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A05142 The seconde [seventh] sermon of Maister Hughe Latimer which he preached before the Kynges Maiestie [with?]in his graces palayce at Westminster, ye xv. day of Marche [-xix daye of Apryll], M.ccccc.xlix. Latimer, Hugh, 1485?-1555. 1549 (1549) STC 15274.7; ESTC S122869 128,935 442

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mē to be sworne to thē and so adicte as to take hande ouer hed whatsoeuer they say it were a great inconuenience so to do Well let vs go forwarde He toke Peter Iames and Iohn into this garden And why dyd he take them wyth hym rather then other marye those that he had taken before to whom he had reueled in the hil the transfiguracyon and declaracyon of hys deytye to se the reuelacyon of the maiestie of hys Godhede nowe in the garden he reueled to the same the infirmitye of his manhode because they had tasted of the swete he would they shoulde tast also of the sower He toke these wyth hym at both tymes for two or three is ynoughe to beare witnes And he began to be heauy in hys mind He was greatlye vexed wythin hym selfe he was sore aflycted it was a great heauines he had bene heauye manye tymes before and he had suffered greate afflictions in hys soule as for the blyndenes of the Iewes and he was lyke to suffer mo panges of payne in hys bodye But thys pange was greater then anye he euer suffered yea it was a greater tormente vnto hym I thynke a greater payne then when he was hanged on the crosse then when the stower nayles were knocked and dryuen throughe hys handes and fete then when the sharpe crowne of thornes was thruste on hys head Thys was the heauines and pensiuenes of hys hearte the agony of the spirite And as the soule is more precious then the bodye euen so is the paine of y e soule is more greuous then the paynes of the body Therfore ther is another whiche writeth horror mortis graui or ipsa morte The horrour vgsomnes of death is sorer then death it self This is y e most greuous payne that euer christ suffered euen this pange that he suffered in the gardē It is the most notable place one of thē in the whole storie of y e passiō whē he sayed Anima me a tristis est vsque ad mortem My soule is heauy to death And cum cepisset expauescere and when he began to quyuer to shake The greuousnes of it is declared by hys prayer that he made Pater sipossibile est etc. Father if it be possible a waye w t thys cup rid me of it He vnderstode by this cup his paynes of death For he knewe wel inough y t his passion was at hand that Iudas was come vpon hym wyth the Iewes to take him There was offered vnto hym nowe the Image of death the Image the sence the y e felynge of hell for death and hell go both to gether I wyll entreate of thys Image of hell whyche is death Truelye no manne can shewe it perfectlye yet I wyl do the best I can to make you vnderstād the greuouse panges that oure Sauyoure Chryste was in whē he was in the garden as mans power is not able to beare it so no mās tonge is able to expresse it Paynters painte death lyke a man w tout skin a body hauyng nothyng but bones And hel they painte w t horible flames brēning fier they bungell some what at it they come nothinge nere it But thys is no true payntynge No paynter can paynte hel vnlesse he coulde paynte the torment and condemnatyon both of body and soule y e possession hauyng of all in feliticie Thys is hel this is y e Image of death this is hell such an euyl fauoured face such an vgsome countenaunce suche an horrible vysage our sauiour Christ sawe of death and hell in the garden There is no pleasure in beholdynge of it but more payne thē any tounge can tell Death and hell toke vnto them thys euyll fauoured face of synne and thorough synne Thys synne is so hyghlye hated of Gode that he doth pronounce it worthy to be punished wyth lacke of alfelycitie wyth the fealyng of infelicitie Death and hell be not only the wages the reward y e stipēd of sin but they are brought into y e world by sinne per peccatū mors sayth S. Paule throughe synne deathe entered into the world Moses sheweth the fyrst cōminge in of it into the world Where as our fyrst father Adā was set at libertie to lyue for euer yet God inhibytynge hym from eatynge of the Apple told hym If thou meddle wyth this fruite thou all thy posteritye shall fal into necessitie of death from euer lyuynge morte morieris thou and all thy posteritye shal be subiecte to deathe here came in death and hell Synne was their mother Therefore they must haue suche an Image as their mother