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A57693	Catholick charitie complaining and maintaining, that Rome is uncharitable to sundry eminent parts of the Catholick Church, and especially to Protestants, and is therefore Uncatholick : and so, a Romish book, called Charitie mistaken, though undertaken by a second, is it selfe a mistaking / by F. Rous.	Rous, Francis, 1579-1659.	1641 (1641)	Wing R2017; ESTC R14076	205,332	412

CATHOLICK CHARITIE COMPLAINING AND MAINTAINING That Rome is uncha●itable to sundry Eminent parts of the Catholick Church and especially to Protestants and is therefore Uncatholick And so A Romish Book called CHARITIE MISTAKEN though undertaken by a Second is it selfe a Mistaking By F. ROUS OPTATUS Lib. 2. Quia noluerunt fratres agnoscere nullam habuerunt charitatem LONDON Printed by R. Young for Iohn Bartlet at the signe of the gilt Cup neer S. Austins gate 1641. REcensui Librum hunc cui Titulus CATHOLICK CHARITY in quo nihil reperio fidei orthodoxae aut bonis moribus contrarium quo minus summâ cum utilitate Typis mandetur JOH HANSLEY R. P. Episc. Lond. Capel Domest Decemb. 2. 1640. The Publisher to the READER IT might well have beene wished that the growth of Romish errours and superstitions the complaint of this time had not made this Worke too seasonable True it is though it doe but now see the light yet it came to the birth before any other Answer of Charity Mistaken was knowne to the Authour it came indeed to the birth but there was no strength to deliver the judgement of those times not giving way to any other besides those whose Answers have beene already made publick But though they have run before like Cushi this like Ahimaaz yet perchance not altogether without tidings may run after and with Ahimaaz it may make the better speede because with him it goes the way of the Plaine it goes a plaine way speaking plainely the Protestant Shiboleth and it useth plainnesse and evidence of speech in which way it is likely to meet with most Readers Neither doth it come altogether without tidings for it brings with it the tidings of Truth and Love and by both a remedy against error and uncharitablenesse And as it is a worke of charity so is it sutably fitted with charitable expressions for it doth not take up those sharpe arrowes which in these Concertations too often are shot at mens persons besides the Marke of the Matter True it is that where the Writer doth put his faults into the matter of his Booke and doth publish them of purpose to have them seene and by the sight of them to make others faulty there it will bee a duty of obedience as well as of necessary providence for the Readers safety to take notice of them Controversies certainely looke like breaches of love and therefore the Authour hath not been much in love with them But if love will bee lost except it be kept by a Controversie there the Controversie that keepes it is a worke of love To strive against uncharitablenesse that it may be removed and charity put in the roome of it is an act of charity and this charity is the businesse of this work The Reader may also take notice that divers passages not insisted on by the other are here examined because this worke surveyeth the whole Booke which it answers more particularly then the other There hath indeed come forth a Reply in defence of Charity Mistaken But both the one and the other turne mainely on these two hinges That there must be an entire unity of faith in all Truths revealed by God and proposed by the Church And That if unity were to be held by the faith of Fundamentals a perfect and uniforme List should be given of those Fundamentals Now these two hinges being taken off in this Book I hope it may give a fall to the maine matter of them both And whereas the Replyer strives to divide our unity by this Engine That some Protestants directly wittingly and willingly dis-beleeve what others do beleeve to bee testified by the Word of God and herein is no difference between Fundamentall and not Fundamentall It is rejoyned for a defence against this Engine of division That if herein be no difference betweene the one and the other in Fundamentals there is no proofe that they are not united members in the body of Christ For hee that wittingly and willingly dis-beleeves that which the other beleeves to bee testified by the Word of God may know as the terme wittingly seems to import that the point dis-beleeved is not testified by the Word of God and so hee may bee safe and is still one with Christ and his Members Againe the other who beleeves it to bee testified by the Word of God may bee deceived yet the point not being fundamentall his errour may not divide him from the other which is a member of Christ. Indeed if a Protestant should know a point to be testified by the Word of God and then dis-beleeve it that might prove him not to be in the Body of Christ but first This would bring him within the difference of Fundamentals and not Fundamentals contrary to the Replyers Affirmation for it is a maine Fundamentall to beleeve God whom that man beleeves not who wittingly and willingly denyes the Word of God And secondly It is meerly inconsistent and incompossible That hee who beleeves Fundamentals should wittingly and willingly dis-beleeve what hee knows the God of Truth hath spoken And if out of weaknesse errour and ignorance hee doth not beleeve that God hath spoken it this ignorance if it