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A88870 The bramble berry: or, A briefe discourse touching participating in mixt assemblies at the Sacrament of the Lords Supper, wherein is most full and cleare satisfaction given to every weak and doubting Christian, both by testimony out of Gods Word, and many invincible reasons and arguments for that purpose, grounded upon the same, wherein is first principally discussed and resolved these three maine questions following: I. Whether the Congregationall assemblies in England be true churches of Jesus Christ, yea or no? 2. Whether it be lawfull to participate at the Sacrament of the Lords Supper among carnall and prophane men? 3. Whether the admitting of ungodly men to the table of the Lord be sufficient warrant for ministers to desist the publike administration of the Sacrament, or for particular members to decline it, or separate themselves? Secondarily, briefe and satisfactory answers given to all the principall places of Scripture alleadged to maintaine a separation from our church assemblies, besides their arguments and allegations sufficiently resolved: set forth for the benefit of the tender conscience. By W. L. a faithfull petitioner and carefull practitioner for the peace and welfare of the church and people of God. W. L., a faithful petitioner and careful practitioner for the peace and welfare of the church and people of God. 1643 (1643) Wing L84; Thomason E56_8; ESTC R413 53,887 63

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take heed of complying with sinfull weaknesses or neglect duties of so high concernement as on which salvation and soule nourishment depend though he be offended I ought rather to use meanes to reforme his judgement then to decline my duty Exam. If a man should be offended for my observing the Lords day for my praying in my family for indeavouring to keepe the commands of God must I neglect these weighty duties to humour his weaknesse nay rather I shall doe my duty to informe him what his duty is both by my exhortation admonition reproofe or practise Besides though it be his weakenesse to be offended at such duties of necessity to be performed yet I shall sinne against knowledge and conscience if I upon so slight grounds turne my back upon the Ordinances of God 6. Argument That that encourages wicked men in their sinnes a godly man ought not to doe but comming with them to the Sacrament encourages them in their sinnes therefore a godly man ought rather to forbeare c. This is spoken in the name of a beleeving worthy communicant An. 1. I do not encourage them in their sinnes by my comming to the Sacrament unlesse I lived as they doe in the like or the same sinnes and came unworthily and unpreparedly to the Table of the Lord as they doe then indeed I gave ill example and occasion of incouragement they see my life answerable to my profession but theirs clean contrary and it is impossible for a godly man to countenance wicked men this way for then he would cease to be godly if they come unprepared and with impenitent and unbeleeving hearts this is their sinne not mine 2. How doe I incourage them by comming when I doe the best I can to dehort them from it show my dislike of it nay reprove them and use all lawfull and necessary meanes to reclaime them or deterre them from it 3. What evill effects depend upon the performance of my duty I must not altogether so looke upon as to decline my duty for as I must not doe the least evill that the greatest good may come upon it so I must not neglect doing that which is good and enjoyned by God though some seeming evils ensue upon it For then by the same reason I must leave off professing Religion observation of the Sabbath praying in my family standing for the cause of Christ nay frequenting all publike and private duties and Ordinances because from hence wicked men take occasion to scandall the waies of God and reproach Gods people with nicknames as Puritan Brownist Round-head c. for the reason why wicked men hate Gods people is because they runne not with them to the same excesse of riot and Gods people it is their part and duty to suffer for the name of Christ the maine ground why Caine hated his brother Abell 1 Pet. 4.4 Luke 6.12.14 was because his workes were good and his evill for every one that doth evill hateth the light therefore it is my part to looke what God requires of me to performe John 3.20 that I must have respect unto and leave the successe and event to the Lord. 4. If my comming with them to the Sacrament barely considered encourage wicked men in their sinnes because they come also by the same reason my comming with them to heare the Word doth also encourage them and as much reason I have to turne my backe upon one Ordinance as another because of their frequenting them for though it be lawfull and expedient that they should heare the Word being the meanes of conversion and unlawfull for them to receive the Sacrament in the profanenesse yet they not discerning the difference may take as much encouragement in their sinnes by the godly hearing the Word with them as receiving the Sacrament among them and as much reason there is for one as the other the premises considered 5. As my prepared and worthy receiving can doe them no good that come unprepared and in their sinnes so their unprepared and unsinfull presumptious approaching the