sinne woulde geue them An vgsome thinge and an horrible Image muste it nedes be that is broughte in by such a thing so hated of God yea this face of death and hell is so terryble that suche as hath bene wycked men hade rather be hāged than abyde it As Achytophell that trayroure to Dauid lyke an ambycyouse wretche thought to haue come to hygher promocyon and therefore cōspired with Absolon agaynst hys master Dauid He when he sawe hys counsayle toke no place goes and hanges hym selfe in contemplacion of thys euil fauoured face of death Iudas also when he came wyth pushementes to take hys maister Chryst in beholdynge thys horrible face hanged hym selfe Yea the electe people of God the faythfull hauinge the beholdynge of thys face though God hath alwayes preserued them suche a good God he is to them that beleue in hym that he wyll not suffer them to be tempted aboue that that they haue bene able to beare yet for all that there is nothynge that they complaine more sore then of thys horrour of death Go to Iob. What sayeth he Pereat dies in quo natus sum suspendiū elegit anima mea Wo worth y e day that I was borne in my soule wolde be hanged saying in his panges almooste he wyste not what Thys was when wyth the eye of hys conscience and the inwarde man he be helde the horrour of death and hel not for any bodylye payne that he suffered for when he hadde byles botches blaynes and scabbes he suffered them pacientlye he coulde saye then Si bona suscepi de manu Domini c. If we haue receyued good thynges of God why shoulde we not suffer likewyse euyll It was not for any suche thynge that he was so vexed but the syght of thys face of death and hel was offered to hym so lyuely that he wolde haue bene oute of thys worlde It was thys euyl fauored face of death that so troubled hym Kynge Dauid also sayed in contemplaciō of thys vgsome face Laboraui in gemitu meo I haue bene sore vexed with sighyng mourning Turbatus est a furore oculus meus Myne eye hath bene greatlye troubled in my rage A straun● thynge when he had to fyghte wyth Goliath that monstrous giante who was able to haue eaten hym he coulde a byde hym was nothynge a frayed and now
as farre as Calice I warrant you And thā if he wold go on the other side and shewe wher that brybynge iudges were I thynke he shold se so many that there were scant roume for any other Our Lord amende it Well to our matter This Iudge I speake of sayd Though I feare neyther God nor man .c. And did he thynke thus Is it the maner of wiked Iudges to cōfesse theyr faultes nay he thought not so And a man had come to hym called hym wycked he woulde forth wyth haue cōmaūded him to ward he woulde haue defended him selfe stoutly It was God that spake in his conscience God putteth hym to vtter suche thynges as he sawe in hys herte and were hydde to hym selfe And there be lyke thynges in the scripture as Dixit insipieus in corde suo non est deus The vnwise man sayed in hys herte there is no God and yet if he shoulde haue bene asked the questiō he woulde haue denied it Esay the prophet sayeth also Mādatio protectisumus We are defended with lyes We haue put our trust in lyes And in an other place he saith Ambulabo in prauitate cordis mei I wyll walcke in the wyckednes of my herte He vttereth what lyeth in his hert not knowne to hym selfe but to God It was not for nought that Ezechiel describeth mans herte in his colours Pranum corhominis et inscrutabile The herte of man is naughty a croked a frowarde pece of worke Let euery man humble hym selfe acknowledge hys faulte and do as saynte Paule dyd When the people to whome he had preached had sayed manye thynges in his commendation yet he durste not iustifye him self Paul would not prayse hym selfe to his owne iustification and therfore whē they had spoken those thynges by him I passe not at all sayth he what ye saye by me I wyll not stand to your reporte and yet he was not forward that when he herd the trueth reported of hym he woulde say it to be false but he sayed I wyll neyther stande to your reporte though it be good and iuste neither yet I wil saye that it is vntrue He was bonus Pastor A good shepeheard He was one of thē qui bene presūt y t discharged his cure yet he thought y t ther might be a farther thing in him selfe then he sawe in hym selfe And therefore he sayed The Lorde shall Iudge me I wyll stand onely to the Iudgemente of the Lord. For loke whom he iudges to be good he is sure he is safe he is cocke sure I spake of this geare the last daye of some I had litle thāke for my laboure I smelled some