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A49845 Observations upon Mr. Wadsworth's book of the souls immortality and his confutation of the opinion of the souls inactivity to the time of general resurrection, 80. Layton, Henry, 1622-1705. 1670 (1670) Wing L758; ESTC R39124 150,070 217

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to_o do_v do_v it_o with_o thy_o might_n for_o there_o be_v no_o work_n nor_o device_n nor_o knowledge_n in_o the_o grave_n whither_o thou_o go_v thus_o we_o find_v solomon_n express_v himself_o much_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n that_o job_n before_o have_v do_v declare_v that_o death_n and_o the_o grave_n put_v a_o end_n to_o the_o do_n and_o suffering_n of_o man_n without_o take_v notice_n of_o any_o reward_n or_o suffering_n likely_a to_o befall_v man_n soon_o after_o their_o departure_n forth_o of_o this_o world_n which_o be_v in_o my_o apprehension_n a_o sort_n of_o evidence_n that_o his_o word_n the_o spirit_n return_v to_o god_n who_o give_v it_o do_v not_o intend_v the_o go_n of_o man_n soul_n to_o judgement_n before_o god_n soon_o after_o their_o departure_n out_o of_o this_o life_n i_o quote_v likewise_o in_o corroboration_n of_o solomon_n forecited_n text_n and_o opinion_n a_o concurrent_a evidence_n out_o of_o the_o prophet_n isaiah_n 38.18_o where_o hezekiah_n pray_v to_o 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