Ordinance can doe me no hurt that is cannot take the benefit of the Ordinance from me the cautions of dislike of them formerly observed c. 7. Argument He that sees a man murder himselfe and is present with him is guilty of his sinne if he hinder him not but godly men in the Sacrament see wicked men murder themselves and hinder them not therefore they are guilty of their sinne Answ I referre the answer of this Argument to that first Argument of seeing wicked men crucifie the Lord Christ in the Sacrament and the conclusion upon it this Argument being of the same nature is there sufficiently spoken to 8. Argument That that brings judgement upon the Church and people of God Gods people ought to avoyd and shunne but the comming with profane men to the Table of the Lord brings judgement upon the Church and people of God therefore they ought to avoyd and shun this evill 1 Car. 11.30 Ans 1. It is not my comming preparedly and worthily that brings judgement upon the Church but the disorderly and profane comming of profane men 2. The judgement that fell upon the Church of Corinth of sicknesse and death doubtlesse was upon the profane and unworthy not upon the guiltlesse for saith the Apostle they eate and drinke Judgement to themselves for though the Apostle say for this cause many of you are sicke and many sleepe he meaneth certainely many of your publike Assemblies which by their profanenesse have provoked God and by reason they were members of their publike Assemblies he saith many of you and not for that they were Saints that suffered the disorders divisions drunkennesse and profanenesse of many of the Assemblies in comming to the Lords Table was punished in some that belonged to the election of grace with temporall chastisements in some that were vessels of wrath with death and eternall vengeance and therefore notwithstanding these abuses in the Church he gives no toleration to separate but laies downe what our duty is even every man to be more watchfull over his own heart and life and more diligent in the work of self-examination and so to eat and drink with comfort and this is the onely remedy he prescribes he saith not if such and such offendors be not cast out separate your selves nay he speaks not at all of casting out any but the incestuous person but if neither the other offenders nor the incestuous should be cast out he I say saith not separate but be humbled you in whose power it is not to cast out c. mourne for it at least rejoyce not in it examine your owne hearts prove your selves and so eate of this bread and drinke of this cup and gives them a reason why they should not depart the Assemblies or decline their duty For as often as yee eate this bread and drinke this cup yee show the Lords death till he come So that I conclude
one godly man of this soule nourishment it is true our Saviour Christ saith Cast not Pearles before Swine nor holy things to Dogs Matth 7.6 that is spoken as well of the doctrine of the Gospell as of the Sacrament yea and more properly Christian exhortations admonitions and reproofes are there meant as appeares by the following words Lest they turne againe and all to rent you or lest they spurne at and reject your reproofes admonitions and you also This also is of the same importance Reject him that is an heretique Tit. 3.10 after the first and second admonis●ion both places import thus much that if wicked men would with patience and meekenesse receive and heare the word of God with Christian admonitions c. and not resist and reject them they might receive the benefit of them and though they might be yet uncapable of the Sacrament that which I infer from that place of Scripture is that it hath no relation at all to the Sacrament more then to other holy ordinances Secondly that though we ought not to give holy things to dogs nor Pearles to Swine yet holy persons those to whom such precious mercies belong ought not to be denyed them although the first inference should bee denied concerning the relation of that place of Matthew to the Sacrament yet no reasonable man can deny the latter 1 Cor. 11.24 25 26. 1 Cor. 11.28 1 Cor 11.26 Matth. 26.26 27 28. 3ly Consider the command of our Saviour Christ for the performance of this duty Doe this in remembrance of me and so also we have an Apostolicke injunction for it Let a man examine himselfe and so let him eate of this bread and drinke of this cup also consider the use and end of its institution for as oft as yee eate of this bread and drinke of this cup yee show the Lords death till he come so also drinke ye all of it for this is my blood of the new Testament that is shed for many for the remission of sinnes and in the same place concerning the bread he saith Take eate this is my body c. Fourthly wee have the example as of all Gods people in all ages partaking in mixt assemblies so of Gods Priests and Ministers in all times yea in the Apostolike Churches of Corinth Galatia the seven Churches of Asia the Church of the Jewes under the Law yea also in our owne Congregations since the reformation of the Sacrament of the Lords Supper hath beene received in mixt assemblies as hath beene already largely proved and if Gods people have received it in mixt assemblies by consequence Gods Priests and Ministers have delivered it in mixt assemblies indeed God blames the Priests under the Law for admitting people