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A18484 The requestes presented vnto the Frenche Kinge and the Queene his mother, by the three rulers or triumuirat with an aunswere made to the same by the prince of Conde Guise, François de Lorraine, duc de, 1519-1563.; Condé, Louis, prince de, 1530-1569. 1562 (1562) STC 5042; ESTC S119254 23,946 64

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be declared rebelles and ennemyes to the kynge and realme Now would I aske of these lords who say they are so wise so gret frendes of the common wealth If their requeste tende not to take a waye all hope of agrement Seing they require that I and they whiche be with mee be declared rebelles ennemies to the kinge and realme For they say not that they which will not leaue of their armoure but that they which be in that sorte armed shalbe declared rebelles Which is an article that deserueth an other maner of answeare than by writinge wherfore I trust within fewe daies to go and meete with theym and dispute with them with the sworde whether it be meete that an outelandishe manne with a couple of meane mates such as they are to pronounce a prince of the bloudde royall and the two partes of the nobilitye of this realme rebelles and ennemyes to the king Neyther behoueth it them to vse the name and authoritie of the kinge of Nauarre to whom they haue bene continually deadly ennemies euen from the time of other kings They haue thrust him backe and kept him behind so muche as possibly they mighte yea in soo muche that they wold not make mention of him ne of hys rightes at such time as question hath ben as concerninge the conclusion of a treatie of peace They cannot say that he euer obtayned at their hande any thing which he requyred whether it were for him selfe or for an other They can not say but that when soeuer occasion serued they put him beside the place which of duetie he oughte to haue commaunded were it in tyme of warre or peace And for to make vp the matter in the time of king Frauncis last deceassed they made as little count of him as if he had bene the poorest gentilman in this realme and since they caused him by threatnings to come vnto them they caused that no man durst be so bolde as to go out of Orleans to mete him They forbed all knightes of the order and other gentilmen to vysite hym or communycate with him in any wise They sent a marshall of Fraunce with a bande of horsemen sore men to sease vpon his whole landes called in straungers to the spoile of the same as it is wel knowen to al the world And seing their enterprise broken by the death of the forsayd late kyng Fraūcis it is welknowen what counselles they helde to be faite him all together They continually so withstode him that he neuer could haue authority to cōmand The foresaide prince of Guise by the coūsaile of the Constable saide nowe a yeare ago that he woulde not departe from the court neyther at the request nor comman̄demente of the kinge of Nauarre The marshal of S. Andre said vnto him in full coūsel I wil obey the king and the quene none other And nowe they wyl vse his name for their profyte Whome in times paste they haue so naughtely entreated And they intende to vse the auctoritie of his name therby to destroy his owne brother And where as the foresaid lord king of Nauarre was so wel loued as euer he was they seeke meanes to make him hated of the moste parte of the nobilitie and people hoping that if they can wholly put him out of conceyte with them who haue so long and faithfully loued him thē they may well inough set him at naughte and handle him at their pleasure as they haue done in times past but the deceipt wherby they thought to come to their purpose is disclosed and wel knowen shal shortly be set forth and published throughoute all christendome to the shame and confusion of suche as haue bene the mynysters thereof As touching their request that the king of Nauarre maye assemble force to put in execution the things before rehersed they therin shewe euidently eyther great folye or a great desire that we neuer come toany agremente For seynge they haue determined to constrayne by force of armes them of the reformed religion to do that which they require they shoulde not haue tolde vs so before we had laide apart oure armes For seinge they haue so plainely geuen vs to vnderstande their purpose we wil take hede that we be not deceiued and wil not lay of our harnesse but with very good tokens ¶ Theye require also that certaine other articles whiche shalbe geuen by the court of parleament of Paris may be receaued wherin they declare the littel regard that they haue to the queene and king of Nauarre the kynges counsell And I maruaile greatly that at the least they had no respect to the sixe great wise personages which they placed in the coūsel at whose handes I doubt not but a man might easelye receiue good and notable aduertisement And I doubt not at all but that in the saide parlemente there be many good men who in vertue and knowledge represent the auncient integritie of the Senate Howebeit the thre peticioners