be not in Fundamentals doth not inforce a disunion from other Members of the Body of Christ. Thus the Replyers objected Not-beleeving either falls under Fundamentals and then his case is not rightly put or else it falls not under Fundamentals and then it doth not conclude a disunion betweene Protestants This having received my selfe I impart to the Reader with a Prayer that in reading this Worke hee may bee enlightned with that Spirit of Truth which alone can kindly discover both the Mystery of godliness and the Mystery of iniquity and that the same Spirit may hold him in the one and keep him from the other CATHOLICK CHARITIE CHAP. I. Of Christian Love and Peace SECT I. Concerning the Excellency Necessity and other motives of Christian Love with an exhortation to the imbracing of it THE Spouse of Christ Jesus when shee shines in Love shee is amiable in Beauty precious in the eye of her Husband powerfull with God her Father prosperous in her owne spirituall health and vigour and prepared for her consummate marriage in celestiall glory Her husband is God and God is love and God cannot but love that love which is like himselfe And that hee may love his Spouse for her love when shee becomes one Spirit with him by this unity of Spirit hee gives her an uniformity of love the oyntment of Christ Jesus the Head floweth down into all his members and breatheth love into them and as farre as his life goes so far goeth his love therefore no love no life in Christ Jesus Agreeably the beloved Disciple and an especiall Teacher of love having shewed that the new-birth brings love with life he fitly addeth Hee that loveth not abideth in death No wonder then if the great Master and Lover of this Disciple

and root of this very errour which damneth men that shall bee saved And indeed it is a vice not beseeming a Cavalier which hee calleth Pusillanimity An errour of ●onscience is caused by pusillanimity of heart whereby a man fears that which should not be feared according to the right judgement of reason and such a conscience is too strict and therefore to bee avoided because it causeth three evills whereof the third is this It damnes him that should be saved But thus this errour of the Cavalier being taken from him by which he thinkes he may follow his erroneous conscience in denouncing damnation to those that are saved the very sinnew and bond of his discourse is cut assunder and all his ensuing labour lost by which hee strives to prove that Protestants and Romists are divided and cannot both bee saved For though they be thus divided a Papist cannot charitably tell a saved Protestant that hee is damned because hee doth erroneously beleeve it Yet will he needs goe on to his proofes of unity though altogether unprofitable and unable to excuse Rome from the charge of being uncharitable to Protestants yea it rather aggravates his charge and makes her more uncharitable in not holding unity with so good Christians as Protestants Yet hee is resolved to goe on and to utter that which hee gathered upon this head or rather upon this word of Unity for the places which hee brings forth it seemes please him well if they doe speake of the word Unity or something neere to the sound of it though the meaning bee nothing of that unity which it concernes him even in this his walke of impertinency and wandering to pursue and prove For sometimes his Allegations seeme to prove that there should bee in the Church one Head and sometimes one Heart and Affection somtimes one Spirit But if the Author would bee pleased to remember his owne businesse he might consider that his worke is to prove that there is in the Church such an entire unity in all points of Doctrine that there can be no difference or dissent in any one point though never so small but that by this difference the unity of the Church and salvation is lost For wee deny not but there must bee one heart and one affection and one spirit in the Church and all this in and under the unity of one Head Christ Iesus Againe we acknowledge that God did found but one Church and one Religion and that without these two there is no salvation But except the Author prove that the unity of this one Church and of this one Religion consists in this that the beliefe of all must be one and the same in all points under paine of Damnation the former words of unity are meere words and not pertinent to this end neither will they make up his taske For when hee comes to his next point that this unity is broken betweene Protestants and Romists wee will presently deny that wee have any way broken that unity of faith which holds us in unity with the Church and consequently wee are still in the state of salvation and so all his errand is lost Therefore the most places being impertinent as proving that which wee deny not and indeed make nothing for him being granted hee hath two or three which by screwes are wrested toward this full unity in points of beliefe though they reach not home to it This perchance hee aymed at in other places but they would not joyne with him SECT II. The argument drawne from the authority of the High Priest among the Iewes answered A First of his unproving and impertinent places is that of Deut. 17. where as our Author saith his whole people should be subject to the determination of the High Priest for the time being and this upon no lesse then paine of death In which sentence there was to be no appeale And