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A85422 VVater-dipping no firm footing for Church-communion: or Considerations proving it not simply lawful, but necessary also (in point of duty) for persons baptized after the new mode of dipping, to continue communion with those churches, or imbodied societies of saints, of which they were members before the said dipping; and that to betray their trust or faith given unto Jesus Christ to serve him in the relation and capacity, whether of officers, or other members, in these churches (respectively) by deserting these churches, is a sin highly provoking in the sight of God. Together with a post-script touching the pretended Answer to the Forty queries about Church-communion, infant and after baptism. By John Goodwin, a servant of God in the Gospel of his dear Son. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665. 1653 (1653) Wing G1213; Thomason E723_15; ESTC R202234 72,402 91

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gibbrich or non-sence unto me For sayth he the same things have the same consequences and two things alike belong to the like reason and judgment He that either can understand these topiques or fit them to his case must plough with a stronger and nimbler heyfer then mine That which I suppose the man would have is this but his demand is most unreasonable and importune that if Baptism succeeds circumcision in one thing it must succeed it in another yea in all things How empty such a conceit as this is both of reason and of truth hath been shewed in the last of our foregoing Considerations And however some of us upon occasion sometimes say that Baptism succeeds circumcision which is a truth evident enough and acknowledged such in some respects by one of the Great Apostles of the Anti-querists Faith in the matter of Baptism yet have we no need of such a saying to support our cause of Infant Baptism For the analogy or proportion of reason from whence we argue that infants may be as well the subjects of Baptism as of circumcision may equally stand whether Baptism be looked upon as Successor unto circumcision or no But if our good Freinds intellectuals be not too far spent with the strength of the Inchantment upon him but that he yet remains in some competent capacity to receive instruction I shall here once for all give him an account why though it were to be granted which yet it is not but only with limitation as was lately shewed that want of circumcision did exclude from Church-ship under the Law yet this at no hand proveth that therefore a defect of or in Baptism should do the like under the Gospel 1. The Church of God being in the Infancy or nonage of it under the Law the state and condition of it was more servile then now under the Gospel Now I say that the heir as long as he is a child differeth nothing from a servant though he be Lord of all But is under Tutors and Governors until the time appointed of the Father Even so we when we were children were in bondage under the Elements of the world But whtn the fulness of time was come God sent forth his Son made of a woman made under the Law To redeem them that were under the Law that we might receive the adoption of Sons * In respect of this different State of the Church under the Law and under the Gospel the Churh is not to be looked upon as under a like rigour of subjection to any carnal Ordinance or Ceremony whatsoever as it was under the Law Nor are the external Ceremonies of the Gospel pressed upon like terms of peremptoriness and severity upon the Saints as those of the Law were imposed upon the carnal Church of the Jews If they were the two so different States of the Church mentioned should be confounded But somewhat to this purpose we speak in our Considerations where we declared that in the Gospel no man is threatened for not being Baptized Baptism being here enjoyned or recommended unto men by way of indulgence and for their spiritual benefit and accommodation not with any intention on Gods part to render the bare omission of it an article of condemnation against any man much after the manner of the Law of the free-wil offering under the Law And whereas it was said unto Abraham concerning circumcision He that is born in thy house and he that is bought with thy mony must needs be circumcised It is no where said unto any person in the New Testament ye must needs be baptized Yea unto the Eunuch requiring Baptism Philip answered If thou beleevest with thy whole heart thou MAYST not thou MUST be baptized There is an eye of this Evangelical liberty concerning external observations in the Institution it self of the other Ordinance also as the Apostle Paul recordeth it 1 Cor. 11. 25. 26. This do ye as oft as ye do it in remembrance of me For as often as ye eat this bread and drink this cup ye do shew the Lords death till he come Here is no Injunction of the Quoties but a plain intimation of a liberty touching this only the manner of the Toties is strictly prescribed which is the direct calculation or manner of sanction of the Institution concerning the free-wil offering under the Law This kind of offering was imposed upon no man as of necessity only the terms of the oblation of it when offered are strictly prescribed See Levit. 1. 2 3 c. and again Levit. 22. 18. 19. 20 c. But 2. Concerning Circumcision there never was any question among the Jews nor indeed any place or occasion for a question either whether it was commanded by God or no or whether the practise of it was to continue till the coming of the Messiah or no no nor yet concerning the due mode or manner of its administration So that whosoever refused to submit to circumcision during the reign of it did ipso facto and without dispute openly manifest yea profess disobedience to God in an express command Whereas the Anti-querist well knoweth that amongst the Saints and servants of God themselves and persons as tender conscienced of as rich an obediential frame of heart towards God as himself or the best of his late-born perswasion there are many scruples questions and cases of conscience about Baptism some being unsatisfied whether there be any command of God or of Christ in the Gospel requiring subjection of any person in these days unto such a thing others ohether the mind and pleasure of God be that the ordinary and standing administration of it should be made to Infants or persons of mature years others again whether the administration of it may not with as good or better acceptance with God be made by sprinkling or pouring water on the baptized as by dowzing or dipping besides several others of like nature And such questions and dissatisfactions amongst holy humble grave and sober Christians as these undeniably shew and prove that the mind and will of God t●uching these particulars is very sparingly obscurely and with much scantness of discovery delivered in the Scriptures The premises considered the case must needs become plain why though it should be granted that circumcision was made by God a necessary condition of Church-ship under the Law yet this no ways proveth that he hath made Baptism especially in any particular mode of its administration a like condition of Church-membership under the Gospel If God should have intended Baptism as some men count Baptism for a necessary requisite or ingredient into Churchship under the Gospel he should have made a Law for the inchurching of his Saints which would have excluded the far greatest yea and best part of them from all part and fellowship in that gracious accommodation and which would have brought in an Heterogeneal generation of vain and loose persons in their stead as now the groundless conceit of such a Law