folkes that were greaued wyth me for it because I spake against Temerarius iudgmēt What hath he to do wyth iudgmēt say thei I wēt about to kepe you frō arrogāt iudgment Wel I could haue sayd more thē I dyd and I can saye muche more nowe For why I knowe more of my Lord admirals death syth that tyme then I did knowe before O saye they The man dyed very boldly he woulde not haue done so hadde he not bene in a iust quarell This is no good argument my frendes A man semeth not to feare death therfore hys cause is good Thys is a deceauable argumente He went to hys death boldely ergo he standeth in a iust quarel The Anabaptistes that were brente here in dyuers townes in England as I heard of credyble menne I sawe them not my selfe wente to theyr deathe euen Intrepide As ye wyll saye without any feare in the worlde chearfullye Well let them go There was in the olde doctoures tymes an other kinde of poysoned heretikes that were called Donatistes And these heretikes wente to their execution as thoughe they shoulde haue gone to some Ioylle recreacion or banket to some bealye chere or to a play And wyll ye argue then He goeth to hys death boldely or chearefullye Ergo he dyeth in a iuste cause Naye that sequele foloueth no more then thys A man semes to be a frayed of death Ergo he dyeth euyl And yet our Sauioure Christe was afrayed of death him selfe I warne you therefore and charge you not to iudge theym y t be in authoritie but to praye for them It becometh vs not to Iudge greate maiestrates nor to condemne theyr doinges vnlesse theyr dedes be openly and apparantlye wycked Charytye requireth the same for charitye iudgeth no man but well of euery bodye And thus we maye trye whether wee haue charitye or no if we haue not charitye wee are not Gods disciples for they are knowē by that badge He that is hys disciple hath the worke of charity in his breast It is a worthye sayinge of a clarke Charitas si est operatur si nō operatur nō est If there be charity it worketh Omnia credere omnia sperare To beleue all thinges to hope all to say the best of the maiestrates not to stād to y e defending of a wicked matter I wil go farder w t you now If I should haue saied al that I knewe youre eares woulde haue yrked to haue hearde it nowe God hathe brought more to lyghte And as touchyng the kynde of hys death whether he be saued or no I referre that to God onely What God can do I can tell I wyl not denye but that he maye in the twynkeling of an eye saue a man and turne hys harte What he dyd I can not tell And when a man hathe two strokes wyth an axe whoo cā tel that betwene two strokes he doth repent It is very hard to iudge Well I wyll not go so nye to worke but this I wyl say if thei aske me what I thi●ke of hys deathe that he dyed verye daungerously yrkesomlye horryblye The man beyng in the tower wrote certayne papers whiche I sawe my selfe Thei were two lyttleones one to my Ladye Maryes grace and another to my Ladye Elizabethe grace tendynge to thys ende that they shoulde conspyre agaynst my Lorde protectours grace Surely so seditiously as could be· Nowe what a kind of death was thys that when he was readye to laye his head vpō the blocke he turnes me to the leuetenauntes seruaunte and sayeth byd my seruaunte spede y e thyng that he wottes of Wel the worde was ouer heard Hys seruaunte confessed these two Papers and they were founde in a shooe of hys They were sowen betwene the soules of a velued shooe He made hys ynke so craftely and wyth such workemanship as the lyke hath not bene sene I was prisoner in the tower miselfe and I coulde neuer inuente to make ynke so It is a wonder to heare of hys subtilitie He made hys pen of the aglet of a poynte that he plucked from hys hose and thus wrote these letters soo seditiouslye as ye haue hearde enforsynge manye matters agaynste my Lord protectours grace and so forth
God had lefte him to him selfe he hadde cleane forsaken hym What woulde he haue done if he had liued styll that were a bout this geare when he layed hys head on the blocke at the ende of hys lyfe Charytye they saye worketh but Godly not after thys sorte Well he is gone he knoweth hys fare by thys he is eyther in ioye or in payne There is but two states if we be once gone There is no chaunge Thys is the speach of the scripture Vbicūque lignū ceciderit ibi erit siue in austrū siue in aquilone Wheresoeuer the tree falleth eyther into the southe or in to the north there it shall rest By the fallyng of the tree is signifyed the death of man If he fall into the Southe he shall be saued ☞ For