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A40242 Saul's errand to Damascus, with his packet of letters from the high priests against the disciples of the Lord, or, A faithful transcript of a petition contrived by some persons in Lancashier who call themselves ministers of the Gospel breathing out threatnings and slaughters against a peaceable & godly people there, by them nick-named Quakers : together with the defence of the persons thereby traduced against, the slanderous and false suggestions of that petition, and other untruths charged upon them : published to no other end but to draw out the bowels of tender compassion from all that love the poor despised servants of Jesus Christ, who have been the scorn of carnal men in all ages. Fox, George, 1624-1691.; Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.; Lawson, John. 1654 (1654) Wing F1895; ESTC R37353 29,928 47

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every day Col. Brigs I never heard such a call as this is in our time Iam. I believe thee Just Pears Is Christ in thee Iam. I witness him in me and if I should deny him before men he would deny me before my Father which is in heaven Just Pears Spiritual you mean Iam. Yea Spiritual Just Pears By faith or how Iam. By faith Just Pears What difference then between the Ministers and you Iam. The Ministers affirm Christ to be in heaven with a carnal body but I with a Spiritual body Just Pears Which of the Ministers say Christ is in heaven with a Carnal body Iam. The Minister so called of Kirkby Steven Priest Higginson stood up and affirmed it again openly before all the Court. Iam. If Christ be in heaven with a carnal body and the Saints with a spiritual body it is not proportionable neither was that a carnal body which appeared among th● D●●ciples the doors being shut and appeared in divers shapes Quest Was Christ man or no Iam. Yea he was and took upon him the se●d of Abraham and was real fl●sh and bone but is a Mystery not known to the carnal man for he is begotten of the immortal seed and those that know him know him ●o be spiritual for it was the VVord that became flesh and dwelt amongst us and if he had not been Spiritual he had not wrought by Redemption Just Pears Is Christ in thee as man Iam. Christ filleth all places and is not divided Seperate God and man and he is no more Christ Just Pears If we stand to dispute these things we should have the Ministers Iam. Perceiving Priest Higginson offended because he had told of his saying that Christ was in heaven with a carnal body I ●●s said Friend I had not 〈◊〉 thee had I not been asked what was the difference between the Ministers and me for I am not come to accuse any for I am against accusations Col. Brigs Wast thou not of a Kirk about Saw●by Iam. I was a member of an Independent Church at 〈◊〉 church Col. Brigs Wast thou not excommunicated for thy blasphe-mous opinions Iam. I know not what they have done since I came forth but before I was not to my knowledg● Col. Brigs cal●ed of Mr. Coal saying Did you ere hear such a call as this did you hear it Coale Yea I heard part of it Col. Brig Didst not thou write a paper wherein was mentioned that if thou think●st to be saved by that Christ which dyed 〈◊〉 J●●us●l●m thou art 〈◊〉 Iam If 〈…〉 Christ neerer then Jerusalem I shall have 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 by hi● but I own no other Christ but that who witnessed 〈◊〉 go●d con●●●●ion before Pontius P●late which Christ I witn●●s in 〈◊〉 Col. Brigs Wilt thou deny thy hand Iam I will not deny ●y hand if I may see it and I desire tha● I may have so much fa●our that tha● paper may be kept as an evidence either with or against me 〈…〉 Petition being read wherein was something against quaki●g and trembling Just Pears How comes it to passe that people quake and tremble Iam The Scriptures witness the same condition in the Saints formerly as David Daniel Habakkuk and divers others Just Pears Did they fall down Iam. Yea some of them did so Coale David said all his bones were broken but they were whole Iam. So are these now Coale Moses trembled for he saw the face of God and all Israel Iam. Did all Israel see the face of God that crosseth the Scriptures Coale They saw his glory shall see the Lord with these eyes putting his fingers 〈…〉 Iam. They 〈◊〉 first be made spiritual he cannot be seen with 〈◊〉 eyes for 〈…〉 Spirit and no flesh can see God and live Coale That light by which I am justified is a created light Iam. That light by which I am justified is not a created light Coale That is true Just Pears To the Word What sayest thou to the Scriptures are they the Word of God Iam. They are a true Dediration of the word that was in them who spoke them forth Higginson Is there not a written Word Iam. Where readest thou in the Scriptures of a written Word The word is spiritual not seen with carnal eys but as for the Scriptures they are true and I witness them true in measure fulfilled in me as lar as I am grown up Just Pears Why dost thou distrub the Ministers in their publick worship Iam. I have not disturbed them in their publick worships Just Pears Why dost thou speak against Tiths which are allowed by the States Iam. I meddle not with the States I speak against them that are hirelings as they are hirelings those that are sent of Christ never took Fiths nor never sued any for wages Just Pears Dost thou think we are so beggerly as the Heathens that we cannot afford our Ministers maintenance We give the us it freely Iam. They are the Ministers of Christ who abide in the Doctrine of Christ Just Pears But who shall judge how shall we know them Iam. By their fruits you shall know them they that abids not in the Doctrine of Christ make it appear they are not the Ministers of Christ Just Pears That is true Accusations against To. Lawson by him answered THat Ioh. Lawson of Lancaster did affirm December the fourth 1652. Object That he was dead and rose again Answ Thou art a witness against him that is risen from the dead whereof the Apostles were witnesses Here thou shewest thy selfe to be a witness against the living and shewest thy self to be in the death and no Minister of Christ for the Ministers of Eph. 2. 1. Chost justified them which were raised from the dead Even when we were dead in trespasses and finnes hath he quickened us together with Christ and hath raised us together and hath made us to fit in heavenly places in Christ Jesus Like wise reckon you also your selves to be dead indeed unto sinne but alive unto God through Jesus Christ for in that he died he died once unto sinne in that he lives be lives unto God Here thou Rom. 6. 10. 11. shewest thy selfe to be no Minister of Jesus Christ He that be lieveth hath passed from death to life because he lovet is his brotisren Here thou shewest thou dost not believe but art in the death and art in envy so thou shewest forth thy selfe to ●e 〈◊〉 and hatest thy brethren We know that we are translated from d ath unto life because we love our brethren be that loveth not his brother abideth in the death and there thou art Whosoever hateth his brother is a man-stayer and you know that no man stayer hath eternal life abiding in him 1 Ioh. 3. And 〈◊〉 is thy condition and here thou art an An●ichrist in the world envying those who are raised from the dead and thou 〈◊〉 to bring them to the death whom God hath raised from the death Thou hast not seen thy selfe to be