haue taken so good order therin that partly by benefices partly by offices some sold and some halfe geuen and by other vnlawfull meanes and not to be suffered in this realme they haue made suche a number of friendes that the good mē be many times ouerlaide by the badde And concernynge this matter it shalbe sufficient to all edge that the legation hath ben twise refused folowing the edicte made and confirmed at the requeste of the states published and proclaymed in all the courtes of this realme And that whiche is more their refusall was grounded vpon their consciences and the conscience of the kynge And yet without loking for any other cōmandement but of a symple letter of the seale they haue receiued approued it through the sollicitation and practises of these iii. and their ministers Loo what hope we haue that wee shall there fynde good aduise and counsell ¶ By a remēbraunce presented with their requeste they desire that the townes may be rendred into the kinges handes with newe othe of fidelitye And they woulde gladlye as they dyd in the tyme of kynge Frauncis lately deceassed perswade the world that al they which will not endure their tirannie are the kinges enemies It myghte suffice the duke of Guise and hys brethern that they haue ones already had the vse of thys craftye inuencion to the greate displeasure of a number of honest● men Whereas to defende them selues against suche as ought them euil will they couered theyr priuate quarell with the kynges If anye manne were eyther by priuate or publicke iniury susspected onely to haue spoken euyl of anie of them he was streight waye emprisoned persecuted and by letters patentes declared ennemie to the kynge and to the estate And bycause this goodlye inuencion of theirs hathe once hadde good successe wherwith they hadde brought to passe greater matters if god hadde not put to hys helpinge hande they would nowe returne agayne to the same and although there be at this day no manne
wryte vnto them who had sent them that by taxinge the people and putting to death out of the way such gentylmen as fauoured and folowed y t reformed religion meane might be found both to encrease the kinges reuenues two hundreth thousand crownes by yere to furnyshe a thousand frēche gentilmen with houses goodes who might continuallye dwell there and serue as an ordinarie garrison of men of war This condition was wyllingly receiued well lyked and alowed to the great commendation of theym who were the authours therof And notwithstanding al demonstrations that the foresaid lady and M. de Oysel were hable to make that the Scottes coulde nat so easely be brought vnder yoke but y t if they wēt about to cōstrayne thē they wold put thē selues into the handes of strangers by whose ayde to assure thē selues of the whole they wold banishe the name and obedyence of the churche of Rome that therupō they shulde put in danger the estate so much as aperteined to the aucthoritie of the king queene Al this was mislyked reiected The queene was a good gentylwoman but she hadde marred all M. de Oysell was but a fole without all vnderstandynge because he wolde not lose that whiche he had by his labour and diligence kepte so longe In conclusion these gentilmen who se so far in a mylstone handled the matter so wel by their wytty deuises that the chief and greatest part of the nobilitie aryse and in armes ioyned them selues with their ancient and that I maye so say with their natural enemies And within short tyme dryue away all their priestes who might wel inoughe haue liued and continued in their estate if they coulde haue ben contente with a common peace betwyxte the one parte the other So that bothe the name of Guise the name of the churche of Rome was sent backe agayne on thys side the sea And so those folke which wold haue had all to them selues lost al. Hereof shuld the duke of Guyse and his brethern haue taken exāple and haue acknowleged the fault which he committed in putting the realme of Scotland in dangier shulde haue kepte in those wordes whiche so many times they haue rehersed and publisshed whiche are that thone of these two religions muste of necessitie be banished out of the realme of Frāce and that thone part must nedes geue place to thother These wordes are not sitting to be spoken of a subiect or seruaunt These are the wordes of a king being in his ful age auctoritie who hath bē aduised not onely by his ordinaries coūsel but also by the wisest of y t thre estates of this realme For in such a matter wherein cōmeth in question the diminishing of the force of a king of the halfe I speke of the least of his nobilite of the people which is able to serue we must not go so generally and roundly to work as wel because there is no king which feleth not as sensibly such a losse as if a man cut away the halfe of his limmes from his own bodye as also consideringe the daunger whiche shoulde ensue at the leaste at this presente tyme where as our kyng by reason of his tēder age ruleth onely according to the opinion and affection of an other man that this halfe seinge it selfe