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A54202 Reason against railing, and truth against fiction being an answer to those two late pamphlets intituled A dialogue between a Christian and a Quaker, and the Continuation of the dialogue &c. by one Thomas Hicks, an Anabaptist teacher : by W. Penn. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1351; ESTC R25209 131,073 243

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that_o we_o be_v complete_o justify_v which_o take_v in_o both_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n past_a and_o a_o be_v inward_o make_v just_o through_o the_o cast_n out_o of_o sin_n by_o the_o just_a and_o holy_a power_n and_o spirit_n of_o god_n operate_n in_o the_o heart_n and_o conscience_n by_o christ_n righteousness_n whole_o without_o we_o i_o grant_v it_o that_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n be_v god_n free_a love_n mere_a grace_n and_o rich_a mercy_n declare_v in_o and_o by_o christ_n jesus_n to_o the_o world_n and_o that_o this_o grace_n abound_v unto_o all_o for_o he_o be_v a_o propitiation_n not_o only_o for_o the_o sin_n of_o those_o that_o believe_v but_o of_o the_o whole_a world_n yet_o the_o whole_a benefit_n thereof_o shall_v never_o redound_v unto_o any_o whilst_o alienate_v from_o god_n by_o wicked_a work_n peter_n preach_v another_o doctrine_n for_o though_o christ_n die_v for_o the_o ungodly_a yet_o they_o be_v not_o thereby_o justify_v that_o be_v pardon_v for_o sin_n past_a while_o unrepentant_a peter_n say_v repent_v and_o then_o they_o shall_v receive_v remission_n of_o sin_n 3.38_o now_o i_o will_v fain_o know_v how_o this_o repentance_n be_v wrought_v by_o which_o as_o a_o condition_n any_o come_v to_o have_v a_o interest_n in_o that_o great_a pardon_n hold_v out_o to_o the_o whole_a world_n be_v the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n unconcern_v in_o it_o can_v we_o think_v one_o good_a thought_n of_o our_o selve●_n be_v we_o not_o altogether_o degenerate_v plant_n of_o a_o strange_a vine_n by_o nature_n child_n of_o wrath_n etc._n etc._n be_v not_o this_o frequent_o confess_v by_o the_o professor_n of_o religion_n in_o our_o time_n and_o the_o most_o affect_a piece_n of_o their_o righteousness_n too_o well_o then_o if_o we_o can_v repent_v of_o ourselves_o and_o that_o repentance_n be_v a_o condition_n &_o that_o it_o be_v in_o the_o soul_n and_o that_o it_o can_v be_v there_o without_o the_o spirit_n of_o christ_n work_v it_o tell_v i_o plain_o if_o something_o be_v not_o to_o be_v do_v within_o and_o therefore_o of_o the_o nature_n of_o inward_a righteousness_n before_o any_o benefit_n be_v procure_v derive_v or_o receive_v from_o christ_n death_n and_o suffering_n to_o any_o particular_a person_n this_o be_v close_o to_o our_o point_n for_o therefore_o be_v it_o that_o we_o affirm_v that_o such_o as_o go_v on_o to_o transgress_v against_o the_o law_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o life_n and_o so_o disobey_v the_o light_n and_o grieve_v the_o holy_a spirit_n by_o wicked_a work_n be_v not_o in_o that_o state_n justify_v i_o mean_v now_o that_o they_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o forgive_v and_o least_o of_o all_o that_o they_o shall_v be_v look_v upon_o as_o complete_o justify_v that_o be_v by_o qualification_n and_o participation_n of_o the_o