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A51131 The case of Ireland's being bound by acts of Parliament in England stated by William Molyneux. Molyneux, William, 1656-1698. 1698 (1698) Wing M2402; ESTC R30063 64,004 194

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Parliament held at Oxford Soon after King Iohn being then about Twelve Years of Age came into Ireland from Milford to Waterford as his Father had formerly done The Irish Nobility and Gentry immediately repaired to him but being Received by him and his Retinue with some Scorn and Derision by reason of their long rude Beards quas more Patrio grandes habebant prolixas says Giraldus Cambrensis Hib. Expug Cap. 35. they took such Offence thereat that they departed in much Discontent which was the occasion of the young Kings staying so short a time in Ireland as he did this his first time of being here And here before we proceed any farther we shall observe That by this Donation of the Kingdom of Ireland to King Iohn Ireland was most eminently set apart again as a Separate and Distinct Kingdom by it self from the Kingdom of England and did so continue until the Kingdom of England Descended and came unto King Iohn after the Death of his Brother Richard the First King of England which was about Twenty two years after his being made King of Ireland during which space of Twenty two years both whilst his Father Henry the Second and his Brother Richard the First were living and Reigning King Iohn made divers Grants and Charters to his Subjects of Ireland which are yet in being in this Kingdom wherein he stiles himself Dominus Hiberniae the constant Stile till Henry the Eighth's time and in others Dominus Hiberniae Comes Meritoniae By which Charters both the City of Dublin and divers other Corporations enjoy many Priviledges and Franchises to this day But after the said Grant of the Kingdom of Ireland to King Iohn neither his Father Henry II. nor his Brother King Richard I. Kings of England ever stiled themselves during their Lives King or Lord of Ireland for the Dominion and Regality of Ireland was wholly and separately vested in K. Iohn being absolutely Granted unto him without any Reservation And he being Created King in the Parliament at Oxford under the Stile and Title of Lord of Ireland Enjoy'd all manner of Kingly Iurisdiction Preheminence and Authority Royal belonging unto the Imperial State and Majesty of a King as are the Express words of the Irish Statute 33 Hen. VIII c. 1. by which Statute the Stile of Dominus was changed to that of Rex Hiberniae Let us then suppose that Richard the First King Iohn's Elder Brother had not died without Issue but that his Progeny had sat on the Throne of England in a Continued Succession to this Day Let us suppose likewise the same of King Iohn's Progeny in relation to the Throne of Ireland where then had been the Subordination of Ireland to the Parliament or even to the King of England Certainly no such thing could have been then pretended Therefore if any such Subordination there be it must arise from something that followed after the Descent of England to King Iohn for by that Descent England might as properly be Subordinate to Ireland as the converse Ireland being vested in the Royal Person of King Iohn Two and Twenty years before his Accession to the Crown of England and being a more Ancient Kingdom than the Kingdom of England As the English Orators in the Council of Constance An. 1417 confess'd and alledged as an Argument in the Contest between Henry the Fifth's Legates and those of Charles the Sixth King of France for Precedence Satis Constat say they secundum Albertum Magnum Bartholomeum de Proprietatibus Rerum quod toto Mundo in tres partes Diviso scilicet in Europam Asiam Africam for America was not then Discovered Europa in quatuor Dividitur Regna scilicet Primum Romanum Secundum Constantinopolitanum Tertium Regnum Hiberniae quod jam translatum est in Anglos Quartum Regnum Hispaniae Ex quo patet quod Rex Angliae Regnum suum sunt de Eminentioribus Antiquioribus Regibus Regnis totius Europae The Antiquity and Precedence of the King of England was allo'wd him wholly on the Account of his Kingdom of Ireland Perhaps it will be said That this Subordination of the Kingdom of Ireland to the Kingdom of England proceeds from Ireland's being Annex'd to and as it were united with the Imperial Crown of England by several Acts of Parliament both in England and Ireland since King Iohns time But how farr this Operates I shall Enquire more fully hereafter I shall only at present Observe that I conceive little more is Effected by these Statutes Than that Ireland shall not be Alien'd or Separated from the King of England who cannot hereby dispose of it otherwise than in Legal Succession along with England and that whoever is King of England is ipso facto King of Ireland and the Subjects of Ireland are oblig'd to Obey him as their Liege Lord. To proceed therefore After both Crowns were united on the Death of Richard the First without Issue in the Royal Person of King Iohn He about the Twelfth Year of his Reign of England went again into Ireland viz. the Twenty Eight day of Iune 1210. and Math. Paris tells us pag. 220. Cum Venisset ad Dublinensem Civitatem Occurrerunt ei ibidem plus quam 20 Reguli illius Regionis qui omnes Timore maximo preterriti homagium ei Fidelitatem fecerunt Fecit quoque Rex ibidem Construere Leges Consuetudines Anglicanas ponens Vicecomites aliosque Ministros qui populum Regni illius juxta Leges Anglicanas Judicarent His Son King Henry the Third came to the Crown the Nineteenth of October 1216. and in November following he Granted to Ireland a Magna Charta Dated at Bristol 12 November the First Year of his Reign 'T is Prefaced that for the Honour of God and Advancement of Holy Church by the Advice of his Council of England whose names are particularly recited He makes the following Grant to Ireland And then goes on Exactly Agreeable to the Magna Charta which he granted to England only in ours we have Civitas Dublin Avenliffee instead of Civitas London and Thamesis with other Alterations of the like kind where Needful But ours is Eight years older than that which he granted to England it not being till the Ninth Year of his Reign and ours is the First Year This Magna Charta of Ireland Concludes thus Quia vero sigillum nondum Habuimus presentem Cartam Sigillis Venerabilis Patris nostri Domini Gualt Apost Sedis Legati Willelmi Mar eschalli Comitis Pembrooke Rectoris nostri Regni nostri secimus Sigillari Testibus omnibus praenominatis alijs Multis D●…t per Manus Praedictorum Domini Legati Willelmi Marescalli Apud Bristol Duodecimo die Novembr Regni nostri Anno Primo An Antient Coppy of this Magna Charta of Ireland is to be found in the Red Book of the Exchequer Dublin In February following in the First Year like wise of his Reign