persecuted dyd not instede of departure and geuing place take courage and driue out the other And as concernyng the estate of the Romishe relygion they whiche go about by force of armes to plant the same onely in this realme put it in danger of dimynishing euery day more and more in that they tōmytte it vnto the force and defence of armes And it had ben farre better to haue kept the one the other in peace vnion not to haue disputed of these matters any other wise but with paper parchmēt not with māslaughter effusiō of blud which peraduenture hath prouoked the anger of god and called vpon his vengeaunce in suche sorte that the priestes and the other of their order who might haue liued quietly in their charges and enidyed their goodes shall be the fyrste whiche shal susteyne the daunger of the folly and that whiche is worse of the rage of the people And what soo euer come to passe hereof the protection of these gentilmen the peticioners can not but brynge vnto them a certain losse and the danger of an huge ruine For seynge they were once assured that they shoulde not be troubled or molested in their lyuing in their charges nor in their goodes they could not say that they hadde any occasion at all to complaine excepte they wyll take vppon them that they were moued with compasshion for the losse of our soules But how is it come to passe that they are lately become so carefull where as there is neyther byshop nor curet emongst them who can proue that he hath heretofore regarded theym any thynge at all Seing therfore that it was of our parte determyned that no man shoulde in anyewise trouble thē what neded you to name them in this quarell and to couer your selues with the name of them of the church of Rome Is not this the way to prouoke and kindle the one part against the other Is not this the way to make this order odiouse to the whole people which already is to muche offended with it Is not this the way to kyndle if god do not set to his helping hand emongst them which lyued in peace the lyke furyouse hate vnto that which was in Scotlande And what so euer chaunce therof seinge it is so that one of the two partes must nedes be banished that the petycioners wyl haue it so ther neuer chaunced in this realme so piteous● a spectacle as that is lyke to be Is there any profit in the world is there any commoditie is there any power yea and if it were for the king him selfe that ought to be bought so deare and with such a ruine and desolation What pardones what in dulgences what bulles of the pope can euer recompence the losse of the bloud whiche shalbe shedde for this quarell These thre peticioners may saye vnto the kinge sometime hereafter that in the defence of that which no man did assault in maintenaunce of the religion of Rome which no man troubled nor letted they haue caused him or would haue caused him to lose the halfe of his nobilitie and of the best of hys maiesties subiectes A man may and that according to the trueth lay to their charge that euen as with their fayned and false opinions they put the realme of Scotland in daunger of an euident ruine and were causers of a great and piteouse effusion of bloude so wyth the same opynyons the same purpose the same mynysters theye haue cast the apple of discord amidde this realme so haue instigate one against an other that these thre peticioners and their ministers shalbe noted to
posteritie as the onely authours of all the harmes and inconueniences which shal chaunce both to those that be of the refourmed church and also of the church of Rome Moreouer least they should faile to cause troubles ynough they require that all officers whether they be of householde of ordinaunce of iudgement of finaunces and others hauing administration or commission likewise prelates of the church shall make confession of their fayth And they which delay or refuse the same shall be depriued of their estates and pensions and the men of the churche of their benefyces These be three priuate personnes which make a law contrary to the lawes of this realme For it hath neuer ben eyther seene or vnderstoode that the kynges heretofore haue at any tyme constrayned their subiectes to make other confessyon of their Fayth eccept onely their ordinarye beliefe or Credo This lawe is contrary to the lawes of the churche I vnder stande of the churche as they do that is taken of the general counsells and of those auncient fath●rs whiche they allowe Wherfore he who endyted theyr request who is of so great knowledge shuld haue brought some example therewith to haue cloked his wycked pourpose the whiche in dede he canne not do excepte he brynge into this realme the inquisiciō of Spain The whiche was iudged so vniust of al other nations that not one emongest them all would vse or accepte it And yf I shall say the trueth this law is the trappe whiche they hadde sette at Orleans sumwhat before the death of king Frauncis lately deceassed the which can tende to no other but to the ruine and vtter subuersion of al the kinges subiectes For the foresaid peticioners do knowe wel that there be