the Southe is whote and betokeneth Charitie or saluacion If he fal in the Northe in the colde of infidelity he shal be dampned There are but two states the state of saluaciō and the state of damnacion Ther is no repentaūce after thys lyfe but if he dye in the state of damnacion he shal ryse in the same Yea thoughe he haue a whole Monkerye to synge for hym He shall haue hys fynall Sentence when he dyeth And that seruaunte of hys that confessed and vttered thys gere was an honest manne He dyd honestlye in it God put it in hys herte And as for the to ther whether he be saued or no I leaue it to God But surelye he was a wycked man the realme is well rydde of hym It hathe a treasure that he is gone He knoweth hys fare by thys A terrible example suerlye and to be noted of euery man Nowe before he shoulde dye I hearde saye he had commendacions to the kyng and spake manye wordes of his maiestye All is the kynge the Kynge Yea Bona verba These were fayre wordes the kynge the kyng I was trauailed in the tower my selfe with the kinges commaundemente and the counsayle and there was syr Roberte Cunstable the Lorde Hussye the Lord Darsy And the Lorde Darsye was tellynge me of the fayethfull seruice that he hadde done the kynges maiestye that deade is And I had sene my Soueraygne Lorde in the fyeld sayd he and I had sene hys grace come a gaynste vs I woulde haue lyghted from my horsse and taken my sworde by the poynt and yelded it into hys graces handes Mary quod I but in the meane season ye played not the parte of a fayethfull subiecte in holdynge with the people in a cōmotion a disturbaunce It hath bene the cast of al traitours to pretend nothing agaynste the kynges person they neuer pretende the matter to the kynge but to other Subiectts maye not resyste anye magistrates nor oughte to do nothinge contrarye to the the kynges lawes And therefore these wordes the kyng and so fourth are of smalle effect I hearde once a tale of a thinge that was done at Oxforde .xx. yeres a go the lyke hath bene sence in this realme as I was enformed of credible persons some of thē that sawe it be alyue yet There was a prieste that was robbed of a greate some of money and there were .ii. or .iii. attached for the same robbery and to be bryefe were condemned broughte to the place of execution The fyrste manne when he was vpon the ladder denied the matter vtterly toke his death vpon it that he neuer consented to the robbery of the preste nor neuer knew of it When he was deade the seconde felowe commeth and maketh his protestation acknoweleged the faute sayinge that among other greuouse offēces that he had done he was accessary to thys robberye and sayeth he I hadde my parte of it I crye God mercy so hadde thys felow that dyed before me hys parte Now who cā iudge whether this felow dyed wel or no Who cā iudg a mās herte The one denyed the matter and the tother confessed it there is no Iudginge of suche matters I haue hearde muche wickednes of thys manne and I haue thought oft Iesu what wil worth what wyl be the ende of thys manne When I was wyth the byshop of Chichester in warde I was not so with hym but my frēdes might come to me talke with me I was desirous to heare of executiō done as ther was euery weke some in on place of the citye or other for there was thre wekes sessions at newgate and fourthnyghte Sessions at the Marshialshy and so forth I was desirous I saie to heare of execution bycause I looked that my parte should haue bene theyrin I loked euery daie to be called to it my selfe Amonge al other I heard of a wanton woman a naughtye lyuer a whore a vayne bodye ● was ledde from newgate to th● place of execution for a certaine robberye that she had committed and she hadde a wycked cōmunication by the waye Here I wil take otcasiō to moue your grace that suche menne as shal be put to death maye haue learned menne to geue them instruction and exhortacion For the reuerence of God when they be put to executiō let them haue instructours for manye of theim are cast away for lacke of instructiō and dye miserably for lacke of good preaching This womā I saye as she wēte by the waye had wanton and folyshe talke as thys that yf good felowes hadde kept touch wyth hyr she hadde not bene at thys tyme in that case and amongeste al other talke she saied that suche a one and named this manne hadde hyr maidenheade fyrste and herynge thys of hym at that tyme I loked euer what woulde be hys ende what woulde be come of hym He was a manne the fardest frome the feare of God that euer I knewe or heard of in Englande