a little after The great authority and power which was cast upon the individuall Person of one Iudge But first if wee will reade the words of God himselfe we may see that He speaks of more then one individuall Person For Hee speakes of the Levites the Priests and the Judge And if a man will not hearken to the Priest or to the Judge that then he should dye But secondly it must bee remembred that that which the Priest or the Judge must pronounce must bee the sentence of the Law For even the Prophet must dye which shall presume to speak a word which God hath not commanded Yet thirdly wee well know That this speaking according to the Law was often neglected by the Priests and therefore they brake the Covenant of Levi and led the people into errors as hereafter more fully may bee proved And I hope this Champion will not say that the people lost their salvation if they did not hold unity with the errors of the Priests And whereas hee addeth That there could bee no Religion or Church that did not agree with this Wee take not this to bee the present Question but Whether all beleevers Proselites or Jewes did in every point by the Priests decision hold an unity of beliefe and did in no point differ Now this I thinke will never bee both affirmed and proved For not only humane Testimonies but the Scriptures themselves doe shew us that there were divers sects and opinions among them and yet they joyned together in externall unity not dividing themselves into two Religions and Churches But to put this Author out of trouble in regard of his individuall High Priest the mention of whom seemes to looke asquint on the Pope as his shadow let him remember That the High Priest was himselfe a shadow of Christ and when Christ came this shadow was abolished and when this shadow dyed it left not the Pope either heire or executor and so hee can be at best but the counterfeit of an abolished shadow And thus all this Authors labours for the High Priest are left to the Pope But see how yet it fals out more unhappily against him for after hee had made mention of the individuall High Priest his next proofe ariseth from Korah Dathan and Abiram punished for Schisme and not for Heresie and difference in Doctrine against two individuall persons Moses and Aaron SECT III. It is declared 1. That the unity of the Church may be preserved without an exact agreement in all points of doctrine 2. That the Papists exalt the Pope above God in that they hold all differences from the Popes determination to bee mortall and yet some breaches of Gods Law to bee veniall ANother place of his very impertinent to his purpose is taken or racked out of the Psalmes which differently from the originall and corrected Translations hee thus paraphraseth Hee makes them to bee all after one manner and to bee endued with the same affections and dictamens concerning Gods service But the word dictamens we leave to this Author as

the Church which is the Cavaliers point to be proved by this place for he denyeth many doctrines and fundamentall ones of the Law and the Prophets yea of God himselfe The next place doth much accuse the Cavaliers need of Allegations and yet withall excuseth him not from an indeavour to deceive his Reader The place alledged by him is this Quod apud multos c. That which is found to be one amongst so many is not to be thought to have crept in by errour but to have beene commended by Tradition The place cited is this Quod apud multos unum invenitur non est erratum sed traditum That which is one among so many is not an errour but a thing delivered The question in hand was concerning the rule of Faith or the Creed as the Reader may see by comparing the thirteenth chapter where the Creed is rehearsed and the end of the one and twentieth where he saith That it remained for him to shew whether the doctrine in the former rule came from the delivery or if you will Tradition so it bee not a Tradition beyond that which is written for there is no such in this rule of faith of the Apostles And having refuted these objections That the Apostles delivered not all and that they knew not all he comes after to this objection That the ●hurches did not purely reteine what the Apostles delivered and thus hee refells this objection Age nunc omnes erraverint deceptus sit Apostolus de Testimonio reddendo Nullam respexerit Spiritus sanctus uti eam in veritatem deduceret ad hoc missus à Christo ad hoc postulatus de Patre ut esset doctor veritatis neglexerit officium Dei Villicus Christi vicarius sinens Ecclesias aliter interim intelligere aliter credere quod ipse p●r Apostolos praedicabat Ecquid verisimile est ut tot ac tan●a in unam Fidem erraverint Nullus inter multos eventus est u●us exitus Var●asse debuerat error doctrinae Ecclesiarum ●aeterùm quod apud multos unum invenitur non est erratum sed traditum Whereof the summe is this that though the Holy Ghost the Vicar of Christ had not looked to his office of leading the Church into truth yet there is no likelihood that so many Churches had erred into one Faith But the Faith wherein there is such unity among many should not be an errour but a Truth delivered by the Apostles Now this place is so far from saying that all Churches agreed in sin all points beyond and besides the Creed that it speaks onely of their agreement in the rules of Faith and doctrine of the Creed And he saith that such an agreement comes not by errour which commonly is