uncircumcised to his holy ordinances but never for giving holy things to holy persons or to any that were in externall Communion with them though doubtlesse many of them were vitious in their lives Saint Paul doth not say if the incestuous person or those drunkards or Schismatiques that were in the Church of Corinth were not cast out that they should cease the publike administrations no not a word to that purpose but use all lawfull meanes in our power to purge abuses of this nature out of the Church but especially out of our owne hearts Let every man examine himselfe and so let him eate c. Fiftly godly Ministers give occasion to carnall men to despise the worke of reformation while they see even those that seeme to be most forward that way different in their practises some desisting the administration some continuing it See say they what manner of reformation these men would have they differ so among themselves they know not what they would have so hinder the worke of reformation and scandall the wayes of God by their divisions among themselves and give great advantage to the adversaries of our Religion Sixtly as it is better for Gods sheepe to feed upon pasture where some weeds grow rather then starve for want of food so it is better for Gods shepheards to suffer some weeds to grow in the sheeps Pasture if they cannot prevent it then to starve their flocke yea and as it is better for the sheepe to feed among goates rather then starve so it is better the shepheards should suffer goates to feed upon the sheeps pasture though it should poyson them then for the sheepe to be kept from it it being as I said out of their power to reforme it 7. Consider there is neither command in Scripture nor example of any Priest under the Law or Minister or Pastor under the Gospell that upon this or any such ground did lay aside the administration of publike Ordinances especially the Sacrament of the Lords Supper But we see it is expresly commanded to be observed and enjoyned Gods people to frequent and if Gods people ought not to forsake the Assembly or the Ordinances or turne their backes upon them from any such ground much lesse ought the Ministers who by their absence give a cessation to the Ordinances deprive Gods people of the benefit and use of them for whose sakes they were as I said principally ordained Object Gods Ministers doe but desist the administration a while till it please God to open a doore of enlargement that power may bee put into their hands to cast out offenders and to have a people congregated according to God Answ Wee all ought to labour and indeavour this way both by prayer and all other lawfull meanes to forward this worke of reformation but I know no warrant any Minister of God hath upon any such ground to deny either Gods people or themselves the benefit of this Ordinance they may as well desist all other publike administrations upon one and the same ground suppose divers honest men were confined to a place where they could not bee without the company of ungodly men and that there were a keeper appointed to looke to them to give them that by which their lives and comforts are preserved and maintained what would we thinke of that keeper that would refuse to administer such things as are of absolute necessitie to preserve them in health till they come as it were out of prison to have their tables spread in their owne houses and families out of such wicked company not knowing when the time of their confinement would end surely we would conclude him an ignorant or idle fellow that would rather suffer them to starve in keeping their allowance from them then giving it them in an untoward way or among theeves and robbers and as foolish would they be found that upon such grounds refuse to receive their nourishment even so though Gods people bee constrained either to partake with wicked men at the Lords table or lose the benefit of it I hould it a very weake argument that the presence of wicked men should debarre them of it surely the necessity Gods people have of it the right they have
with the Apostle that seeing it was their duty to shew or set forth the Lords death and to keepe solemne commemoration of it till his second comming it was also their duty in the Church of Corinth to examine themselves and participate the Sacrament notwithstanding the abusive and dangerous comming in of others so also in our publike Assemblies and Ordinances notwithstanding the Lord may and will bring judgement both temporall and spirituall upon the heads of them that vilifie his Ordinances yet it being our duty to keepe solemne commemoration of the death of our Lord Christ till his second comming we also ought to examine our selves labour for Sacramentall qualifications which I hope are not unknowne to those that are fit communicants and so to eate and so to drinke c. 9. Argument Not to put difference betweene the precious and the vile is a sinne but Gods people in the Sacrament by comming with wicked men doe not put difference betweene the precious and the vile therefore they sinne Answ 1. The sinne of not putting difference betweene the precious and the vile is charged upon the Priests under the Law and so upon those under the Gospel which have power to receive or cast out Ezek. 44. and 22.2 not upon the people or private Christians but now in case those in authority be corrupt or neglect their