Fyrste he was author of all thys womannes whoredome For if he had not had hyr maydenhead she myghte haue bene maryed and become an honeste womanne where as nowe beynge nought with hym shee fell afterwarde by that occasiō to other And they that were nought with hyr fel to robbery and she folowed and thus was he author of all thys This geare came bi Sequels Peraduenture thys maye seme to be a lyghte matter but surelye it is a gr●ate matter and he by vnrepentaunce fell frome euyl to worse and from worse to worste of all tyll at the length he was made a spectacle to all the worlde I haue hearde saye he was of the opiniō that he beleued not the immortalytye of the soule that he was not ryght in y e matter And it mighte well appeare by the takynge of hys death But ye wyll saye What ye sclaunder him ye breake charitye Nay it is charitie that I do We canne haue no better vse of hym nowe then to warne other to beware by hym Christ saith Memores estote vx oris Loth. Remembre Lothes wyfe She was a woman that would not
wrought in hyr When she was brought to punishment she desyred to cōfesse hyr faulte she toke of hyr death that she was giltlesse in that thynge she suffered for and hyr neyghbours would haue borne hyr wytnes in the same She was alwayes an honeste ciuell woman hyr neyghbours woulde haue gone on hir purgacion a greate waye They would nedes haue hir confesse then saith she I am not gylty wold ye haue me to make me gyltye wher I am not Yet for al thys she was a trespasar she had done a greate offence But before I go forward with thys I must first tel you a tale I hearde a good whyle ago a tale of one I saw the mā that tolde me the tale not longe ago in thys auditorye He hath traueiled in mo countries thē one He toulde me that there was once a pretour in Rome Lorde mayre of Rome a ryche manne one of the richest marchauntes in all the cytye sodaynelye he was caste in the castle Aungell It was herde of euerye man whispered in an others eare What hath he done Hathe he kylled anye man No. Hath he medled wyth Alam oure holye fathers marchādice No Hath he coūterfaited our holy fathers Bulles No. For these were hye treasons ▪ One rowned an other in the ear and said Erat Diues He was a riche man A great fault Here was a goodlye pray for that holye father It was in Popes Iulius tyme he was a greate warrioure Thys praye would healpe hym to mayntayne hys warres a ioly praye for our holy father So thys woman was Diues She was a rych womā she had her lādes by the Shiriffes nose He was a gentil man of a long nose Such a cup such a couer She wold not depart from her own Thys Shyriffe was a couetnouse man a worldely man The Iudge at the enpanelyng of the queste hadde hys grauelookes and charged them wyth thys It was the Kynges matter loke well vpon it When it makes for their purpurpose they haue the Kynge the kynge in theyr mouthes Wel some what there was ther was walkynge of angelles betwene them I would wishe that of suche a Iudge in Englande nowe we might haue y e skin hāged vp It were a goodly signe the sygne of the iudges skynne It shoulde be Lotis wyfe to all Iudges that shoulde folow after By thys ye may perceiue it is possible for a manne to answere for hym self and be arrained at the barre neuertheles to haue wronge Yea ye shall haue it in fourme of lawe and yet haue wronge to So it is possible ▪ in a case for a manne that hath in his absence ataintement to haue right no wronge I wyl not saye naye but it is a good lawe for a man to answere for him selfe this is reasonable alowable good And yet suche an vrgente cause maye be suche a respect to a commune wealth that a man may rightlye be condemned in hys absence There be such causes that a man maye in hys absence be condemned but not ofte except they be such cases that the reason of the generall lawe maye be kepte I am prouoked of some to condēpne this lawe but I am not able so it be but for a time and vpon wayghty consideraciōs so that it be vsed rarely seldomly for auoyding distrubaunce in the cōmune wealth such an epiky and moderacion maye be vsed in it And neuertheles it is verye mete and requisite that a man should answere for hym selfe ▪ We must consider the groūd of the lawe for Ratio legis anima legis The reason of the lawe is the soule of the lawe Why what is the reason and ende of the lawe It is thys that no man shoulde be iniured A man may in hys attayntmente haue no more wronge done hym then if he aunswered for hym selfe Ah then I am not able to saye that in no wise and arrainemēt maye be tourned in to attaintement