divers but by one uniforme delivery and doctrine of the Apostles So the Cavalier is still to seeke for a necessary unity in every smal doctrine and in points without the Creed Cyrill is mainly for the Protestants even as himselfe alledgeth him For we agreeably affirme That to be the Catholick Church which teacheth without defect all things necessary to salvation And in the doctrine of faith such things necessary to salvation are points fundamentall Cyprian comes or is rather drawne in next against his will and meaning and thus the Author produceth him The Church being stricken through by the light of our Lord doth send her beames throughout the whole world But yet that light which is cast so far abroad is but one and the same Shee spreads her branches over the whole earth after a plentifull manner Shee extends her flowing streames with great aboundance and to a great distance But yet is Shee one Head and one Root and one Mother who is fruitfull by such store of issue Now I thinke it were needlesse to help a Reader to take this place from the Author For it is plaine to every eye that this place speakes not of the unity of the Church in all points of doctrine but of their unity in one Love and one mysticall Body So that this place is not onely unserviceable to the Author but serves much against him and his lady Mother who cuts off noble and excellent members of the Church from her or rather her selfe from the Church if they doe not submit to her universall Tyranny Cyprian it seemes hath not said enough and therefore he must say more but indeed lesse Let us see how the Cavalier rather teacheth him then suffereth him to speake The same S. also speaking of the sin of Core Dathan and Abiram implies that the one Church must not onely be entirely beleeved but followed also in all her doctrines and directions For hee saith that though Core Dathan and Abiram did beleeve and worship one God and lived in the same Law and Religion with Moses and Aaron yet because they divided themselves from the rest by Schisme resisting their Governours and Priests they were swallowed up quick into Hell Here first wee may observe how hee tells his Reader what hee would have Cyprian say for hee saith not that Cyprian doth speake it plainely but the S. implyes and what doth he imply That the Church must not onely bee intirely beleeved but followed also in all her doctrines and directions But did Core Dathan and Abiram differ from Moses and Aaron in doctrine His owne place denyes it which saith They did beleeve and worship one God and lived in Moses his Law and Religion with Moses and Aaron And the place further assignes the true fault Division by Schisme They denyed the authority of those whom God had placed to be Governours over them Just the same sinne into which Pope Pius the fifth drew the English Papists by his Bull so that this place makes exceedingly against Romish doctrine of rebellion against Princes such as those of the North and in Ireland But let me give the Author one question at parting Was Aaron to bee followed in all his doctrines and directions what doth the Author think of this doctrine concerning the Calfe These be thy Gods O Israel which brought thee up out of the Land of Egypt Saint Basill is next produced thus speaking in Theod. They who are well instructed in holy writ permit not one syllable of divine doctrine to be betrayed or yeelded up but are willing to embrace any kinde of death for the defence thereof if need require Hereupon the Author thus commenteth That man of God had beene sollicited by some to relent for a time to yeeld though it were but to a little he refused in such sort as you have seene and he did it with much disdaine to be attempted in that kinde Now let the Reader see here the fairenesse of our Author Hee speakes of Basils not yeelding to a little and what was this little Denying the sonne of God to be God of one substance with the Father Is this a little Surely he should be a great Hereticke that should deny

the Pope otherwise to determine But whereas this Authour saith That the guilty consciences of Protestants make them not dare to punish Priests capitally as for a corrupt Religion I leave it to the wisdome of State to consider how farre such an imputation of guilt deserves to bee removed And let his owne fellowes weigh with themselves whether this Authour hath acted the part of a Cavalier both valiant and wise thus to provoke clemencie armed with power by putting the scandall and shame of guiltinesse upon it And whether hee hath not brought a kinde of necessitie of capitall punishments for the removing of his owne objection of guilt especially since they who thus provoke patient clemency to turne into severity have also already made smooth the way for it for they have plentifully proved That Idolatry should bee punished with death And the other halfe have the Protestants mightily and inevitably evicted That right or very Popery is right Idolatry And now what hinders but that this Authour may have his desired conclusion of capitall punishment for an Idolatrous Religion and not onely for Treason But as here his valour was inconsiderate so now his inconsideration is valiant For not weighing the Treasons of Priests nor indeed the reasons by which they have approved the Justice of Lawes made against them this Authour in a blind hardinesse to his owne shame doth accuse Protestants of Impudence and Falsehood