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A08891 The fal of Babel By the confusion of tongues directly proving against the Papists of this, and former ages; that a view of their writings, and bookes being taken; cannot be discerned by any man living, what they would say, or how be vnderstoode, in the question of the sacrifice of the masse, the reall presence or transubstantiation, but in explaning their mindes they fall vpon such termes, as the Protestants vse and allow. Further in the question of the Popes supremacy is shevved, how they abuse an authority of the auncient father St. Cyprian, a canon of the I Niceene counsell, and the ecclesiastical historie of Socrates, and Sozomen. And lastly is set downe a briefe of the sucession of Popes in the sea of Rome for these 1600 yeeres togither; ... By Iohn Panke. Panke, John. 1608 (1608) STC 19171; ESTC S102341 167,339 204

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may_v rather_o beseem_v s._n paul_n sword_n then_o s._n peter_n key_n i_o have_v now_o no_o memorable_a thing_n to_o speak_v of_o until_o i_o come_v to_o the_o rule_n of_o boniface_n 8._o 1417._o boniface_n 8._o a●_n 1294._o intravit_fw-la ut_fw-la vulper_n regnavit_fw-la utleo_fw-la mortuus_fw-la est_fw-la canis_fw-la geneb_n l_o 4_o f._n 1000_o fascicul_n temp_n fol._n 83._o de_fw-fr rom._n pont_n l._n 2._o c._n 1._o john_n 22._o hold_v a_o error_n geneb_n l._n 4._o fol._n 1045._o a_o dom_n 1378._o it_o be_v end_v under_o martin_n 5._o about_o the_o year_n 1417._o he_o call_v himself_o lord_n of_o the_o whole_a world_n aswell_o in_o temporal_a thing_n as_o in_o spiritual_a he_o institute_v the_o year_n of_o grace_n or_o jubilee_n from_o 100_o year_n to_o a_o 100_o and_o cause_v the_o first_o to_o begin_v in_o the_o year_n 1300._o this_o be_v he_o of_o who_o it_o be_v say_v he_o enter_v like_o a_o fox_n he_o reign_v like_o a_o lion_n he_o die_v like_o a_o degge_n a_o while_n after_o follow_v 7._o pope_n in_o order_n clemens_n 5._o john_n 21._o or_o 22._o or_o as_o genebrard_n say_v 23._o benedict_n 12_o clemens_n 6._o innocentius_n 6._o vrbanus_n 5._o &_o gregory_n 11._o which_o seven_o be_v all_o none_o residence_n and_o never_o come_v at_o rome_n but_o abode_n in_o france_n as_o say_v bellarmine_n this_o john_n here_o mention_v whether_o the_o 21._o 22._o or_o 23._o hold_v a_o absolute_a and_o gross_a error_n which_o be_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o bless_a see_v not_o god_n until_o the_o last_o day_n a_o while_n after_o these_o begin_v the_o hot_a &_o most_o grievous_a schism_n that_o ever_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n endure_v it_o continue_v as_o some_o of_o they_o write_v 50._o year_n as_o some_o 40._o as_o some_o 30._o and_o as_o some_o above_o all_o these_o 52._o in_o so_o much_o that_o learned_a &_o quiet_a man_n can_v not_o tell_v to_o which_o side_n to_o lean_v it_o hold_v with_o great_a slander_n to_o the_o clergy_n and_o hurt_v of_o soul_n in_o 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ibid._n fol._n 187._o &_o this_o to_o be_v do_v without_o mutation_n or_o change_n of_o place_n or_o any_o strange_a creation_n which_o they_o do_v so_o much_o abjure_v if_o since_o the_o mystery_n of_o our_o redemption_n wrought_v and_o finish_v christ_n as_o man_n be_v ascend_v into_o heaven_n and_o thither_o in_o soul_n and_o mind_n we_o ought_v to_o mount_v and_o go_v after_o and_o that_o it_o be_v good_a for_o we_o that_o he_o ascend_v and_o be_v there_o as_o agree_v to_o the_o scripture_n which_o say_v seek_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v abous_a where_o christ_n sit_v one_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o his_o father_n they_o do_v teach_v be_v it_o not_o earthly_a and_o gross_a to_o seek_v he_o in_o the_o earth_n and_o substantial_o and_o fleshly_a to_o have_v he_o and_o be_v it_o not_o a_o great_a hindrance_n to_o the_o spirit_n of_o our_o mind_n and_o bring_v it_o we_o not_o into_o earthly_a cogitation_n which_o be_v ever_o to_o be_v shun_v if_o they_o say_v true_a in_o the_o one_o 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