A mā maye haue wronge and that in open iudgemente and in forme of lawe and yet alowed to aunswere for him self and euen so is possible he maye haue ryghte thoughe he neuer aunswere for hym selfe I wyll not say but that the parliament houses both hye and lowe may erre and yet they may do wel christen subiectes must take all thynges to the beste and expounde theyr doynges well althoughe they can not yelde a reason for it except their proceadings be manifestli wicked For though they can not attayne to se for what purpose thynges be done it is no good reasone that they be called euell done therefore And is thys a good argumente he is not alowed to answer for hym selfe in thys place or that place where he wyll appoynte Ergo he is not alowed to answere for him selfe No. He myght haue aunswered the beste he coulde for hym selfe before a greate meanye and haue hadde moe to if he had requyred theym Yea and was commaunded vpon his allegiaunce to speake for hym selfe and to make aunswere but he woulde not nedes he woulde come oute to Iudgemente and appoynte the place hym selfe A manne that answeres for hym selfe at the barre is not allowed hys manne of lawe to answere for hym but he muste aunswere hym selfe Yet in the Parliament althoughe he were not there hym selfe anye frende he had had lyberty to aunswere for him franke and fre I know of the olde manner The tenour of the wryttes is thys Euerye man to speake the best he knoweth of hys conscience for the kynges magesties honour and the wealth of the realme There were in the Paliamente in both houses a great meanye learned men conscionable men wise mē When that man was attainted there and they hadde lybertye ther to say naye to his attayntmente yf they woulde Sure I am the mooste allowed it or else it coulde not haue gone forwarde These premisses considered I woulde haue you to beare such a hert as it be commeth christen subiectes I knowe what men say of me wel ynoughe I could pourge my selfe There is that prouokes me to speake againste thys lawe of attayntemente they saye I am not indyfferente Surelye I woulde haue it to be doone rarely vpon some greate respect to the commune wealth for a uoiding of greater tumulte and peryll Saynct Paule was allowed to answere for hym selfe if Lisias the tribune hadde not plucte hym awaye from shewynge of hys matter it hadde coste hym hys lyfe Where he was saued by the magystrate beynge but a pryuate manne Wyll ye not alowe that some thyng be done as wel for sauyng of the magistrates lyfe It be houes theym of the Parliament to looke wel vpon the matter And I for my parte thyncke not but they dyd well else I should not yelde the dutye of a subiecte Some liken me to doctour Shaw that preached at Pauls crosse that Kynge Edwardes sonnes were bastardes An easy matter for one of the counsell to doctour Shaw did
what a worcke what exclamacions makes he at the syghte of death Ionas lykewyse was bold inoughe to byd the shypmen cast hym into the sea he had not yet sene that face and vysage but when he was in the Whales belly and had there the beholdynge of it what terror and distresse abode he Ezechias whē he sawe Senacherib beseigynge hys citye on euerye syde most violentlye was nothynge a frayde of the greate hoste and myghtye army that was lyke to destroye hym oute of hande yet he was a frayed of deathe When the Prophet came vnto hym and sayed Dispone domini tue morte morieris et non vines It stroke him so to the harte that he fel a wepynge O Lord what an horror was this Ther be some writers that sayes that Peter Iames and Ihon were in thys felynge at the same tyme and that Peter when he sayed Exi a me domine quia homo peccator sū Did tast some part of it he was so astonyshed he wist not what to saye It was not longe that they were in thys anguyshe some sayes longer some shorter but Chryst was readye to comforte them and sayed to Peter Ne timeas Be not afraied A frēd of myne tolde me of a certayne woman that was .xviii. yeares to gether in it I knewe a man my self Bilney litle Bilnei that blessed martyr of GOD what tyme he had borne hys fagott and was come agayne to Cambrydge hadde suche conflyctes wythin hym selfe beholdynge thys Image of death that hys frendes were a frayed to lette hym be alone they were fayne to be wyth hym daye and nyght and comforted hym as they coulde but no comfortes woulde serue As for the comfortable places of scripture to brynge theym vnto hym it was as though a man woulde runne hym throughe the herte wyth a sweard Yet afterwarde all thys he was reuiued toke his