Selected quad for the lemma: death_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
death_n	body_n	soul_n	very_a	5,362	5	5.6127	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A15420	A retection, or discouerie of a false detection containing a true defence of two bookes, intituled, Synopsis papismi, and Tetrastylon papisticum, together with the author of them, against diuers pretended vntruths, contradictions, falsification of authors, corruptions of Scripture, obiected against the said bookes in a certaine libell lately published. Wherein the vniust accusations of the libeller, his sophisticall cauils, and vncharitable slaunders are displayed.	Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621.	1603 (1603)	STC 25694; ESTC S114436	136,184	296

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the_o same_o instant_n of_o christ_n death_n the_o soul_n of_o the_o saint_n be_v beatificatae_fw-la make_v bless_v in_o 3._o distin_a 22._o quaest_n 3._o and_o if_o the_o same_o day_n of_o christ_n death_n their_o soul_n be_v in_o paradise_n according_a to_o origens_n opinion_n i_o pray_v you_o what_o time_n have_v christ_n soul_n to_o be_v in_o hell_n but_o only_o by_o the_o virtue_n and_o power_n thereof_o which_o must_v be_v origens_n meaning_n unless_o you_o will_v say_v that_o christ_n soul_n be_v in_o heaven_n and_o hell_n in_o two_o place_n at_o once_o which_o shift_n bellarmine_n be_v drive_v unto_o say_v it_o be_v not_o impossible_a unto_o god_n to_o make_v christ_n soul_n to_o be_v in_o two_o place_n at_o once_o libr._n 4._o the_o christ._n anim_fw-la cap._n 15._o all_o thing_n be_v possible_a we_o grant_v unto_o god_n but_o where_o have_v he_o any_o warrant_v out_o of_o scripture_n of_o this_o his_o presumption_n 2._o and_o that_o origen_n mean_v not_o that_o christ_n do_v 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animae_fw-la autem_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la in_o region_fw-la vivorum_fw-la the_o prophet_n depart_v out_o of_o this_o life_n their_o body_n be_v in_o the_o grave_n but_o their_o soul_n and_o spirit_n in_o the_o region_n of_o the_o live_n again_o tract_n 30._o in_o matth._n upon_o these_o word_n they_o shall_v gather_v the_o elect_a from_o the_o end_n of_o heaven_n he_o thus_o say_v electi_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la illi_fw-la qui_fw-la ex_fw-la adventu_fw-la christi_fw-la sunt_fw-la sancti_fw-la sicut_fw-la quidam_fw-la magistri_fw-la haerese●s_fw-la dicunt_fw-la sed_fw-la omnes_fw-la qui_fw-la à_fw-la constitutione_n mundi_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la qui_fw-la viderunt_fw-la sicut_fw-la abraham_n christi_fw-la diem_fw-la they_o only_o be_v not_o the_o elect_a which_o be_v the_o saint_n since_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n as_o some_o master_n of_o heresy_n say_v but_o all_o they_o which_o from_o the_o beginning_n of_o the_o world_n see_v the_o day_n of_o christ_n as_o abraham_n do_v if_o 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