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A41272 The creed-forgers detected in reply to a pamphlet falsely called the Quakers-creed, containing twelve articles / published by some, who have not joyned with Geo. Keith in his pride and contradiction, but testifie against both him, and them that joyn with him therein. Field, John, 1652-1723. 1700 (1700) Wing F862; ESTC R28417 17,502 18

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that which Died was his Body i. e. Christ dwelt Eminently in him But that Body saith W. Penn is in no Man Ergo that can't be the Christ in his sense which is incapable to dwell in Men. If this be an Error and the contrary Truth then these Creed-Makers hold that which died was his Godhead not his Body i. e. in which Christ Eminently Dwelt But surely they do not consider what their Tutor G. K. saith Serious Appeal p. 27. He saith Christ cannot as to himself properly and strictly in a literal sense be killed or crucisied in Men Mind that then the Body that Suffered and Died by G. K's Account was not properly the Son of God nor crucified in Men. Neither do the Quakers hold that Body that Suffered for all Men is in all Men For the Body as G. K. saith in the same page that Christ was to Suffer in as a Sacrifice for the Sins of the World Note Here is that Body of Christ distinguished by G. K. behoved to be a Clean and Holy Body as it was a Lamb without Spot and the Death behoved to be a real Death Which could not be of the Godhead and it would be Blasphemy to affirm The Godhead died and Ignorance to assert That Body that died is in all Men but it 's sound Doctrine to assert and Preach That Christ who is properly and not Figuratively called Light as G. K. affirms Augustine said Is the true Light which lighteth every Man that cometh into the World John 1.9 and so is in all Men And which Light Word or Spirit within G. K. saith as quoted in his Book of Retractations p. 21 22. It hath pleased the Lord to send his Son into the World both in the Outward and Inward in a weak and low Appearance that he might shew forth the more abundant Glory in that which was so low and weak in Appearance to prevail over the greatest Power that stood in his way for thus doth the Seed of the Woman bruise the Serpent's Head And this will bring People naturally to own the Scriptures and things therein declared to own Moses and the Prophets to own the Dispensation of God to the Jews in that day and to own Christ in the Flesh his miraculous Death his Doctrine Miracles Suffering Death Resurrection and Ascension together with the wonderful End and Design of God therein c. And this Method I well Approve of still saith G. K. And so do the Quakers and are firm in this Faith altho' weak in Appearance and despised of Men that He in whom they have believed Christ the Light that many hate because their Deeds are Evil shall prevail over the greatest Power that stands in the way and that God will tread Satan down and make him like Ashes under the Soles of their Feet who love and live in Him against whom and those that are built upon him all the Powers of Hell nor the Rage and Enmity of Apostates shall never be able to prevail against them For he that sitteth in the Heavens shall laugh the Lord shall have them in derision and Christ whom God hath set upon his holy Hill shall break them with a Rod of Iron and shall dash them to pieces like a Potter's Vessel SECT VII The Resurrection of the Body denied c. Urged for Proof as followeth I do utterly deny W. Penn's Invalidity of J. Faldo's vindication p. 369 370. that this Text 1 Cor. 15.44 is concerned in the Resurrection of Man's Carnal Body at all But the Two States of Men under the first and second Adam Men are sown into the World Natural but they are raised Spiritually through Him who is the Resurrection and the Life and so they are the Sons of the Second Adam Will these Creed-Forgers say They do own that this Text is altogether concerned in the Resurrection of Man's Carnal Body and not in the Two States of Men under the First and Second Adam and that they are not raised Spiritually through Him who is the Resurrection and the Life and that they are not so the Sons of the Second Adam If they do will this be good Doctrine Read what G. K. saith on this Head Because we own an Inward Quickning Serious Appeal p. 52. and being Raised with Christ in our Souls and Inward Man that therefore we deny any future Resurrection of the Body after Death which we deny not but affirm against Ranters and vain Notionists And as for his Citing W. Penn's Words arguing against that same Numerical Body P. 9. its Rising at the Resurrection it is clear that he understandeth the same exact Number of small Particles or Dusts neither more nor less than what is commonly Buried and what hurt is there in that And we affirm as our Friends often have that we believe there will be a Resurrection both of the Just and Unjust and if any Man now shall say How are the Dead raised and with what Body do they come We answer as Paul did ● Cor. 15.39 36 37 38. Thou Fool that which thou sowest is not quickened except it dye And that which thou sowest thou sowest not that Body that shall be but bear Grain it may chance of Wheat or some other Grain But God giveth it a Body as it pleaseth him to every Seed it s own Body And it 's false to say as these Folks do in p. 13. 14. That we mean other things and maliciously to compare us to the Papists And its wrong to suggest that if what we say is true then Christ did not dye for we firmly believe Christ dyed according to the Scriptures and that he died for our Sins and yet we are not afraid to assert That the Life of the Word that was in the beginning with God and was God which Life is the Light of Men dyed not And yet we sincerely believe Christ bare our Sins in his own Body on the Tree of the Cross and Shed his Blood even the same Christ that was born of the Virgin Mary and was Crucified Dead and Buried and Raised again and is ascended into Heaven and ever liveth to make Intercession for us and therefore in Contradiction to these Errers and Strayers from the Lords Way we affirm That he we Own profess and Believe in is the Christ of God to whom one day they all must be accountable and receive a Reward according to their Works SECT VIII Jesus of Nazareth denyed to be the Son of God For Proof they quote viz. The Light within sufficient to Salvation without any thing else G. Whitehead's Antidoe p. 28 viz. Without the Man Christ Jesus and Faith in him If what G. Whitehead hath asserted be a Truth then we may bid adieu to Jesus of Nazareth Answ This is is a piece of Forgery for what 's pretended as above to be in G. W's Antidote is not there to be found as quoted but by search we find G. W. there writes viz. s seeing G. K.