divine_a nature_n true_o and_o inward_o make_v just_o since_o it_o will_v be_v to_o say_v that_o by_o the_o obedience_n of_o one_o many_o shall_v be_v make_v righteous_a who_o notwithstanding_o remain_v disobedient_a and_o rebellious_a to_o god_n grace_n which_o have_v appear_v unto_o they_o we_o do_v say_v again_o that_o such_o a_o doctrine_n so_o speak_v peace_n to_o a_o state_n of_o sin_n and_o death_n and_o shut_v out_o a_o inward_a work_n many_o way_n necessary_a to_o the_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n past_a or_o daily_o acceptante_fw-la with_o god_n be_v no_o less_o than_o the_o doctrine_n of_o devil_n and_o the_o worst_a they_o have_v to_o propagate_v to_o the_o dishonour_n of_o god_n and_o the_o eternal_a state_n of_o people_n soul_n in_o short_a here_o lie_v the_o gross_a mistake_n of_o our_o adversary_n they_o make_v the_o suffering_n of_o christ_n which_o peculiar_o relate_v to_o the_o first_o part_n of_o justification_n remission_n of_o sin_n past_a to_o be_v that_o which_o have_v answer_v not_o only_o for_o sin_n past_a but_o present_a and_o to_o come_v so_o as_o to_o acquit_v they_o from_o all_o inward_a work_n as_o necessary_a to_o justification_n complete_o take_v contrary_a to_o express_v scripture_n rom._n 5.25_o and_o the_o great_a end_n of_o christ_n spiritual_a manifestation_n in_o his_o people_n there_o may_v be_v much_o more_o say_v in_o this_o matter_n but_o because_o he_o think_v i_o have_v not_o make_v a_o little_a for_o he_o in_o my_o book_n true_o entitle_v the_o sandy_a foundation_n shake_v and_o that_o i_o be_o to_o be_v short_a i_o shall_v proceed_v to_o dispatch_v what_o remain_v as_o god_n shall_v enable_v i_o to_o that_o answer_v he_o give_v out_o of_o the_o roman_n by_o the_o obedience_n of_o one_o etc._n etc._n already_o with_o other_o scripture_n explain_v and_o vindicate_v from_o his_o abuse_n of_o they_o he_o make_v i_o thus_o to_o answer_v he_o quak._n it_o be_v a_o great_a abomination_n to_o say_v god_n shall_v condemn_v and_o punish_v his_o innocent_a son_n that_o he_o have_v satisfy_v for_o our_o sin_n we_o may_v be_v justify_v by_o the_o imputation_n of_o his_o perfect_a righteousness_n o_o why_o shall_v this_o horrible_a thing_n be_v content_v for_o by_o christian_n penn._fw-la ibid._n p._n 25.30_o to_o which_o he_o return_v chr._n how_o now_o mr._n penn_n be_v this_o the_o doctrine_n of_o christ_n suffering_n for_o sinner_n to_o make_v satisfaction_n to_o divine_a justice_n a_o horrible_a thing_n and_o a_o abomination_n to_o you_o do_v you_o consider_v what_o you_o say_v and_o thus_o bring_v i_o in_o answer_v he_o qu._n this_o i_o do_v say_v that_o the_o consequence_n of_o such_o a_o doctrine_n be_v both_o irreligious_a &_o irrational_a penn._fw-la ibid._n p._n 16._o now_o that_o he_o have_v deal_v blaspheme_n ous_o with_o god_n and_o injurious_o with_o i_o as_o well_o as_o that_o he_o have_v give_v i_o no_o account_n of_o his_o thought_n upon_o the_o error_n he_o make_v i_o guilty_a of_o in_o case_n i_o hold_v it_o beside_o that_o impertinent_a question_n plain_o appear_v first_o he_o have_v deal_v blasphemous_o with_o god_n in_o call_v christ_n suffer_v god_n condemn_v and_o punish_v his_o innocent_a son_n etc._n etc._n which_o his_o censure_n of_o my_o so_o phrase_v their_o opinion_n manifest_o imply_v now_o i_o appeal_v to_o all_o impartial_a