duty in not exercising disciplin this gives me no warrant to separate no more then when the Priests under the Law profaned the Ordinances by admitting persons uncircumcised and unholy into the Assemblies gave any warrant to the people of God to turne their backes upon his publike Ordinances of which there is no example in all the booke of God For though the vile ought not to come yet the precious may and ought to come to the Ordinances of God in strength of duty to God and for their owne benefit and though it will be said it is not lawfull to give holy things to Dogges or childrens bread yet I hope holy persons and children themselves may participate freely of those things that are provided for them It were a very ridiculous thing if I should see one casting a peece of bread though it were never so good nay though it were a whole loafe to Dogges for me to resolve Well I saw such a one throwing good bread to Dogges fit for men to eate therefore I will never more eate bread while I live nor come where bread is 2. I confesse Gods people private Christians ought to put difference betweene the precious and the vile and though they doe come to the Sacrament in mixt Assemblies if they observe the cautions formerly given by showing their dislike of such abuses mourning for them by seasonable exhortations reproofes or admonitions labour reformation according to the bounds limits of their places callings observing circumstances of time place person c. and by their praying to God for reformation herein though they doe come with wicked men to the Sacrament they doe put an apparent difference betweene the precious and the vile 3. Though it be a sinne not to put difference betweene the precious and the vile this way their separation is but adding one sinne to another and no way cleares them of the guilt of sinne but increases it because they have no warrant to separate 10. Argument That that 's neither commanded by God in Scripture nor necessarily implyed that is unlawfull to practise but that Godly men shall partake of the Sacrament of the Lords supper in mixt Assemblies is neither commanded in Scripture nor necessarily implied therefore the practise thereof is unlawfull Answ It is both commanded and necessarily and strongly implied and therefore it is lawfull to practise and our duty so to doe that it is commanded will appeare thus and therefore necessarily implied where Scripture is more silent First consider what hath beene said concerning the Church of Corinth how corrupt it was both in Doctrine and Discipline and yet the Apostle laies an Apostolike command upon them that notwithstanding these corruptions and corrupt members they should in strength of their duty examine and eate c. Let a man therefore examine himselfe therefore Wherefore because many come unpreparedly and unworthily to their owne destruction and condemnation therefore doe you examine your selves and so eate of this bread and drinke of this cup and that this his Apostolike injunction might take the better effect with them he first showes them his authority 1 Cor. 11.23 1 Cor. 11.24.25 1. That what he delivered to them he received from the Lord Christ 2. In so doing they should answer the end of the institution in that there by they shew the Lords death and keepe a continuall commemoration of it till his second comming Ma. 26.26.27 28. Christ saith also Take eate this is my body c. and our Saviour Christ in the institution of it saith expressely doe this in remembrance of me yea even when Judas himselfe was knowne to them all to be the betrayer of Christ after Christ had told them yea and Judas himselfe of his treason he blessed the bread brake it and bid them all eate of it and tooke the cup and bid them all drinke of it c. now if a know no hypocrite a knowne Devill a knowne betrayer of Christ were among the 12. Disciples at the Sacrament nay at the institution of it when it was most free of corruption and yet this sinne of Judas never at all charged upon the rest though they then all knew him surely a knowne profane person may be at the Lords Table and yet godly men may lawfully participate and his sinne not charged upon the rest nor hinder them from the benefit of the Ordinances Object There was but one of twelve wicked but in our Assemblies are above twelve wicked to one godly Answ If there were one of twelve whom Christ himselfe chose who knew the hearts of all men well may there be twelve for one when corrupt men that can see no further then the outside nor have no power nor will sometimes to reforme that have to doe in admitting or keeping backe and when men of all sorts that professe Christ come together without an immediate call from Christ as the Disciples had one Devill among twelve chosen Disciples chosen by Christ is more then one thousand in other Assemblies and surely if Christ had seene the being of an hypocrite or devill amongst them could have made the assembly unlawfull or taken away the benefit of the Sacrament from them he would never have chosen Judas to be one of the twelve or at least would never admitted him to the Sacrament for though at first the Disciples knew not Judas to bee an hypocrite yet Christ himselfe knew him and a knowne hypocrite ought to be as well kept from the ordinances as a knowne prophaned person and is a more dangerous person in the Church So if our Ministers or men that have