Offices and Works of those Three and this being granted by us in the sincerity of our Hearts we are excused and cleared And that we always did hold as above altho' falsly charged with Error is well known to them that well know us and notwithstanding these Persons pretend this for one of their Reasons for leaving us it 's Base as well as Foolish and very Idle for any to pretend to leave a People or Society for that which they never held and to alledge for Proof what was writ against those that did falsly accuse us many Years since in those things And the Orthodox antiently did not agree about these School-Terms which were invented since the Apostles days ibid. P. 4. to guard against the Arrian Sebellian and other Heresies and we are altogether free of them and detest them from our very Souls no sober Christian will therefore Judge uncharitably of us in that respect For what W. Penn argueth as concerning Three Persons he only argueth against the invented Names Persons as G. K. affirms Serious Appeal p. 10. if he may be believed by these New Creed-Makers and also that Persons in all proper Languages doth signifie Substances and not meer Properties or Relative Attributes which W. P will not deny to be in God SECT II. P. 9. The Blood of Christ outwardly Shed undervalued by some Quakers p. 10. Proof as Quoted The Sheding of that Blood Out of G. W's Ligot Life p. 64. let out by the Spear was an act of a wicked Man and the Spear an Instrument of Cruelty which to lay the meritorious Cause or Stress of Justification upon it 's false Doctrine says George Whitehead This is another pretended Antichristian Error against the very Foundation of the Christian Religion and one of the particular Reasons as they call it for which these Persons leave the Quakers Now if this be so the contrary sure must be Christian and Orthodox with them let 's therefore hear it and it will be as followeth The Sheding of that Blood let out by the Spear was not an act of a wicked Man and the Spear was not an Instrument of Cruelty which act to lay the meritorious Cause or Stress of Justification upon is not false Doctrine Will these new Creed makers say so But we who are so greatly Abused Rom. 8.24 25. 5.1 9. and foully Represented by our Adversaries Believe in him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the Dead who was delivered for our Offences and raised again for our Justification and therefore being Justified by Faith we have Peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ who dyed for us Being now Justified by his Blood we shall be saved from Wrath through him For if when we were Enemies we were reconciled to God by the Death of his Son much more being reconciled we shall be saved by his Life And if any would suggest from this Retortion of G. W. upon his Antagonist's words That the Quakers slight or undervalue the Blood of Christ that was Shed without the Gates of Jerusalem about 1700 Years since they grosly Abuse them and evilly Intreat them for as before we in Sincerity declare and in Humility and with true Thankfulness Bless God we have Peace with him through our Lord Jesus Christ who we firmly believe died for us and being now justified by his Blood we shall be saved from Wrath. And as G. K. saith It is only the true Believer who hath Faith in Christ Jesus whom God Justifieth so it is only he that is truly Sanctified Presb Ind. c. p. 122. and Regenerated and Born again of the Spirit of God whom God doth Justifie And it 's a true Figure of false Christians as G. K. saith p. 130. Ibid. who would have Christ divided and say They believe in Christ without them but do not believe and Receive Christ within them as God the Father doth Reveal him Nor saith G. Keith Serious Appeal p. 50. doth Edward Burroughs and William Penn if their words be duly construed contradict what I have affirmed But that Men are justified by Christ's Righteousness as the requisite Condition and Terms in order to that Imputation and that David lying in his Sins of Adultery and Murder remained justified we deny And let these New Creed-Makers prove that any owned by the Quakers or in Unity with them undervalue the Blood of Christ outwardly Shed for what they Cite out of G. W. doth not prove it SECT III. That God and Christ is in Heaven is denyed by some Quakers And the Proof brought by them is viz. But that the Outward Person which suffered Serious Apology by W. Penn. p. 146. was properly the Son of God we utterly deny This they pretend is against the Foundation of Christian Religion and as a proof of the Quakers Errors and Antichristian Principles which G. K. and others have endeavoured to render with as ugly a face as they can put on it Let us again try this backward and assert the contrary since it 's urged by them that are gone back and examine them a little on it That the outward Person that suffered was properly the Son of God we sincerely own Do you own this and condemn W. P. and some Quakers and leave all the Quakers for this and your other Reasons And do you know and believe that outward Person or Body only that suffered Death on the Cross which the Soldier pierced with the Spear was from all Eternity or of an eternal Generation and that That outward Person or Body only was Glorified with the Father before the World was as the Son of God who was before that Body that Suffered on the Cross Consider these things And whether these things do not proceed from a Spirit of Prejudice and Envy Serious Appeal p. 6. 15 to render us no Christians as G. K. said to C. Mather so far is he and we may say are you from that Candor of giving a favourable Construction upon W. P's Words that you shew more Inclination to Clamour and Reproach than Inform or Convince Come hear G. K. in this Case Because he C. M. cannot fix his false Charge upon me of denying Christ p. 25. Ibid. he essayeth but with as ill Success to fix it upon my Brethren as dear Isaac Pennington whom I well know to be a true Believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and a sincere Lover of him even the Crucified Jesus and whose Soul I believe is in Rest with Christ in Heavenly Glory And as to his words We can never call the bodily Garment Christ but that which appeared and dwelt in the Body it is easie to put a fair and charitable Construction on it as well as on Christ's words when he said ☞ He that hath seen me hath seen my Father and yet many saw Christ's Body of Flesh that never saw the Father But to clear the thing J. P. speaketh this in Opposition to Socinians and did