories and are particularly declared by many but best in my judgement on the Protestants side by Beza the Author though not named of those 15 Bookes he stiles Commentariorum de Statu Religionis Reip. in Regno Galliae sub Henrico 2. Franciso 2. Carolo 9. Henrico 3. And on the Papists by Davila in his excellent Historie of the Civil Wars of France In which Contests in the Reigns of the four forementioned Kings the Successors of Francis the 1 and in the times of Henry the 4. who succeded them the Protestants called there Hugonots got into their Possession above 300 Garrisons and Forts in that Kingdome On the otherhand France was not asleep or awanting to prosecute their intrest in fomenting promoting and carrying on those divisions in these Low Countries to breake downe the power of Spaine into whose hands they had fallen by marriage as we have said and to remove the obstacle which these Provinces constantly were to their advancing their designes For which end they continually assisted us and whilst they pretended to fight our Battells at our charges they really fought their owne And lest the House of Austria so nearly allied to Spaine should afford them further assistance they ingage Sweden to invade the Empire and give the Emperor worke at home allowing A. D. 1631. Gustavus Adolphus 300000. Franks for levying an Army and a Million yearly for paying them every Frank being two Shillings sterling as in the years 1625. and 1635. they fathering all the Empire did on Spaine engaged us allso in more firme and constant Leagues against them This being the true State of those times between those two Crownes we therein thus doubly miscarried and erred both in our Civil and Religious Intrest First in that we thought we could never bring Spaine low enough nor assist France sufficiently against them In this blind zeale we went a great deale too far though nothing the length that France desired For had we listned to their suggestions we had to this day continued our Wars with Spaine and so have done their worke for them What arts France used to disswade us from peace with Spaine may be seen in their Historian Priol De Rebus Gallicis L. 10. as well as our owne concerning the Treaty of Munster But the States seeing the successes of France of whose greatnes they now at last and indeed too late became jealous to which they were the more awakened by the French approaches towards us in Flanders and taking of Dunkirke it being their owne proverb Aye le Francois pour ton Amy non pas pour ton voisin they resolve to take the opportunity which was put into their hands by Spaine who despairing of peace with France sought nothing more then to take off their confederates the Swede and these united Provinces especially by concluding a peace with us and procuring one allso between the Empire and Sweden For knowing their owne weaknes and great worke on their hands by the revolt of Portugall Rebellion in Catalonia the doubtfull condition of Naples the frequent losses they had received and their want of men and money to war every where they offerd us equall conditiors and we privately without the knowledge either of the French Plenipotentiaries or the Mediators Chigie from the Pope and Contaren from the State of Venice except them at last and a peace is made betwixt us at Munster January 30. 1648. and quickly after between the Empire and Sueden at Osnaburg August the 6. in the same yeare By which meanes Spaine was freed from our Wars had opportunity of Prosecuting theirs against Portugall and of creating France trouble at home by joyning with the Condean fact on in the greatnes of Mazarine and the minoritie of his present Majesty This peace so stuck on the Cardinals stomack that neither He nor that Kingdome have ever digested it but because we would not war for them any longer resolved they would war against us at last though if we had not done that too long they had never done this so succesfully Secondly we help forward France's greatnes and our owne destruction by helping to destroy the Protestant Intrest in that Kingdome For as France had the power of Spaine to keep them in on every side so they had allso a curb of the Protestants at home to check them