people_n which_o of_o we_o two_o be_v most_o to_o be_v blame_v i_o that_o confess_v to_o christ_n suffering_n as_o the_o effect_n of_o gods_n love_n thereby_o not_o to_o satisfy_v himself_o as_o a_o revenger_n or_o as_o he_o can_v not_o forgive_v for_o none_o of_o that_o be_v in_o the_o verse_n at_o all_o which_o yet_o be_v in_o their_o sordid_a opinion_n but_o as_o a_o god_n full_a of_o mercy_n forgiveness_n and_o pardon_n to_o all_o true_a penitent_n to_o declare_v to_o the_o world_n his_o free_a remission_n of_o sin_n and_o that_o he_o will_v not_o impute_v their_o iniquity_n unto_o they_o if_o they_o will_v repent_v believe_v &_o obey_v or_o t._n hicks_n who_o hold_v
that_o god_n condemn_v and_o punish_v his_o innocent_a son_n for_o other_o folk_n sin_n that_o he_o may_v be_v satisfy_v for_o pardon_n he_o neither_o can_v nor_o will_v and_o which_o be_v most_o absurd_a christ_n be_v this_o same_o god_n he_o at_o once_o make_v he_o the_o party_n satisfy_v &_o the_o party_n satisfy_v which_o be_v absurd_a and_o impossible_a beside_o it_o be_v such_o a_o satisfaction_n as_o have_v pay_v all_o debt_n past_o present_a &_o to_o come_v whereby_o all_o inward_a righteousness_n though_o of_o christ_n work_v be_v not_o necessary_a to_o justification_n in_o any_o kind_a second_o he_o have_v deal_v injurious_o with_o i_o and_o that_o in_o two_o respect_n 1._o in_o not_o state_v the_o doctrine_n true_o which_o i_o oppose_v and_o my_o word_n at_o length_n that_o they_o may_v speak_v for_o themselves_o but_o in_o that_o case_n perhaps_o he_o think_v he_o shall_v have_v be_v oblige_v to_o answer_v they_o a_o thing_n he_o every_o where_o seem_v afraid_a of_o his_o trade_n ●s_v cavil_v and_o 2l●_n in_o that_o he_o bring_v this_o passage_n which_o oppose_v suc●_n a_o satisfaction_n as_o be_v say_v to_o have_v pay_v for_o sin_n p●st_v present_a and_o to_o come_v to_o answer_v a_o scripture_n which_o concern_v justification_n and_o that_o part_n of_o it_o too_o which_o relate_v to_o remission_n of_o sin_n insinuate_v that_o i_o make_v man_n own_a work_n sufficient_a to_o justification_n in_o the_o first_o sense_n i_o mean_v remission_n &_o in_o the_o second_o sense_n i_o mean_v daily_a acceptance_n upon_o be_v make_v just_o and_o last_o that_o i_o overturn_v all_o the_o righteousness_n death_n and_o suffering_n of_o christ_n whilst_o in_o truth_n and_o sincerity_n of_o soul_n 1._o by_o justification_n not_o by_o another_o righteousness_n whole_o without_o i_o only_o mean_v that_o it_o be_v christ_n righteousness_n wrought_v in_o we_o and_o not_o our_o own_o which_o make_v inward_o just_o and_o which_o give_v daily_a acceptance_n and_o bring_v into_o the_o heavenly_a fellowship_n with_o the_o father_n and_o with_o the_o son_n the_o justification_n then_o intend_v by_o i_o 2_o lie_v since_o god_n have_v make_v his_o truth_n know_v to_o i_o i_o have_v ever_o understand_v christ_n be_v offer_v up_o to_o signify_v the_o carry_v away_o of_o sin_n the_o bearing_z away_o of_o iniquity_n that_o by_o which_o god_n declare_v remission_n and_o forgiveness_n of_o sin_n pass_v to_o all_o that_o repent_v and_o this_o justification_n call_v rom._n 4._o ver_fw-la 5_o 6_o 7_o 8_o god_n be_v not_o impute_v sin_n i_o have_v ever_o own_v to_o be_v the_o free_a unmerited_a love_n of_o god_n to_o the_o world_n and_o be_v not_o that_o justification_n