ten thousande gentle menne and an hundreth thousand men after them able to beare armoure which neither for force nor authoritie will euer forsake the religion which they haue receaued Neyther wil they suffer that eyther preachinge administration of the sacramentes be taken from theym And the kynge beinge vnder age as he is there is no man that hathe aucthoritye to commaunde them to avoyde the realme yea they wyll defende theym selues with the sworde againste them who in this behalfe wil abuse the aucthoritie of his maiestie This great and notable companye can not be ouercome ne vanquisshed if it so come to passe which god forbidde with out the ruine of these whiche shall assayle them So that the straungers the whiche they haue already called which is treason and an offence worthy of death shal beare away the fruict of this ciuile warre And for a conclusion speakinge as I doo bothe for my selfe and for a number of great lordes of thys realme and for ten thousande gentelmen and other of oure trayne who will liue and die in thys quarrell I saye that the forsayde decree was made by thre priuate persons who by their aucthoritie haue broken them whyche were made by the kynge and hys counsell And because they woulde execute it before they had by lawful consultacion approued it they put on armure toke by force the kinges person I say moreouer that the foresaide decre is against the lawes of this realme y t custome of whole christendōe againste the decre of Ianuary against the requeste of the estates against the quietnesse securitie of the kinges subiectes agaynst the concience the honour the life goodes of an infynite nūber of honeste people who haue sought to brynge some to deathe to driue others out of their contreys vnder y t cloke pretence of cōcience and religion This decre also is made against the libertie of going to the general counsell The which he that gaue thē the aduise should haue better marked For if it be sayd that in thys realme suche confession of faythe as they require shall be made with declaracion of maintenaunce of the doctryne and ceremonyes of the churche of Rome it is a sentence geuen against them of the refourmed churche wherfore neyther our ministers nor the ministers of other nations muste not go to the generall counsel seing they are condemned before they be hearde But before that the saide duke of Guise and the Cardinall his brother can sette foorth this decree of confession they muste renounce a number of artycles of the confession of August which they agreed vpon at Sauerne and promised a great prince of Almaine that they would cause theym to be obserued in Fraunce And if they wil denie this let them put it in writinge and they shal be answered by them vnto whom they made the promise The saide Cardinall must also put in writinge that it may be sen and publisshed whether he remaine in the same minde the whiche he ones hertofore declared vnto the quene in the presence of a great sorte of honest● men touching the articles of transubstanciacion of the keeping and bearing of the holy sacrament of Iustification of the innocation of Saintes of purgatorye of Images of al whiche articles he spoke contrary to the opinion of his catholike apostolike Romishe Churche ¶ In the request not muche after thys is made mencion of the breakynge of Images And requeste is made by theym that presented it that the damages shoulde be recompensed and the offendors punished Where vnto I will aunswere this worde that the bloudde of them who breoke the foresayde Images the whiche was shedde by the handes of certayne of oure retinue who woulde haue stayed them and syth by auctoritie of iustice in the same place of Orleans wyll beare wytnesse euermore before god and before men howe greatly suche executions done by the ignoraunte people alwayes myslyked me for manye respectes and specially because the same was contrary to the decree of Ianuary also to an assosiatiō which we had caused be published a fewe dayes before But if the breakynge of Images deserne any restitution and punishemente because it is done contrary to the kynges ordynaunce what punishement loke they for who garnyshe them selues so well with the name of the kyng for the murthers the which partely by thē selues and partely by their example and motion haue ben committed at Uassy at Sens at Castesna de Arry and at Angiers In whiche places it is well knowen that betwixt men women there haue ben slayne aboue v. hundreth persones for none other occasiō but for religion He who made the request should haue examyned his owne conscience and haue acknowledged that it is not found y t the deade image did euer crye vengeaunce but the bloude of man which is the liuely image of god requireth it in heauen as it were pullith causith it to come at y t lēgth although it be for a time let passe ¶ Than the peticioners or that I may speake more truely the commaunders require that their armure shalbe taken from them who haue borne the same withoute the expresse commaundement of the kinge of Nauarre and that they whyche haue worn armure in that manner