death pacientlye and dyed wel against the Tirannical sea of Rome Wo wil be to that byshoppe that had the examynacyon of hym if he repented not Here is a good lesson for you my fryendes If euer ye come indaunger induraunce in pryson for godes quarrell and hys sake as he dyd for purgatorye matters and put to beare a fagot for preachynge the true worde of God agaynste pilgremage and suche lyke matters I wyl aduyse you fyrst aboue al thing to abiure al your fryendes all your frindeshipe leaue not one vnabiured it is they that shall vndo you and not your ennemyes It was his very friendes that brought Bylnye to it By this it maye somewhat appere what oure sauyour Christe suffered he doeth not dissemble it hym selfe when he sayth my soule is heauye to death he was in sosore an Agony that there issued out of hym as I shal entreate anone droppes of bloud and vgsome thing suerly whiche his fact and dede sheweth vs what horrible paynes he was in for oure sakes But you wyll saye howe can thys be It were possible that I and suche other as be greate synners shoulde suffer suche afflictiō The sonne of God what oure Sauioure Christe neuer synned howe can thys stande that he shoulde be thys handeled he neuer deserued it Mary I wyl tell you how we must consider oure Sauiour Christe two wayes one way in hys mā hode a nother in his Godhed Some places of scripture must be referred to hys deitie and some to his humanitie In hys godhed he suffered nothynge but nowe he made hym selfe voide of hys deity as scripture sayth Cū esset in forma dei exinaniuit seipsum Where as he was in the forme of God he emptyed hym selfe of it he dyd hyde it and vsed him selfe as though he had not had it he woulde not helpe hym selfe wyth hys godhede he humbled him selfe with al obedience vnto death euen to the death of the crosse thys was in y ● he was mā he toke vpon hym our synnes our synnes not the worcke of synnes I meane not so not to do it not to commyt it but to purge it to cleanse it to beare the stypende of it and that waye he was the great synner of the worlde he bare all the synne of the worlde on hys backe he woulde become detter for it Nowe to sustayne and suffer the doloures of death is not to synne but he came into thys worlde wyth hys passyon to purge our synnes Nowe thys that he suffered in the Gardaine is on of the bittrest peces of al hys passyon thys feare of death was the byttereste payne that euer he a bode dewe to syn which he neuer did but became detter for vs. Al this he suffer for vs thys he dyd to satissefye for our synnes It is much like as if I oughte another mā .xx. M. poūdes and shulde paye it out of hande or elles go to the dungen of ludgate and whē I am goynge to pryson one of my friēdes should come aske whether goeth thys mā And after he had harde the matter shulde saye let me aunswere for hym I wylbe come suertye for hym Yea I wyll paye all for hym Suche a parte played our sauiour Christe wyth vs. If he had not suffered thys I for my part shoulde haue suffered accordynge to the grauitie and quātitie of my synnes damnacion For the greater the synne is the greater is the punyshement in hell He suffered for you and me in suche a degre as is dewe to al y e sīnes of the whole world It was as if you woulde immagin that one man had commytted al the synnes since Adā you maye be sure he shoulde be punished wyth the same horrour of death in suche a sorte as al men in the worlde shoulde haue suffered Feyne put case our sauyour Christe had cōmitted al the sinnes of the world al that I for my parte haue done al that you for youre parte haue done and that anye manne elles hath done if he hade done all thys him self his agony that he suffered shoulde haue bene no greater nor greuouser then it was This that he suffered in the garden was a portion I say of hys passiō one of the bitterest partes of it And this he suffered for oure synnes and not for anye synnes that he had commytted hym selfe for al we should haue suffered euery man accordynge to his owne desertes This he dydde of his goodnes partelye to purge and cleanse our synnes partlye because he would tast fele our myseries Quo posset succurrere nobis that he should the rather helpe and relieue vs and partly he suffered to geue vs example to be haue our selues as he dyd He dyd not suffer to discharge vs clene frō death to kepe vs cleane frō it not to tast of it Nay nay you muste not take it so We shall haue the beholding of this vgsome face euery one of vs we shal fele it our selues Yet oure sauiour Christ dyd suffer to the entente to