by_o i_o speak_v of_o in_o the_o passage_n cite_v 3_o lie_v that_o which_o i_o oppose_v be_v so_o rigid_a a_o satisfaction_n as_o make_v it_o absolute_o unavoidable_a or_o necessary_a in_o god_n to_o require_v a_o satisfaction_n thereby_o rob_v he_o of_o the_o power_n of_o his_o free_a mercy_n and_o lovingkindness_n to_o remit_v and_o pass_v by_o and_o that_o christ_n do_v not_o answer_v or_o pay_v by_o the_o act_n of_o his_o suffer_v for_o sin_n past_a present_a and_o to_o come_v but_o as_o he_o declare_v remission_n by_o his_o blood_n for_o the_o sin_n pass_v of_o the_o whole_a world_n the_o beginning_n of_o his_o work_n so_o that_o he_o do_v by_o his_o power_n and_o spirit_n subdue_v destroy_v and_o cast_v out_o sin_n out_o of_o the_o heart_n of_o all_o who_o believe_v in_o he_o whereby_o their_o conscience_n come_v to_o be_v make_v pure_a they_o sanctify_v throughout_o in_o body_n soul_n and_o spirit_n which_o necessitate_v to_o good_a life_n and_o speak_v no_o peace_n to_o the_o wicked_a in_o their_o wickedness_n nor_o yet_o to_o the_o slothful_a formal_a and_o carnal_a professor_n of_o religion_n therefore_o such_o rage_n and_o imagine_v a_o vain_a thing_n against_o we_o that_o the_o consequence_n of_o the_o common_a notion_n of_o both_o satisfaction_n and_o justification_n be_v irreligious_a and_o irrational_a though_o what_o have_v be_v say_v may_v suffice_v with_o sober_a and_o impartial_a reader_n yet_o i_o may_v anon_o have_v further_a occasion_n to_o prove_v it_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n 52._o he_o tell_v the_o world_n that_o william_n penn_n in_o answer_n to_o this_o question_n how_o do_v christ_n fulfil_v the_o law_n for_o sinner_n say_v that_o christ_n fulfil_v the_o law_n only_a as_o our_o pattern_n or_o example_n s.f._n p._n 26._o in_o which_o he_o have_v do_v exact_o like_o himself_o for_o if_o he_o can_v find_v the_o word_n only_a there_o or_o such_o a_o answer_n to_o such_o a_o question_n or_o the_o matter_n strict_o contain_v in_o that_o question_n he_o have_v not_o wrong_v i_o but_o sure_o i_o be_o there_o be_v no_o such_o question_n and_o as_o sure_a that_o the_o fulfil_v of_o the_o law_n be_v not_o the_o subject_n treat_v on_o and_o very_o certain_a that_o the_o word_n only_o be_v not_o there_o therefore_o a_o forger_n that_o which_o i_o say_v with_o the_o scripture_n on_o which_o it_o be_v ground_v 26._o follow_v if_o you_o keep_v my_o commandment_n you_o shall_v abide_v in_o my_o love_n even_o as_o i_o have_v keep_v my_o father_n commandment_n and_o abide_v in_o his_o love_n from_o whence_o this_o argument_n do_v natural_o arise_v if_o none_o be_v true_o justify_v that_o abide_v not_o in_o christ_n love_n and_o that_o none_o abide_v in_o his_o love_n that_o keep_v not_o his_o commandment_n then_o consequent_o none_o be_v justify_v but_o such_o as_o keep_v his_o commandment_n beside_o here_o be_v the_o most_o palpable_a opposition_n to_o a_o imputative_a righteousness_n that_o may_v be_v for_o christ_n be_v so_o far_o from_o tell_v they_o of_o such_o a_o way_n of_o be_v justify_v as_o that_o he_o info●m●th_v they_o the_o reason_n why_o he_o abide_v in_o his_o father_n love_n be_v his_o obedience_n and_o be_v so_o far_o from_o tell_v they_o of_o their_o be_v justify_v whilst_o not_o abide_v in_o his_o love_n by_o 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