For that many Priests have been actuall Traitors our Chronicles too plentifully shew and their owne Pens have witnessed to the world the justice of our Lawes even against those Priests who have not bin taken in actuall Treason And now that this Authour may help us as hee usually doth towards his owne confutation hee giveth us a sentence that is a sword for the slaying of his owne Charity Mistaken His words are these As the Catholick Church is most perfectly charitable so withall shee thinkes shee cannot expresse the vertue better then by clearely distinguishing betweene truth and falshood and by exhorting men to imbrace the one and to avoid the other so far off is she from demeriting by letting Protestants know that if they dye impenitent in that Religion they lose their soules Here is that truth which I told him long since and which hath already served to overthrow a great part of his former discourse That Charity cannot be better expressed then by clearly distinguishing between truth and fashood and by exhorting men to imbrace the one and to avoyd the other For herein doe the Romists exceedingly offend against Charity and can hardly better expresse the contrary Uncharitablenesse then by putting truth into place of falsehood and by exhorting men to imbrace falsehood and to avoyd truth And untill the Authour hath disproved this mistaking our Accusation of Romish uncharitablenesse still stands on foote and his owne plea for Rome lyes still unproved And Rome though very meritorious yet doth much demerit yea sinne against Charity for falsly telling Protestants That they lose their soules if they dye impenitent in a true Religion CHAP. XIII Wherein are discussed divers false inferences from some Protestants doctrine urged by the Cavalier in the Conclusion of his Booke to seduce men to Popery and encountred with some true inferences drawne from Popish doctrines the better to perswade men from that Sect. SECT I. The Protestants denyall of Merit no principle of corrupt living THis Authour having lost or rather given away his cause in the premisses of his discourse the conclusion sutable to such losing premisses should have been a meere surrender and accordingly he should have said That notwithstanding all improbabilities it is very probable that Romists want charity to Protestants when they take them for odious persons fall foule on them blow them up burne them and damne them And secondly That though it be true that there is but one Church and one Faith wherein is salvation yet Protestants being of this one Church and having this Faith and so being in the way of salvation it is not an untruth but a truth that they want charity who hate and damne the Protestants which are saved Yet our Authour goes on like Pharaoh and to him as to Pharaoh may be said Knowest thou not yet that Egypt is destroyed Doth he not know the citie which is spiritually Egypt and Sodome is going to destruction and the probabilities and reasons are dead by which as by garisons this Egypt is maintained and defended Wherefore it were good that both he and Rome would let the men goe that they may serve the Lord their God But Rome still goes on in her purpose of holding the Church in bondage yea shee sends forth Souldiers and Cavaliers to fetch back those who are gone out from her yoke whereof this Champion is one And now that the sonnes of Rome may imitate the infirmities of Saint Peter wherein especially their Fathers are his Successors hee comes with a piece of that pitie wherewith Saint Peter would have Christ to have pitied himselfe but so that without pitie hee should have lost the salvation of the whole world so would this Authour have Protestants to pity themselves even to the danger of their salvation and by a deadly Apostacie to turne from the living God to Romish Idolatry But hee doubts his pitie will prove but a sleight and empty perswasion and therefore to a vaine pitie hee addeth some reasons which want nothing more then truth to make them forcible Hee saith That Protestant doctrine under his false Title of heresie is a Nursery of corrupt principles concerning life and when hee hath said it hee brings as hee is wont proofes that do not prove it yet thus hee begins even in his Conclusion When they teach men that there is no merit belonging to good workes though they bee confess'd by us to flow but from the grace and goodnesse of Christ our Lord what courage doe they give men to bee frequent and chearfull in doing of good works But is not this speech unworthy of a noble Cavalier much more of a Christian For were it not ignoble in a Knight when his Father commands him to doe some valiant service for his honour or defence to answer him hee hath no courage to doe him service because thereby he cannot merit any thing from him seeing hee oweth all his service and himselfe unto him Thus because his Father hath deserved all therefore hee will doe nothing Againe If a Father should tell his Sonne Doe what thou canst to please mee or as Isaac Goe kill mee some venison and I will freely give thee a blessing though the venison deserve it not should the Son wisely returne this answer to his Father Sir I have no encouragement by your free promise or gift of this blessing except I can merit it from you by my venison But ingenuous Christians Saints and Sonnes of God whose understandings and wils are truely ennobled by the Divine Spirit are farre of another minde they