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A53891 A dissertation concerning the pre-existency of souls wherein the state of the question is briefly unfolded, and divers arguments and objections on both sides alledged and answered : and a free judgment concerning the summ of the controversie allowed to every one / being originally written in the Latine tongue, several years since by the learned C.P. ; and now made English by D.F. [and] D.P. upon the recommendation of F.M.H., their friend. C.P.; D. F.; D. P. 1684 (1684) Wing P10; ESTC R5799 19,339 146

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c. The minor is proved from Psalm 39.12 1 Peter 2.11 CHAP. IV. Containing Arguments drawn from Holy Scripture to prove the Praeexistency of the Soul of the Messiah IF Christ's Soul did praeexist then did all Souls praeexist But the first is true as presently shall be taught from Holy Scripture Therefore c. the major is proved because Christ is in all things like unto us sin excepted Now by and in the Reason of all Souls there is the same manner of duration The minor is proved 1. Because Christ hath long since often appeared to the Patriarchs He often conversed with Moses He delivered the Children of Israel out of Aegypt He accompanied them in the Wilderness and led them into the Land of Canaan c. witness besides innumerable places in the Old Testament that of Paul 1 Cor. 10.4 and that of John 1.11 2. Because he himself testifieth that he had a glory with his Father before the World was made Joh. 17.5 But this was not the Glory of his divine nature because that was in its own nature immutable Therefore it was the glory of his Soul which already did praeexist 3. Moreover He himself testifieth thus I came but from the Father and am come into the World Again I leave the World and return unto the Father As in John 16.28 4. John 3.13 No man ascendeth into Heaven but he who descended from Heaven the Son of Man c. 5. John the Baptist testifieth of him That he came from above John 3.31 6. Again Christ himself saith Joh. 6.32 My Father giveth unto you the true bread from Heaven for he is the true bread of God who descended from Heaven 7. Vers 38. I descended from Heaven 8. The living Father hath sent me This is the bread which descended from Heaven Joh. 6.57.58 compare herewith vers 41. 51. 9. 1. Cor. 15.47 10. Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus Who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God but made himself of no reputation and took upon him the form of a Servant and was made in the likeness of man c. They are the words of Paul Phil. 2.5 6 7. All which together with the foregoing words can by no means be understood of the Divine Nature of Christ which can neither be varied nor moved from place to place by reason of his divine Excellency and Omnipresence which is essential to him and by consequence they must necessarily be meant of the Soul of Christ which praeexisted long before its earthly body from whence a most certain argument may be framed That the Souls of all other men did praeexist 11. Compare herewith Heb. 1.6 The Father bringeth in the first begotten into the World Which is to be understood according to his humanity 12. 1 John 3.5.8 He who is manifested or appeareth he doth not then begin to be in being CHAP. V. Containing Arguments taken from humane Authority yet are such as in their kind are Sacred 1. LEt the Apostles of our Lord be here produced even when they were not as yet illuminated who were addicted to this opinion and yet were not corrected by our Lord as is manifest 1. in that that they asked him concerning him who was born blind Joh. 9.2 2. In that that they said that some thought that he was John the Baptist others Elias others Jeremias or one of the Prophets as in Matth. 16.14 Which assertion cannot stand unless upon the foundation of Praeexistency nor yet was it corrected by our Lord as without all doubt had it contained in it any thing that was erroneous it would have been by him who was the most holy and the most benign Master or Teacher 3. In that that when our Lord said That he came out from the Father they presently answered Behold now speakest thou plainly and speakest no proverb Joh. 16.29 2. Let Clement of Alexandria come forth next who often in his writings makes mention of this opinion nor ever once redargueth it as erroneous For in his Stromat 1. He thus saith It is manifest that the Barbarians did especially honour their Lawgivers and Lords calling them Gods for they thought together with Plato that some good Souls having left their supercelestial abode did make a descent into this inferiour Orb and having assumed bodies became partakers of all those miseries which are obvious in Generation and became sollicitously careful of mankind to whom they gave Laws and taught Philosophy And then in his 3. Book he saith when he disputeth against the Marcionites and alledges many places out of Plato which do partly directly and partly indirectly include this opinion amongst which is that out of his Phaedo viz. That there is a Secret brought down to us by Tradition that we men are in this life as it were in a Prison So also is that other where he citeth Heraclitus also Pythagoras and Socrates together with Plato That Death is but what we see when up and awake but what we see in sleep is a Dream But most agreeable of all is what he quoteth out of Philolaus the Pythagorean The Ancient Divines and Poets do testifie that the Soul is conjoyned to this earthly body by way of a punishment and that she is all the while she remaineth therein as it were buried But against this he saith nothing In the same Book although he mightily sets himself against Julius Cassian yet he useth these words This Noble wit is of an opinion which accordeth more with the mind of Plato viz. that the Soul which is divine and from above bei●● effeminated with lust doth descend into Generation and Corruption Yea in his Protrept he expresly saith That Christ did again call back into Heaven those who were thrown down upon and to the Earth 3. Let Origen follow next who more openly did propagate this opinion so as there is no need to give any Quotations out of him 4. Moreover Synesius Bishop of Cyrenia who in his 105. Epistle saith expresly In good truth I shall never design to be of the opinion that the Soul in its existence comes after the Body And in his 3● Hymn As a drop from Heaven I was poure● forth on the earth Restore me to my spring whence I flowed in this banisht wandring birth 5. To these joyn Arnobius who in his 1. Book against the Gentiles saith thus Do we not all owe unto God this in the first place That we are That we are called men That being either sent from him or fallen thorough blindness we are detained in the chains of a Body 6. Prudentius appears next who in his Hymn at the funeral Solemnities of the deceased singeth after this manner See now how to the faithful is made plain The bright path of the ample Paradise again And man may freely now approach that grove Which the sly Serpent took from him above There O thou best of Guides I humbly pray Command that thy Servant-maid this Mind