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A65868 The he-goats horn broken, or, Innocency elevated against insolency & impudent falshood in answer to two books against the people of God called Quakers : the one intituled, A fuller discovery, which is stuffed with such a multitude of lyes, slanders, and perverting the truth, as the like hath not been extant : the authors of which are John Horn, Thomas Moore Senior, and Thomas Moore Junior : and the other book is falsely called truth's triumph by John Horn : which are answered for the information of the people, and the clearing of the servants of God, and the way of truth to the simple hearted from the lyes, delusions and fallacies that have proceeded from the spirit of Antichrist and blasphemy, in these men aforesaid, who profess themselves ministers of Christ but are proved ministers of Satan and unrighteousness / by a witness of Christ and his work against all the works of darkness, G.W. Whitehead, George, 1636?-1723. 1660 (1660) Wing W1933; ESTC R38606 53,172 64

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in person with them 1000. years there must be another Resurrection of the bodies of the wicked which they call the last and general Resurrection but in these things they would shew themselves wise above what is written but the Kingdome of Christ wherein he will Reign and Rule over the Nations is Spiritual and Spiritually discerned and known where the Power wherein the Kingdome stands is felt and not according to the carnal imaginations of hireling Priests Deceivers J. H. T. M. In P. 141. They say that Christ hath appointed together with the Preaching the Cross this outward Ordinance speaking of the blessing and breaking Bread and taking and blessing the Cup for the remembring and shewing forth the Lords Death till be come which implies that there is even in believers in their several ages till that his coming again natural d●●ness and proneness to forget it and therefore need of such mementoes c. and that he hath appointed such means to stir us up by putting us in remembranes often they say Reply Herein they undervalue the believers as if they were 〈◊〉 themselves having natural dulness and proneness to forget the Lords Death the before imagin that the belevers ●●ct have need of such outward ●●ings as bread and wine to stir them up by putting them in remembrance often whenas the true believers are come to the substance and to feed upon the flesh of Christ and feel his coming knowing that the bread which they break is the Communion of the body of Christ and the cup of blessing which they bless is the Communion of the blood of Christ which the outward bread and the cup was but a sign or a figure of and the end of the World they are come to see who are in the Communion of the body of Christ for in the World is the strife and the doting about these outward shaddows which are passed away where the glory of the Sun is broken forth and the mysteries of life revealed And what is it that puts you in remembrance to take bread and wine Will not the same stir you up to the remembrance of Christs death But you are so dull and prone to forget it that you must alwayes have need of such shaddows to put you in remembrance often sure if you were come to feel the power of Christs sufferings and were come to feed upon his flesh which giveth life unto the world and to drink his blood you would not be so forgetful of Christ as you are for can a living man who is sound forget his natural food And where you say that we render the Supper of the Lord as well as the passover a figure in this have you spoken falsely for we are come to the Supper of the Lord and to sup with Christ and he with us where the bread of God is received which is not a figure but the substance to which Supper you are not come who live in pride and vanity and pleading for sin as your natural heritage and with such Christ does not Sup nor feed among such a proud company as you are at your bread and wine which blindly you call his Supper when it hath not so much as a true form of the Supper of Christ in it when his Disciples eat with him in the night in which he was betrayed they eat the passeover according to the command Mat. 26. Luke 22. 8. So that his Supper was not without the Passeover which was a figure that Christ fulfilled Again J. H. and T. M. in P. 146. you charg us with corrupt imaginations and with signifying in our former Questions that the blood sufferings and death of Christ that is over and past as to the actual accomplishment and sustaining thereof and was so finished in that body is not the bread of life or the drink indeed and the purger of the conscience but something else figured by that which is now in a present and sensible being nigh to men and in them Reply In which you shew your corruptness and perverting the Truth in that you are striving against what we said of the flesh and blood of Christ viz. That his flesh and blood is so nigh to every believer that his flesh is his meat and his blood is his drink indeed and this flesh and blood continues and is felt in the true believer whereby he hath life in him and his conscience purged when the sufferings and death of Christ as to the actual accomplishment and sustaining thereof is over and past as you confess But alas you are ignorant of this and cannot tell where the blood of Christ is as to the existence of it and yet you have called it the foundation of your faith and Gods own blood P. 89. Acts 20. 28. and yet by your words God is without his own blood in Heaven for you have denyed it to be in Christs body in Heaven so you cavel at us for witnessing the life and substance of that which you are both ignorant of and are confounded about Where we asked J. H. and T. M. What is their ground for sprinkling the Children of them they count believers About this they shuffle and dare not answer directly for fear it appears of displeasing their other Brethren the Priests that differ from them in this and say they reject our Question but yet they say That in Baptizing Repentance and remission of sins is Preached and witnessed as in his name for them and through it unto them as appears by comparing Mat. 28. 19. with Luke 24. 47 48. and Acts 13. To which I say in this have you wrested these Scriptures for they will not serve your ends as you would have them Repentance and remission of sins was not Preached by Christs Ministers to infants through Sprinckling them what do you repent for them Or promise that they shall repent And are you sure that they will prove believers that sprinckle them as the seed of believers in your account and how do you know that other Peoples Children whom you have refused to sprinckle are not as well the seed of believers as those whom you sprinckle and yet for that Popish practise you have no rule in the Scriptures of truth You say in P. 155. That we must needs reject and deride imputed Righteousness viz. mens being the Righteousness of God in him in an answerable sense as he was made sin for us Reply Herein you bely us for we neither reject nor deride the imputed Righteousness we being in the faith wherein it is revealed in us and imputed to us to our sanctification whereby we are become the Righteousness of God in Christ 2. Christ was made sin for us who knew no sin 2 Cor. 5. 21. neither was there any sin in him so that if mens being the righteousness of God in him be in an answerable sense as Christ was made sin as you imagin say then God must account them his Righteousness when they know none of his